Create a New Forum Admin Login Member Login Contribute to Voyager Search VoyForums Help Desk VoyForums Exchange VoyForums Directory/Categories VoyForums Homepage VoyForums News FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, [9] ]

Subject: Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest? Author: Priests have set good examples [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2006, 02:50:45pm In reply to: Observer 's message, "Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest?" on Fri, Dec 29 2006, 07:00:54am Observer, your argument is also shallow. So far those so called "born again" leaders have fallen into the greed of missuse. Others ended up in prision. The priests who have contributed alot are noted: The late Fr. Robert Lak had been accussed for what was not true, later it was told that the woman (named) mentioned that it was framed. He was asked to take a ministerial post, he refused to be with his people. Sir Ignatius Kilage, a priest had done well, after being the governor general. The Late Lui Ambane had nothing left in his personal account. Mind you, the vehicle he used was the red suzuki given to him by the bishop when he was serving as priest, was the ONLY VEHICLE parked under his house when he passed away. The priests and other concern people revealed that he had no major deposits into his personal account, only his salary. It has been told by many that, he was in Simbu, rather then in POM. Checubim led well and went back to priesthood. He set a path that other leaders ought to follow Give the priest who may be intending a chance and see what he can do. Ordinary people in the villages of Enga whose rights and services have been deprived for so long, need a change. They also have expressed sentiments as mentioned here, true enough, Enga has only few priest, but of the few that we have, if one can make a difference for the people of Enga, why not he. We learn from mistakes, at the same time, we can excel. I still believe that the so called priest who wants to contest might make a difference. HE MAY HAVE SMELLED SOMETHING STINGY and wants to clear up the mass if it might be God's will. God uses people to change people. Only God rights straight in crooked lines. I for one am for him and yes, I will campaign for him, no matter what educated fools would give agruments, based on personal reflections rather then ordinary people's opinion. Educated fools have neglected the people, only a shephard's heart would care for his flock, so as the priest of Enga. I speak the heart of the neglected Christians of Enga. Propriest [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest? Author: Want Change [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Jan 02 2007, 04:36:39am Well said kaim. Full support [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest? Author: Keman (Keman for Kanda) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wed, Jan 03 2007, 11:45:22am Propriest and Want Change. I am for you. Fr. Paul Kanda is said to be gaining popularity for the coming election. We the bush people of keman are for him. Nanenap karapengen, maipenge. Kemana [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest? Author: Engan Lege [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Jan 06 2007, 04:01:20am Fellow Engans, Whether be a priest or not, is not the issue. What Enga needs now is a leader to provide that leadership to bring all Engans together and with Great Honesty in his/her Heart. Engan Lege. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Enga Candidates: A Priest? Author: Want Change (PRIEST POPULAR) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Jan 09 2007, 02:22:06pm Engan Critics! Enga needs a leader to provide that leadership all Engans want. Enga has many good politicians, but they are not with the people. They are used to city lights and lived so long without KNOWING THEIR PEOPLE. When election time comes, they pop out from their hiding places to show themselves. People, especially like the priests have lived with the people and they know their social as well as spiritual needs. They know their people better then the so call candidates who comes in "sheep" clothes to lure people's hearts away and return back to their hiding places. Wake up intelligents of Enga. Why do we have to make the same mistake again and again? Why can't we all stand up for this man who LIVES WITH HIS PEOPLE, STAYS WITH HIS PEOPLE AND is willing to serve his people at the political arena? I agree that Enga has few priests and numerous people who can do better then he? But the question is: DO THEY REALLY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND EVERY SINGLE SOULS OF THE PEOPLE AS THE PRIESTS DO? The numerous hours spent at confessions, listening to people's soul seeking problems and giving them alternatives to live? Do these so called intending candidates have the desire to visit a single soul in the remotest areas during sick call? Not everyone would do that then a priest. Not everyone would be able to wake up at the middle of night at 3 to attend to a dying person for free as priests does. Educated Engans, the so call critics of this forum. I bet you guys mobilize yourselves and stand up for this man who KNOWS the needs of his people and wants to give a try. If he doesn't of course, there will always be a time to get him out. If this is his opportunity, then why not he? Even the current governor was heard saying: "Akali yangi okara yakulu lo pimaiyapon, akali pasere mende karelyamo lelyeminon, ongak iki pimairolen". This shows that he is already psychologically beaten, though he may make a lot of noise trying to gain the popularity of his political party. Alas! He is going down this time, so as the party. He had been paying journalists to get his story and features covered in the papers. He secretly gives money to certain group of people and gets it back in the form of "donation". He is fooling people through the papers. This man is cunning. Engan Intellects who truely care for Enga for a man who has the integrity of the heart FOR THE PEOPLE. At his moment I can think of none other then this priest. Put aside your critics, religous thoughts about responsibilities a priest play. For God's sake HE IS A SON OF ENGA and the citizen of the country. Enough of nepotism and "Action Governor Fan Club" that deteriorates the interest of Enga. I know this priest WILL volunteerly beg the engan intellects near and far to work collectively for enga. I bet, engan intellects. You won't go to him, HE WILL COME TO KNOCK AT YOUR DOOR asking for your much learned knowledge to be contribute to and for Enga. Why not we give him this opportunity. Over to you, intellects! Want Change [ Post a Reply to This Message ]