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DRAFT GORE 2004: MEET UP INFORMATION -- DRAFT GORE, 11:19:02 08/30/03 Sat
should you know of anyone interested in the following please forward the info.......
--Gore 2004 Meetup: http://gore2004.meetup.com/
-WHAT
Meetup with other local Gore supporters to talk about
his prospects for the 2004 presidential race.
-WHO
Gore Supporters Worldwide.
-WHEN
1st Monday of every month.
(for more info see below)
--DRAFT GORE: http://www.draftgore.com/
--Al Gore Support Center: http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/
-MAINE VOICES: RAYMOND J. BLAIR
It's time: Democrats, turn to Gore
http://www.pressherald.com/viewpoin...draftgore.shtml
-‘Draft Gore’ efforts step up across state
PORTSMOUTH - The field of potential Democratic
nominees could increase by one shortly.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/.../news/43747.htm
***NOTE ON MEET UP:
The ABC plan:
If you're not a member in the Gore Meetup, please sign up: http://gore2004.meetup.com and follow the simple instructions. If you want details before signing or if you want to volunteer, please read on.
The Draft Gore movement has now begun a Gore Meetup membership drive. What is Meetup.com? A place on the Internet where people get to meet other people who share their interest. But signing up is not a commitment. By signing up you are under no obligation whatsoever. Once you sign up you will automatically be contacted each month by email about the monthly meeting.
If you don’t want to attend, simply ignore the email message.
Who should sign up for the Gore Meetup?
1) any current Gore booster;
2) anybody who would support Gore if he entered the race (especially people who are supporting other candidates right now);
3) anybody willing to support him if he gets the nomination;
4) anybody who wants to disempower the DNC, DLC and the money boys;
5) anybody who wants a pure populist candidate;
6) anybody who is an ABBA voter (Anybody But Bush Again!); or
7) any reason not listed.
**Please note that you do not have to be an American to sign up. Europeans and everyone else are encouraged to sign up. You must be 14 years old and you must have a valid email address.
“OK, how do I sign up?”
WE REPEAT: If you're not a member in the Gore Meetup, please sign up:
http://gore2004.meetup.com and follow the simple instructions. If you have any technical problems, feel free to contact me at steverobinson@sunflower.com.
If you have now signed up and that is all you want to do, thank you! However,if you want to know why we back Al Gore, or want to understand the power of joining, or, if you want to volunteer, please read on at the following url; http://earth.he.net/cgi-bin/suid/~a...;num=1062233048
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Declaration of the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - VMRO-MNM! -- MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY, 11:38:56 05/31/03 Sat
Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization - Macedonia For The Macedonians (VMRO-MNM)
February 13, 2001
Declaration
The Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM (Macedonia for the Macedonians) is writing in its declaration about the violations and political discrimination of the Macedonian people and the Macedonian country.
Concerning the violations and the political discrimination executed by the organization of human rights – the UN. The organization VMRO-MNM has written and protested, and demanded an acknowledgement of Macedonia under its historical name, that the name FYROM and the non-Macedonian flag, the "fan", should be removed. This has not been done and our country is still, incorrectly, named FYROM.
At the Millennium conference, in the beginning of Sept. 2000, the UN wrote the "Millennium" declaration, a declaration of justice, solidarity and the rights of all people in the world. A very important issue they neglected to bring up and to do something Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet about, was the rights of people, living in exile and oppressed by the powers of the Western World and of the occupants. We, the Macedonian people, are still harassed in our own country, by the neighbouring occupants, the Western World and by corrupt Macedonians, anti Macedonians. Many Macedonians and Macedonian Organizations, from the Aegean part of Macedonia, the Pirin part of Macedonia, the Vardar Part of Macedonia and from all over the world, have written and told about Macedonia, about our nationality, culture, history and so on.
At this conference we did not retrieve our true Macedonian name, the name of our ancestors, the name of our country - Macedonia but still the false creation FYROM is used. Nor was our Macedonian flag, the symbol of Kutles returned, but instead the Macedonian people are supposed to be content with this discrimination and violation of our nation and to accept the non-Macedonian flag, the "fan". Our nation is the oldest in the world, still we Macedonians are being violated and offended. This is criminal, undemocratically, political discrimination by the United Nations.
The United Nations is supposed to be the world's greatest organization for Human Rights, not an organization, supporting "Albanian" terrorists and bandits on the Balkans. At the very beginning, when the terror organization, the UCK was formed in Tirana, the UN supported the organization and paid the terror soldiers their wages, equal to what a labourer makes in the Western World. The UN is a murder organization that organizes terror groups all over the world, and not only the UN but also other human rights organizations are devoted to the same actions.
What has been written in the declaration is the same as it was 50 years ago. Nothing has been done for the people living on this planet. People all over the world are suffering, people live in poverty and people are being murdered every other second because of the injustice of organizations that are supposed to help people. The people in power and responsible for this, live their lives in luxury. Children are being used as slave workers by rich bandits.
We, the Macedonian people, do not accept this and the UN do not exist to us since there is corruption, Mafia and bandits inside this organization and the things the UN is doing to Macedonia is criminal. We demand, for the last time, that the name FYROM be removed, together with the "fan", the non-Macedonian flag, that is hanging in New York.
I hope the UN will listen to the Macedonian nation this time.The European Union is also corrupt. This is a Mafia organization, containing bandits and criminals. The Macedonian organization has also written to them about the situation and told them to stop the violations and the political discrimination against the Macedonian people. We demand that the name FYROM be removed and that the true historical name, Macedonia, will be applied. The EU must also stop interfering in the internal affairs of Macedonia.
Visa requirement for Macedonians with Macedonian passports.
Macedonians with Macedonian citizenship are forced to have visas to the whole Western World and to many Eastern countries.
The Western World speaks about free movement for people, open borders and so on.This is not reality.The Macedonian people are harassed and discriminated politically. For us being able to visit relatives or friends, some Western countries demand both money and uncountable documents.
There are some countries that do not demand any money for the visa but the number of documents one has to produce are innumerable. Besides this, one must also be able to prove that one has a considerable sum of money in ones account.
If perhaps an old Macedonian couple would like to go to France to visit their children it is requested of them, besides the 100 DM mark each of them have to pay for the visas, that they have between 10,000 and 12,000 Francs in their saving accounts if they are to retain a visa. And then they also have to produce a number of papers just so they can visit their children.
Younger Macedonians must also produce a certificate of employment to prove that they are regularly employed in another country and not trying to sneak into France or any other Western Country for that matter!
I would like to ask the French Government about what kind of rules these are and why a person who seek visa must have such large amounts in his/her account. Most people in Macedonia do not have that kind of money in their accounts. Nor have the majority in the Western World such sums.
This way France stops Macedonians from visiting their relatives. Most western countries have similar systems to shut out the people they do not want. This system is undemocratic and dictatorial.
Another issue I want to bring up is about why the Macedonians that live in an EU country must have visa to visit another EU country. If one for example lives in Sweden and wants to go to Germany for perhaps a weekend trip one must have a visa.
I think that the EU countries ought to have the same rules for all the citizens in a country irrespective of their national belongings. If we have a residence permit in a country why do we then have to have a visa? The borders are "open" between the EU countries but not for us, for us they are closed, we are second-rate citizens. But the EU countries are making money on us, this is criminal.
I want to mention a non EU country where no visa is needed if one has a residence permit in a western country. This country is Switzerland. It is to some extent some kind of justice, however, Macedonian citizens living in Macedonia have no right to visit Switzerland without a visa; but it is more justice than what the EU countries are showing us.
The Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM demand from all Western and East countries that the visa restraint for all Macedonian citizens immediately is removed.
Unfortunately there are other issues, more discriminating than the above mentioned. Macedonians who live in Macedonia and try to obtain permission to enter other countries, experiences great difficulty because of the "Albanians" that the foreign embassies in Macedonia have employed. One man, for example, has tried to obtain a visa to Switzerland, to visit his relatives, for several months. He is regularly employed and has provided all the documents and guaranties needed. These papers have then been sent as a registered letter to the Swiss Embassy in Macedonia but he has not even received an answer. He has visited the Swiss Embassy several times to hand in his application, since papers coming into "Albanian" hands disappear, but he has still not received a reply. The "Albanians" are complaining about violations and that they have no rights when it is the Macedonian people that are without rights. "Albanians" work at the hospitals, the authorities, airports, in large companies - often in top positions etc while the Macedonians experience unemployment. And since Macedonians encounter problems when they seek a visa permit the people you see travelling abroad are mostly "Albanians", who never seem to have any problems with any visa restraints. We know what nation that is oppressed and it is not the "Albanian" but the Macedonian nation. It is not surprising that people in Macedonia are afraid and do not trust the anti-Macedonian authorities.
An Organization
One strange thing is that the EU countries have different regulations different principles. Since they are members of the same union they ought to have one program, one statute, the same law in all EU countries, but this is not the case. In the Former Scandinavian Province of Sweden for example, you have to pay tax on books, which is a very big income source for the state. No other EU country has this rule. I feel that this tax ought to be removed immediately if there are to be the same EU rules.
It is also time to stop the discrimination and harassment against the immigrants in the Western World. An immigrant have no longer any rights. Their children are being persecuted in school. Immigrants are violated and discriminated, at the employment office, the unions, the labour market, the banks. Immigrants can no longer borrow money to start their own business because of their origin.
In Denmark they want to forbid home-language instructions in the schools. Immigrants are being discriminated and violated. As many as 40% of the immigrants want to leave the country too seek a better, more normal life. This concerns not only Denmark but whole of the Western World. In my opinion 95% of the Western World is Racist, Fascist and Nazi. Their politicians write beautiful speeches and talk much but do not fulfil their promises. Secretly and in silence they are doing the opposite. And if an immigrant is to complain he is met with negative answers.Nato, this nazi fascist and barbaric terror organization has occupied the country of Macedonia since the end of 1998 with its army troops of criminals and drug addicts. We have previously demanded that Nato must leave Macedonia and also pay compensation for everything that has been destroyed by Nato, for example roads, land and nature. For some time the soldiers have provoked and conducted criminal actions in Macedonia. They have armed the balisti, the "Albanians" from Caucasus so they can commence war and build their "Great-Albania". Macedonian soldiers have been kidnapped by the "Albanian" balisti to be used as trade for "Albanian" terrorists and Mafia bandits imprisoned in Macedonia. Numerous of Macedonian soldiers have been murdered by the "Albanian" fascists and Macedonian officers have been exposed to attacks and murdered.
In our country we do not accept drug addicts and alcoholics who takes advantage of our little girls, our little children. The Nazis and Fascists did the same under the Second World War as the Nato soldiers are doing now.
Nato has not come to Macedonia to keep the peace, but, as occupant, to steal the riches of Macedonia. Nato act as archaeologist and with its soldiers digging day and night to find and steal ancient Macedonian artefacts, gold and silver. And when they find the riches of Macedonia they have not time to dig them up but instead they use explosives. Then they arrive to the crime scene with their large machines, camouflaging the place, believing that no one will see them. This exploitation of a country is criminal.
How much the Western World has stolen from Macedonia we do not know yet, but I would guess that the sum exceeds hundreds of thousands billion dollars. The Macedonian people are living in poverty in their own country while the Western Worlds fascists and nazis are exploiting Macedonia. It is like taking the bread out of the child's mouth, Macedonia is a small country compared to "mighty" Europe.
I, as president of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM, am optimistic, than one day you will return everything that you have stolen from us. The organization VMRO-MNM is giving Nato its last ultimatum, to leave Macedonian territory within thirty days.
In my previous letters to the Nato barbarians I wrote about the lethal weapons they have used in Serbia and other parts of the world. These criminal elements have poisoned the entire nature of the Balkans. Also Macedonia was hit under this so called "war" by hundreds of projectiles. Projectiles, that "missed" their aims in Serbia and in the province of Serbia, Kosovo-Metohija, and instead hit Macedonian territory. And Nato aircraft that could not land in the Adriatic Sea with their bombs emptied their deadly cargo over Macedonia. And the tracks were swiftly covered up by the Nato terrorists. The bombs were removed, the ground was covered with soil and grass. No Macedonian police, soldiers or journalists were allowed to pass on to the places of impact. But the poison that was spread in nature could not be covered up.
Eventually it has been revealed in the Media, what we already previously knew about the Western World's interference in other countries and their bombings with toxic material. The war in Iraq and the bomb attacks against Serbia, now finally the world reacts and criticise the Nato barbarians and terrorists, now when several people have died in diseases related to these attacks.
One should not only think about the soldiers. On the Balkans there are over 50 million people. How many of them who have become sick because of these chemical weapons no one knows yet.
The people involved in these bombings must be convicted of war crimes in The Hague:
Bill Clinton (Hitler II)
Madeline Albright
General Wesley K Clark
Richard Holbrooke
Tony Blair
Robin Cooke
Marti Ahtisaari
Javier Solana
Nato member states' governments
The government of Tirana
Gerhard Schröder
Joseph Fischer
Jacques Chirac
Göran Persson
Anna Lindh
Carl Bildt
United Nation Secretary
General Koffi Annan
The government of "Bulgaria"
The anti Macedonian government
The Governments of the Western World.
the Western World's authorities help the "Albanian" balists from Caucasus by letting them demonstrate and protest in the west about demands of Human Rights in Macedonia. Rights they already have but the Macedonian people lack.
So the "Albanians" demonstrations and protests are not about obtaining Human Rights but about provoking and frightening the Macedonian Nation. This has been going on for a very long time and the Macedonian people in the Western World feel provoked and threatened.
Several Macedonians have written to the anti-Macedonian Government to acquire an end to this. They have asked the government to urge the governments of the Western World to end and forbid such demonstrations.
But the anti-Macedonian Government is not on the side of the Macedonian people. It is a Mafia organization, consisting of terrorists, bandits, agents and spies. They who sit in the "government" and "parliament and also in political organizations are corrupt and sell themselves for western currency. Of course there are honourable Macedonian politicians but they have no power. They are tortured, imprisoned, murdered or forced to leave their native country.
It is therefore impossible that such a Government would demand that the Western World should stop and forbid these provocations that the "Albanian" balists carry out, organized by the Western World's Mafia organizations.
The groups that demonstrates are terrorists and bandits. Therefore I do not believe that the west will stop such demonstrations.
I, as president of the Organization VMRO-MNM have promised the Macedonian people that I will demand from all countries where there is "Albanian" balists, terrorists and Mafia that they immediately stop these demonstrations.
This declaration will be sent out to all the countries in the world and with this I demand that these provocative demonstrations, carried out by "Albanian" balists, immediately are stopped.
The Human Rights Organizations and Institutes in the world.
All those organizations that are called Human Rights Organizations have been created by the Western World, for the criminal bureaucrats and bandits, for the Rich that want more and are never satisfied.
The most dangerous of these are the UN, EU, NATO, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Helsinki Committee, UNICEF, USSC and the Red Cross. They are like Mafia Organizations, there to make money and to provoke outside the borders of the Western World. Bandits who sell weapons and create disturbances and war, who murder people.
My demand from these organizations is that they stop their blackmail, threats and murders on people around the world. People, who are truly intelligent, who will do good for the people in the world, whose first and only concern is not about money and who do not want to have anything to do with the corruption of the Western World.
The rich Capitalists of the Western World, with their money, behave as the "leaders" of the world. They believe they can do what they desire, bribe people or pay assassins to harass and terrorize good, honest people, people who want to work as good politicians, as good leaders in their own countries. But they are not given any chance by the bureaucrats and the Rich of the Western World who threaten their families or, eventually, murder them.
The politicians of the Western World criticise other countries outside the borders of the west about there being many corrupt politicians and so on. The truth is, that the corruption in the Western World is a gigantic Industry. The rich west bureaucrats and bandits ought to give the poor people the opportunity to prosper. Instead they take advantage of them, build hazardous fabrics in their countries and use their children as slave workers. These poor families, whose clever and intelligent children could do a lot of good in the world, are denied the right to adequate education.
Little girls and boys are kidnapped and brought to the brothels of the Western World. These little children are abused by paedophiles. Who are they? They are the ones sitting in Brussels, Strasbourg, the EU bureaucrats, the NATO barbarians. It is they who organize such organizations paid by the EU parliament. Stop the kidnappings executed by your Mafia organizations
Such bandits, who drains the blood out of children, are vampires. Large Western World companies, for example McDonalds and many other companies, ought to be ashamed using little children to make a profit. But they can not be ashamed since they have no feelings, they are murderers, vampires. And regarding the large medical companies. Inferior medicine are sent to poor countries while medicine of good quality are sent to the rich bureaucrats. Poor people can not pay for expensive medicine, only for the cheap, inferior ones, but such medicine is ineffective.This destructive system must change. This is murder!
There are innumerable of funds in the world that are supposed to look to the best for man kind. But the only obligation they seam to have is to make the rich richer so they can continue with their lives in luxury. For example the children's cancer fund and the lung fund receive large contributions from the public but only 2% of it is used to help the sick
Who is it then, who contributes to these funds? Well, ordinary people, adults but also children who ask their parents for money to certain collections that are being done in the schools.The only thing they are being, is cheated while the rich "democratic" bandits and politicians with their high salaries do not give away a single penny.
Speaking of crime and fraud I want to mention the human rights organization Amnesty International. Last year it came out that their criminal chairman in Stockholm had made a fortune on various funds. This man, Jesus Alcalá, lives in a luxurious house and drives around in a car worth around 100 000 DM. And his son has nothing to complain of.
Such criminal people and "human rights organizations" who are guilty of the death of millions of people, are not to be trusted, they are to be removed.They are not to be respected by the society of the world. This is not what the people should trust and invest in.
The neighbouring occupants of Macedonian territory:The Athenians – the Asian race that since 1830 is named "Greeks", (under Aleksandar Makedonski the Great’s empire Athens was known as the Asian province) occupying the Aegean part of Macedonia.The former Turkish gypsies that today are known as Bulgarians, occupying the Pirin part of Macedonia
The balisti, "Albanians" from Caucasus, occupying the Western part of Macedonia, Mala Prespa.
The Serbian vrhovisti, occupying a part of Northern Macedonia.
They are given by the Macedonian National organization VMRO-MNM a last chance to return Macedonian occupied territory.
The Vatican, the Egyptian government and Turkey has received demands from the Macedonian organization VMRO-MNM to return everything that once was stolen from the Macedonian people and the country of Macedonia.The Western World must accept the truth about the Macedonian history and the Macedonian nation. It is time for all museums, galleries, historical institutes’ etc., to return everything that has been stolen from us and to let the truth be revealed. The stolen Macedonian paintings, archaeological findings, statues of great Macedonian men and women, the stolen names of our kings and ancestors, our goods, the Macedonian classical antiquity and the truth about Macedonian literature, history, philosophy, poetry etc. This must be returned to the Macedonian people and the country of Macedonia. What belongs to us must be returned to us, immediately.The organization VMRO-MNM is again asking the students of the world to stop reading false history, literature and poetry and instead accept the truth. Do not let so called professors, historians, scientists and politicians, writers and journalists plunder the Macedonian people and the country of Macedonia and give it to the Athenians and the Bulgarians.
Message for the Macedonian Nation
I urge all Macedonians, wherever they live in the world, to boycott the trade of goods from Athens (Made in "Greece"), from the Asian Tatari (Made in "Bulgaria"), the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Slovenia (Made in "Slovenia") and the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Croatia (Made in "Croatia").
The boycott against Athens and the Asian Tatari do not need any presentation since their conducts are widely known. But regarding the other two, FYROS and FYROC, these states buys goods from Macedonia, from the Macedonian bandits, the Mafia, and then put their own labels on these goods. This is something we cannot accept, this is criminal!
Neither wine, as Vranac for example (a Macedonian wine that has been produced for thousands of years), nor preserved vegetables, as for example ajvar, pindjur, strong pepper (feferoni), mixed salad, are manufactured in Slovenia but is brought directly from Macedonia. The only thing the Slovenians do is to put their own labels on the cans. The Croats uses the same pranks on for example red paprika from Macedonia.
The Macedonian Nation must also boycott all diplomatic relations with FYROC since their Government co-operates with the Asian tatari's Government in Sofija in order to forge Macedonian history. Both Governments have made a deal about building a big statue in the town of Gjakovo in FYROC, representing two Macedonian patriots who fought for the Macedonian culture, two brothers, Dimitar and Konstantin Miladinovci. The Zagreb and the Sofija Government tries to take this legends from the Macedonian people and turn them into "Bulgarians". This is both humiliating and criminal by these Governments to continue to forge the history of other nationalities. The Macedonian nation do not accept this.
The family of Dimitar and Konstantin Miladinovci have protested and they have tried to stop these Governments attempts. The Macedonian Revolutionary Organization VMRO-MNM support their claims and we demand from the Zagreb Government that they stop meddling in other people's history and that they keep their hands from the Macedonian nation and the Macedonian history. This declaration will be sent to the Zagreb Government and with it the Macedonian organization demand a written answer that the claims from the family of Dimitrija and Konstantin Miladonovci and VMRO-MNM will be accepted.
FYROS and FYROC, who have acknowledged Macedonia under its true, accurate name, still uses the name FYROM in international connections, as for example the Eurovision Song Contest. The Macedonian nation do not concede to this
Catastrophically events continues in Macedonia. In the western parts of Macedonia the Macedonian children do not longer dare to go to school because of the "Albanian" terrorists. The terror leaders from the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija, Arben Dzaferi and Hashim Thaci (Tachi) have organized and armed "Albanian" youths. Many Macedonian children have been severely maltreated. This has made the Macedonian children afraid of going to school in their own country. Other children have been kidnapped and brought out of the country to the brothels of the Western World and to the luxury hotels and clubs of paedophiles. We do not accept these deeds.
And the "Albanian" terrorist leader Arben Dzaferi who is a member in the anti Macedonian Government in Skopje and terrorist leader no 2, Hashim Thaci (Tachi), in the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija, have organized a new terror organization together with Nato, in our country Macedonia. On Jan 22, 2000, they performed a terror attack on a police station in the village of Tearce in the Macedonian region of Tetovo. One policeman was murdered and three others were severely injured. We can not accept this. These terrorists, both "Albanians" and Nato must leave our country immediately. The Macedonian people in Macedonia must boycott "Albanian" stores and both adults as children must stop speaking to "Albanians", at work, in the streets, in the schools etc.
A boycott against the country "Albania" where the "Albanian" balists from Caucasus resides is however not necessary since there are no goods "Made in Albania". These unintelligent people have neither industries nor any products. They have terror organizations and Mafia bandits and their trade is in drugs from different countries and Mafia groups and in the Western World's weapons and drugs. They do not know anything else but crime, to murder and rape and provoke war.An Appeal from the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM
The Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM appeal for help and support, for acknowledgement of our country and for our independence. We thank the countries that have acknowledged Macedonia under its true, historical name and wait for remaining countries to follow their example as soon as possible.
We ask for support in the struggle against inequitable organizations and institutions for human rights. And by protesting, make these acknowledge Macedonia under its true, historical name and that the name FYROM vanishes for ever.
The Macedonian people are living, in all of the occupied territories, a terrible life in poverty with violations, torture and imprisonment. The Macedonian people have no human rights what so ever. Some months ago VMRO-MNM received a tape from a Macedonian group in Germany. The tape showed people, living in extreme poverty in the Aegean part of Macedonia, occupied by the Athenians.
Old people were interviewed and what they told us on the tape was unforgettable. They appealed to Macedonian patriots to save them from the penury they are living in because of the Athenian fascistic occupants. This tape reveals many villages that have been forgotten by the rest of the world. Water and electricity is missing, the houses are old, worn down and not fit to be inhabited. Nor is 80-90 year old people allowed to speak Macedonian but are forced to learn Athenian. Why these old people are alone in these forgotten villages without any children is because of their children being forced to leave the Aegean part of Macedonia by the Athenian fascists. These old people have never seen their children again and they have never meet their grand children since they are not let in to the Aegean part of Macedonia by the occupants
Genocide has been performed in the Aegean part of Macedonia by the Athenian occupants. The most known are the one after 1913 and during the Second World War and after. This tape is proof of what the Macedonian people, in the year 2001, are experiencing in their own country. One can wonder how a country, the so called "Greece" can be a member of the EU, a "democratic" organization. The bureaucratic bandits in Brussels, Strasbourg and Luxembourg should be ashamed.
If this tape was to be copied and sent to the press and the media of the world we can guarantee that no one would show it. The Western World would stop it so the truth about the Macedonian people will not come out. But the future will show the truth about the Macedonian nation.
This appeal will be sent by e-mail to all the governments of the world. We ask you to answer as soon as possible, by registered letter, sign by the country's head of State, on the address:
Web Site: http://www.vmro-mnm.com
Contact: macedonia_for_the_macedonians@vmro-mnm.com, info@vmro-mnm.com, trepet@vmro-mnm.com, vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
We thank the countries that have supported us since before and they who in the future will support us.
United Macedonia
United Macedonians
Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
President of the Macedonian Organization VMRO-MNM
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VMRO-MNM (MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS)! -- MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY, 07:52:36 04/18/03 Fri
From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
To: macedonian_revolutionary@hotmail.com
CC: ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
Subject: Web sajtot na VMRO-MNM e zatvoren citajte ja mojta izjava.
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:15:52 +0000
Makedonski komito eve ja mojata izjava i sega mozes da ja preprakjas na Makedonski narod i postavi ja vo Makedonskite forumi.
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
11 April 2003 g.
Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Deneska na den 11 April 2003 g. Na Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM). Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com se zatvori. Povodot i faktot za zatvaranjeto na Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com bese sto siptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi, aktivno se aktiviraa zaedno so Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski koj sto zaedno ja imat vlasta sobranieto i site drugi Makedonski institucii i asosijacii. Ke povtoram, povodot i faktot bese za ispratenite E-mail poraki od siptarskite zverski, zlocinski dusmani na Makedonskiot narod, so nivni zakani i provokacii. Nie od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM tie nivni agresorski, provokatorski, zakanuvacki i lazna propaganda E-mail poraki gi objavivme vo naj Makedonskiot nacionalen, komitski i patriotski Web sajt. Poslednite dve nedeli imavme konflikt so gazdite na kompanijata Mette Martinsen mette@isphuset.se i Tom Martinsen tom@isphuset.se, ISPHuset Nordic AB info@isphuset.se Webb: http://isphuset.se/.
Taka da gazdite, odnosno direktorite na kopanijata imale domieno E-mail poraki od siptarskite gadovi so zalbi sto nie sme objavuvale nivni E-mail poraki so nivni iminja i preziminja i sto sme gi narekle siptaraskite gnasotii za vistinski nasisti, fasisti i teroristi (E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!). Taka da na direktorite ne im se dopadnalo dek nasite golemi agresori, zlocinci i dusmani sme gi narekle ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS.
Pa neli zapadniot svet e demokratski, solidarni i realni. Sekoj covek ima pravo da si go iskaze svoeto mislenje. Ne samo nie Makedoncite nemame pravo da si go kazeme naseto mislenje. Da si ja kazuvame nasata vistina. Da gi kazime ogromnite zagrozuvanja i stradanja na dobriot, vernio, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod.
Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Jas vo prilog ke vi gi dostavam E-mail porakite od Direktorkata Mette Martinsen na kompanijata i mio odgovori. Analizite na E-mail porakite se napisani na Svedski-FSPOS jazik. Da jas ne vi gi preveduvam analizite na Makedonski jazik, moze nema da mi veruvate, pa zatoa mozete vie samite da se snajdete so preveduvanje na Makedonski jazik.
Citajte me posle E-mail porakite:
FROM: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
DATE: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:56:25 0200
TO: vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: SV: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
Hej igen Ljupco
Mängden av klagar på din hemdia har ökt här, och styrelsen har beslutat att sidan brytar mot våra almänna vilkor. Du har till på fredag att hitta ett nytt webbhotell - härifrån kommer dina konton att stängas ner på nästa fredag. Vi beklagar, men det är inget annat vi kan göra.
Med vänlig hälsning
Mette Martinsen
Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB
Tlf: 46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: 46 (0)46 854 21
Email: mette@isphuset.se Webb: http://isphuset.se/
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Från: vmro-mnm mailto:vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
Skickat: den 31 mars 2003 21:53
Till: ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen
Kopia: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Ämne: Re: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
FROM: Alban halili shiptari195@yahoo.com.au
DATE: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:01:46 1000 (EST)
TO: "VMRO-MNM" info@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Mamu ti cigansku
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Macedonia is a heart of Albania!!!!!!!!!
and Shkupi will be the Capital of Greater Albania??
We "Kosovar black eagles" r able to take macedonia
within 2 hours???????
Kosovar black eagles" A special army unit mainly consisted of kOSOVARS aMERICANS and English paramilitary special troops???
Alla bless U.S.A kosova, England, Germany
we gonna kill all uz mother fuckers??????
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From: "Ferik Ferizaj" feriku2000@hotmail.com
To: vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Macedonia is Ours
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:52:32 -0600
Albanians will take over Macedonia within 10 years (remember this)!!!.
And Albanians are not terrorists but you and all Serbians are. The world knows who terrorists are.
There is no Macedonian Nation-those who call themselves Macedonian are either Serbian or Bulgarian-everybody knows it.
I'm not from Macedonia but I Will fight for our land (Macedonia is our Land) and we will take over Macedonia.
In fact Albanian Army in Macedonia is fighting already (as you may well know).
So remember Mr. whoever you are Macedonian is Albanian Land.
Write me at feriku2000@hotmail.com
or visit me at
ferik.intranet
I'll tell you more!
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From: Rahim Hiseni kosovar_brad@hotmail.com
To: vmro-mnm@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject:
FUCK YOU ALL MACEDONIEN WHE WILL KILL YOU ALL...........
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From: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:17:56 0200
>Hej igen Ljupco
>
>Jag vet att jag har att göra med en förening och att du är bra att tala för dig, men jag har tyvärr inte tid att kommentera ditt mail ytterligare eller hålla på att mäkla. Jag ser på din hemsida följande rubrik:
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>E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!
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>Vi har faktisk regler om att vi inte accepterar någon form av rasism på våra sidor, och även om det är så att du tycker du bara visar fram vad andra skriver, så får du modifiera det du själv skriver i alla fall.
>Personen som har kontaktat mig önskar vara anonym och inte kontakta dig direkt. Vi har som sagt inte tid att hålla på med detta, så du får alltså nu en chans att göra din hemsida så att den kan ligga på vår server och följa våra regler. (Se punkt 11)
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>Med vänlig hälsning
>Mette Martinsen
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>Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB
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> Tlf: 46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: 46 (0)46 854 21
>Email: mette@isphuset.se Webb: http://isphuset.se/
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>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: vmro-mnm mailto:vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
>Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 17:11
>Till: ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen; ljupco@vmro-mnm.com
>Kopia: vmro-mnm
>Ämne: Re: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
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>Hej Mette!
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>Jag har tidigare bett dig att du skall e-maila personen/personerna ifråga och be denne/dem att kontakta mig så att jag kan ta bort dens/deras e-mail adress/er. Detta har inte skett. Jag kan omöjligt veta vilken/vilka denna/dessa personen/personerna är då vi har tusentals e-mails på organisationens hemsida. De flesta av dem är dock stolta över att få vara delaktiga i hemsidan. Däremot kan jag tänka mig att de som har skrivit hotelser och vulgariteter till organisationen inte uppskattar att finnas här.
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>Du skriver att det inte är första gången jag är i blåsväder. Då frågar jag vilket blåsväder det skulle vara? Jag har aldrig varit i något blåsväder. Däremot har vissa personer (eller person) kontaktat dig för att denne/de vill att organisationen skall plocka bort dens/deras e-mail adresser. Naturligtvis plockar vi bort e-mail adresserna för de som inte vill stå för sina åsikter.
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>Antingen får vi göra så att du ber dem att kontakta organisationen eller så får du själv kopiera deras klagomål och maila oss detta inklusive e-mail adresserna och vilken länk det gäller (detta är ytterst viktigt, annars kan jag omöjligen hitta brevet/breven). Det bästa är dock att du själv skickar oss detta då det inte fungerade förra gången jag sade till. Och jag vill inte hamna i "något blåsväder", som du uttrycker det, för att de inte mailar mig.
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>När det gäller e-mails, du har skrivit att "se till att sluta maila fok som inte önskar få dina e-mails", så skickar vi dessa till: folk som har kontaktat organisationen, Politiska forum och gästböcker och politiska, historiska hemsidor på nätet.
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>Vad jag vet så är politiska forum till för diskussion. Sålunda så läser jag ett inlägg som någon annan skrivit och sedan svarar på detta. Vad jag förstår med ditt e-mail så är det således så att organisationen inte är "välkommen" hos vissa diskussionsforum. I så fall behöver vi veta vilka de är så att vi inte "stör" dem igen. Jag vill dock säga att har man ett diskussionsforum på nätet så får man också vara beredd på att det blir diskussioner. Annars vad är det för mening med att ha det?
>Organisationen skickar alltså inte till några "vanliga" företag eller "stör" någon som inte är politisk engagerad.
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>Om något av detta skulle upprepas, vilket vi inte får hoppas men som en politisk organisation aldrig kan vara säker på, så vill jag att ni kontaktar organisationen och skickar e-mail adresserna direkt, utan kommentarer, så att vi kan plocka bort dem direkt. Detta underlättar både för er och för organisationen och jag slipper sådana här e-mails som jag absolut inte uppskattar.
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>M.v.h Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
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>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:18:05 0100
>
>>Hej Ljupco
>>
>>Vi har åter mottagit en anmälan pga din hemsida och dina mailutskick.
>>Du lägger ut emails på hemsidan och igen är det personer som inte önskar detta. Du får också se till att sluta maila folk som inte önskar få dina emails. Om inte vi kan få orden på detta har vi inget annat val än att stänga ner din hemsida. Då mycket av texten är på macedonsk (?) kan vi av goda grunnar inte få med oss allt, men detta är inte första gången du är i blåsväder. Kan du inom en vecka dokumetera att du har ändrat på hemsidan, får du ligga kvar, annars får vi stänga ner.
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>>Mvh. Mette Martinsen
>>ISPHuset Nordic AB
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Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Jas imav sumna deka toa se raboti za ignoriranje na Makeodnskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite), od svetskata javnost. Se razbira za da ne se doznava vistinata za Makedonskata drzava i za Makeodnskiot narod. I moejata sumlivost ispadna i vo vistinsko. Pred nekoj den na mojot mobil telefon mi se javi eden GNASEN siptarski-balista i mi rece deka sme prokleti sloveni i deka gi kostalo "albancite" i nivnite slavo Makedonski prijateli od vladata sto morale da platat nekolku miljoni dolari na direktorite od kompanijata Mette Martinsen mette@isphuset.se i Tom Martinsen tom@isphuset.se za da se zatvori Web stranicata na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
Pocituvani moi Makedonci. Golemite uspesi i napreduvanja na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Uspesite i napreduvanjata im uspevat sekoj dnevno zatoa sto nie Makedoncite ne sme obedineti i edinstveni. Nie Makedoncite sme podeleni i se mrazime eden sprema drug, a nasite golemi neprijateli i zlocinski dusmani ni se smeat i si se podigavat so nasata tolerancija kon nasite golemi neprijateli, zverski i zlocinski dusmani i golemi tolerancii kon Makedonskite zlocinski dusmani, izrodi i predavnicki zverovi-zverski.
Bogatata siptarska-balisticka mafijaska banda i Makedonskite kapetalisticki izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski se sposobni da platat bilo koj samo da ni naskodi na nas dobrite, vernite, realnite, napatenite, zagrozenite i porobenite Makedonci. A naj golemata aktivnost i borba na gnasnite siptarski-balistii, ekstremisti, nacsiti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite psihopati, sizofrenicari, pedofili, mafijaski banditi, Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski im e da ja unistat VNATRESNATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA-MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM).
Pocituvani dobri, verni, cesni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porobeni braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Apeliram do site vas, da ni pomognete i podrzite so nasata Makedonska nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Organizacija VMRO-MNM i da ni pomognete i podrzite so naj Makeoskata nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Web stranica, za da pronajdeme nekoja sigurna i dobra internet kompanija za da ja otvorime povtorno Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com .
Dokolku sakata da ni pomognete pisete ni na ovie dve E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com i Macedonian Revolutionary macedonian_revolutionary@hotmail.com
Predhodnite E-mail adresi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM: VMRO-MNM info@vmro-mnm.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet trepet@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM macedonia_for_the_macedonians@vmro-mnm.com (Tie E-mail adresi ne postojat povise).
Unapred vi se zablagodaruvam za vasata realna sorabotka, pomos i podrska!
So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, cesni, realni i gordi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, od site nas komitite i patriotite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!
SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!
SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!
SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI !
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!
TOA E PORAKATA OD MAKEDONSKIOT KOMITA I PATRIOT TREPET I OD SITE HRABRI MAKEDONSKI KOMITI, PATRIOTI I BORCI......
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA VMRO-MNM (MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE)!
JAS SUM MAKEDONEC A NE FYROMEC!
NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE!
Pretsedatel Na Makedonskata
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Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
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Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe Strasbourg-Cedex France -- MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY, 07:51:28 04/18/03 Fri
Letter to the European Court of Human Rights Council of Europe Strasbourg-Cedex!
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxxxx
Pers nr. XXXXXX-XXXX
Xxxxxxxx xxx x
xxxx xx LANDSKRONA
SVERIGE
Tel: + 46 XXXXXXX
Mobitel: + 46 XXXXXXX
2003-04-02
Till Europadomstolen i Strasbourg
Jag skriver till er angående mina problem i detta nazistiska, fascistiska och kriminella, svenska samhälle. I detta land har jag utsatts för bedrägliga och kränkande handlingar av svenska kriminella myndigheter som stulit hundratusentals kronor av mig.
1987 öppnade jag ett företag. Jag lånade då 45 000 skr på SE-banken. Jag tog också lån på Nordbanken (+checkräkningskredit). Därutöver köpte jag kontorsmöbler på IKEA och kontorsmaterial på Gleerups, allt på faktura, mm.
Tyvärr gick inte företaget bra och för att kunna överleva var jag tvungen att avregistrera mitt företag. Hade jag bara hållit ut en månad till, då jag blev erbjuden ett arbete av ett stort byggnadsföretag i Sverige, hade min lycka varit gjord.
1988 började jag arbeta på ett slakteri. Jag började då också betala av på min skuld med 1 250 kr som automatiskt drogs från min lön varannan vecka.
Lite mer än ett år senare var min skuld på 45 000 skr till SE-banken betald - endast räntan återstod. Jag fortsatte då att betala 1 000 skr/mån till detta. Tyvärr skadades jag allvarligt på mitt arbete vilket betydde att jag blev långtidssjukskriven. Jag fortsatte ändå att betala av på räntan till SE-banken. Problemet var att även kronofogdemyndigheten gjorde avdrag på min sjukinkomst med mellan 1 000 - 1 500 skr/mån. Till slut med min dåliga (och fortsatt dåliga) inkomst kändes detta ohållbart och jag slutade betala till SE-banken. Kronofogdemyndigheten tog då över alla skulder.
Kronofogdemyndigheten har alltså dragit pengar från mig under hela tiden. Både under min sjukskrivning och sedan när jag blev förtidspensionär. Summan har varit ca 2 500 skr/mån (någon gång 2 800 skr). De har också lagt beslag på min överskjutande skatt. Denna summa har varierat beroende på hur mycket skatt jag betalat in men den har legat på mellan 6 000 kr - 9 000 kr. Allt som allt har kronofogdemyndigheten dragit ca 30 000 - 40 000 skr av mig varje år.
Som nämnts tidigare så började jag betala av på min skuld till SE-banken 1988 och lite mer än ett år senare var skulden betald. Det skrämmande är att år 2000 betalade jag 18 805,34 skr i ränta till SE-banken. Detta är alltså ca 10 år senare! Både skulden och räntan har alltså betalats tillbaka med åtminstone ett fyrdubbelt belopp. Men det som är mer skrämmande är att år 2002 fick jag papper om att jag fortfarande inte var kvitt skulden till SE-banken utan var skyldig dem 54 739 skr! När jag kontaktade SE-banken angående detta sade de att jag inte var skyldig dem något, att skulden var betald. Men enligt ett papper från kronofogdemyndigheten daterat 2003-03-12 är nu skulden till SE-banken 57 556 skr. Detta är en höjning på skulden på 2 817 skr på ett år. Då kan man börja undra var de ca 2 500 skr tar vägen som de drar av mig varje månad. De har i alla fall inte använt dem till att betala skulder.
Min dåliga hälsa och mitt handikapp har inneburit otaliga läkarbesök och dyra mediciner. Detta och min redan dåliga ekonomi på grund av mycket låg inkomst tillsammans med kronofogdens avdrag gjorde att jag 1996 fick problem med att betala min hyra. Min hyresskuld var då 8 848 kr inklusive ränta. I 1997, då kronofogdemyndigheten tog över skulden, var den på 10 679 skr exklusive ränta! Inklusive ränta skulle jag då betala 12 896 skr. Vad jag inte kan förstå är hur kapitalskulden kan förändras. Att det tillkommer ränta är inget egendomligt (den skall dock vara rimlig) men att själva kapitalskulden växer osar lurendrejeri! En annan sak angående den skulden är att den i dag, 2003, är på 5 300 skr + ränta 729,28 skr = 6 029,28 skr.
Detta betyder att av de ca 2 500 skr kronofogdemyndigheten drar av mig varje månad så har, på 5,5 år, 6 866,72 skr gått till denna skuld (skulden skulle egentligen idag vara på 8 848 - 6 866,72 = 1 981,28 skr och inte 6 029,28).
Det blir alltså 104 kr i månaden! Då kan man naturligtvis fråga sig var de andra pengarna tagit vägen för som vi kan se så har de inte gått till mina skulder. Alla de skulder jag har finns på kronofogdemyndigheten. Deras skyldighet, med alla de pengar de drar av mig, är att se till att alla skulder betalas (och att det sker med en gnutta förstånd, hyresskulden skulle ha kunnat vara betald för flera år sedan). Men som det ser ut verkar de har stoppat dessa pengar i sina egna fickor. Min orsak till att komma med
detta påstående kommer jag att ta upp senare i detta brev.
Jag har under alla dessa år betalat mellan 400 000 - 500 000 skr. Kvar är skulder på ca 250 000 skr. En sådan hög summa hade jag inte 1989.
En annan räkning som jag har och som också finns hos kronofogdemyndigheten är från telefonbolaget Telia. Detta är en katastrofräkning på 30456.00 skr (Datum, 2003-02-26).
I Sverige är det känt att folk har fått mycket höga telefonräkningar trots att de inte har använt telefonen. Den summan på 30456.00 skr jag har fått kan jag inte acceptera. Tyvärr kan ingen vinna över Telia - maffian - då de stöds av svenska myndigheter.
Som jag har nämnt tidigare angående kronofogdemaffian så verkar det som om de har stoppat mina pengar i sina egna fickor. Orsaken till mitt påstående kommer jag att förklara här. Under många år har jag betalat oerhörda summor till kronofogdemyndigheten och fortfarande är inte mina skulder betalda. När jag gjorde ett snabbt överslag av mina skulder fann jag att jag hade betalat in alldeles för mycket. Jag skrev då ett brev till kronofogdemyndigheten (se bilaga 1) där jag bad om kopior på vilka företag jag haft/har en skuld till, samt hur stor summan är/har varit. Räntan skulle specificeras. Detta brev lämnade jag personligen till kronofogdemyndigheten, till en kvinna vi namn Yvonne Karlsson, 2002-09-04. Några dagar senare fick jag ett annat brev från en kvinna vid namn Åsa Gunnarsson daterat 2002-09-04. Jag trodde då att det kanske var ett svar på min förfrågan men så var inte fallet. Jag skickade då även min förfrågan till henne. Jag har fortfarande inte fått något svar på mitt brev. Däremot har jag fått dessa papper från dem 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) och 2003-01-14 (bilaga 3). Jag vill bara ta upp här vad kronofogdemyndigheten skriver i sitt brev från 2003-01-14, mer än 4 månader efter mitt brev som de inte orkat svara på:
Ni har tidigare underrättats om nedan förtecknade skulder. Eftersom ni inte har betalt, avser kronofogdemyndigheten att pröva om utmätning av er lön, pension m.m. kan ske. Utmätning av lön innebär att avdrag görs på er lön, pension m.m. hos arbetsgivaren eller försäkringskassan så att skulden blir betald.
För att kronofogdemyndigheten skall kunna bedöma hur stort avdrag som kan göras, är det viktigt - för er egen skull - att ni fyller i och skickar bifogade blankett till kronofogdemyndigheten senast den 30 januari 2003 (använd svarskuvertet) Det går också bra att lämna uppgifterna per telefon.
Vill ni undvika att lön, pension m.m. tas i anspråk måste ni betala hela skulden omgående.
För ytterligare upplysningar kan ni vända er till kronofogdemyndigheten.
Handläggs av Yvonne Karlsson
Tala om fräckhet! Här har jag kontaktat dem upprepade gånger men de har inte ens orkat svara på mina förfrågningar. Sedan har de mage att skicka ett sådant papper som detta. Varje månad drar kronofogdemyndigheten 2 500 skr av min pension. Hur länge tänker de fortsätta med sin utsugning? Enligt ett utdrag ur kronofogdemyndighetens databas daterat 2002-12-10 (bilaga 2) har 7 660 skr av mina pengar gått till att betala skulder. Då frågar jag, var har de andra pengarna tagit vägen?? De skulder som kronofogdemyndigheten nämner i sitt papper (bilaga 3) är skulder som redan finns hos dem och som de skall fördela mina 2 500 skr till, varje månad. Här är det inget tal om att inte betala när de drar pengar av mig just för att de skall göra just detta. Märk
också att denna kvinna är densamma som jag gav brevet till i september månad, och som jag fortfarande inte fått svar på.
Detta är det svar jag gav kronofogdemyndigheten:
Ni har under åtskilliga år gjort avdrag på min lön och sedemera min pension.
Nu visar det sig att ni kräver pengar för en skuld till SE-banken som redan är betald. Jag har även varit i kontakt med SE-banken som bekräftar att jag inte längre har någon skuld till dem. Som jag nämnt har ni under en mycket lång tid gjort avdrag på min inkomst. Ändå, skall jag enligt er, ha ett flertal skulder kvar att betala. Som ett exempel vill jag nämna en mycket gammal skuld till Landskronahem som fortfarande inte är betald. Allt detta får mig naturligtvis att undra var denna, under årens lopp, stora summa som ni har dragit har tagit vägen.
Jag har tidigare bett er att skicka papper på alla mina skulder och alla de utbetalningar som gjorts under alla dessa år. Men fast jag upprepande gånger har bett er att skicka dessa papper har ni underlåtit att göra detta.
Ert ointresse och okänslighet för mitt fall ger mig ingen annan möjlighet an att föra vidare min klagan till Europadomstolen.
Jag ser ingen anledning att svara på era frågor när ni själva nonchalerar mina upprepande förfrågningar.
Jag har, inte överraskande, inte fått något svar på detta brev. Jag har rätt att få svar - jag har rätt att få redovisning - men inget har jag har fått.
De håller tyst men vill stjäla pengar från mig livet ut och det kan jag inte acceptera.
Under samma tid, 2002-09-09, besökte jag även skattemyndigheten där jag också lämnade ett brev. Inte heller från dem fick jag något svar. 2003-01-28 var jag igen hos skattemyndigheten för att ge dem brevet ännu en gång och fråga varför jag inte fått svar. Kvinnan jag pratade med sade att jag skulle ta upp detta med kronofogdemyndigheten istället eftersom de inte hade med detta att göra. Jag sade då till henne att eftersom det är de som betalar ut mina skattepengar till kronofogden så har jag rätt att få svar på mitt brev och en redovisning över de utbetalningar de gjort. Hon sade då att hon kunde ge mig uppgifter för de senaste 10 åren, men inte längre bak i tiden. De papper jag fick av henne är dessa. Dagen efter kom denna datorutskrift.
Jag lämnade också ett brev till försäkringskassan, 2002-09-06, eftersom här finns det starkaste beviset på hur mycket som har betalats ut till kronofogdemyndigheten men fast jag hade rätt att få svar fick jag inget.
Efter flera månaders väntan gick jag den 2003-01-28 igen till försäkringskassan för att lämna samma brev. Jag talade då också med högste chefen Olle Guldstrand. Jag visade honom breven till försäkringskassan, kronofogdemyndigheten och skattemyndigheten och frågade honom varför jag inte fått svar på mina frågor. Jag sade också att jag tänkte stämma kronofogdemyndigheten till Europadomstolen och också skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan för deras samarbete med kronofogdemyndigheten i denna stöld. Jag sade till honom att det inte kan vara rätt att först betala 400 000 skr - 500 000 skr under dessa år på en sammanlagd skuld av ca 90 000 skr och ändå ha en skuld kvar som är högre nu än då. Jag sade också till honom att det var försäkringskassans ansvar att kontrollera hur mycket pengar som betalas ut och till vad. Olle Guldstrand sade då att kronofogdemyndigheten skickar papper och dokument och bestämmer hur mycket som skall dras, sedan gör försäkringskassan som de vill. När de gällde svaren på mina frågor sade han att det skulle jag ha fått och att jag hade rätt att kräva det. Han sade att jag skulle få uppgifter från dem snarast möjligt men att jag inte kunde få längre än 10 år tillbaka i tiden eftersom uppgifterna sedan försvinner (vilket är något som låter märkligt och som jag inte kan förstå). Inte överraskande bröt Olle Guldstrand sitt löfte och jag har således inte hört något ifrån honom eller fått några papper från försäkringskassan.
Under denna tid, när jag hade skrivit till kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan och inte fått svar, blev jag naturligtvis orolig och försökte få juridisk hjälp.
Jag kontaktade och besökte flera advokater. Vissa var inte alls intresserade, andra krävde 10, 12, 15 000 kr i förskott vilket jag, med min låga inkomst, naturligtvis aldrig skulle kunna betala. Till slut hittade jag en advokat som var villig att hjälpa mig. När jag träffade advokat Johan Sjöström på advokatfirman Andersson & Sjöström, Parkgatan 2, 261 31 Landskrona, visade jag honom de tre brev jag skrivit till dessa tre maffiakompanjoner och berättade i korta drag hur stora skulder jag haft från början, hur många år de dragit pengar från mig och hur höga skulder jag hade nu. Johan Sjöström var mycket positiv till fallet, tyckte själv att det jag hade betalat var för mycket, och skulle hjälpa mig. Jag var dock först tvungen att betala ett förskott på 1 500 skr till honom. Vi bestämde att vi skulle träffas 2002-10-16 då jag också skulle betala förskottet. När vi träffades igen överlämnade jag några viktiga dokument till honom plus det begärda förskottet. Han var fortfarande positiv till mitt fall och upprepade att jag hade betalat för mycket. Han skulle således börja arbeta med mitt fall omedelbart och kontakta kronofogdemyndigheten, skattemyndigheten och försäkringskassan. Han skulle sedan återkomma till mig snarast möjligt.
Efter 2-3 veckor hade jag fortfarande inte hört något från Johan Sjöström och var därför tvungen att själv kontakta honom. När jag talade med honom per telefon var han inte lika positiv till fallet. Han sade att han hade kontaktat dem men fortfarande inte hört något från dem. Han nämnde emellertid något om ränta på ränta. Jag sade då till honom att eftersom varken han eller jag hade fått något svar från de berörda myndigheterna så ville jag att vi skulle stämma dem i tingsrätten. Han sade att i ett sådant här fall kunde man inte göra det. Det fanns ingen lag för ett sådant fall.
Jag undrade då hur det kan vara så att det inte finns en lag som gör det möjligt för mig att stämma dem när de finns lagar som gör att de kan stämma mig. Han sade att det var en annan lag. Han sade också att vi skulle vänta och att han skulle kontakta dem igen. Jag väntade på ett svar från Johan Sjöström ända tills december månad, då jag kontaktade honom igen. Han sade till mig att han hade fått brev från kronofogdemyndigheten och att han skulle skicka detta till mig. Jag väntade på detta nya brev från kronofogdemyndigheten men inget kom. I början av januari månad ringde jag således till Johan Sjöström. Jag fick svaret att han hade skickat brevet till mig. Men det enda han hade skickat mig var de kopior jag tidigare gett honom. Jag sade igen till Johan Sjöström att jag ville stämma kronofogdemyndigheten, försäkringskassan och skattemyndigheten men han var lika kritisk till det som förra gången. Jag bad då honom, då han var min advokat, att ge förslag på vad jag skulle göra. Han sade då att han inte kunde göra mer för de pengar jag betalat honom (fast han hade inte gjort något för dem vilket jag också sade till honom) och att jag inte heller hade så mycket pengar att betala honom och att jag skulle veta att det inte fanns någon advokater i Sverige som kunde hjälpa mig med mitt fall. Jag sade då till Johan Sjöström att min enda möjlighet då är att personligen stämma dessa tre till Europadomstolen vilket låter sig göras om detta är en demokratisk, solidarisk och rättvis domstol. Min personliga uppfattning är att denna advokat har blivit köpt av dessa maffiamyndigheter.
Jag vänder mig således till Europadomstolen för att få hjälp att straffa dessa svenska myndigheters kriminella handlingar och därtill även att de betalar tillbaka de pengar de stulit av mig samt ränta och skadestånd. Det är inte meningen att de skall stjäla hundratusentals kronor av mig och sedan förvänta sig att jag skall fortsätta betala till den dag jag dör. Jag och min familj har under många år fått lida både psykiskt och ekonomiskt på grund av deras övergrepp. Jag kräver således ett skadestånd på 1 (en) miljon kronor plus ränta. Och eftersom västvärlden kallas för ett demokratiskt, rättvist och solidariskt samhälle vill jag att ni skall visa er demokrati.
Detta utsugande av fattiga och sjuka måste stoppas och de ansvariga kriminella måste straffas. Som domstol räknar jag med att ni kan få fram alla bevis och fakta från dessa kriminella. Jag önskar att detta fall tas upp snarast möjligt, att de skyldiga straffas och mitt skadestånd betalas ut.
Tyvärr är det många gånger så att västmedia predikar rättvisa och solidaritet men bakom stängda dörrar finns kriminaliteten. Här i Sverige ser man varje dag på tv och läser i tidningar att invandrare är kriminella. Nu ser vi dock vem som egentligen är kriminell. Vi invandrare behandlas som tredje klassens medborgare, efter djuren. Detta håller media tyst om istället för att berätta sanningen om den västerländska "rättvisan" och "solidariteten".
Vad jag har upplevt i min kontakt med olika myndigheter är deras liknöjdhet och ointresse. Att något är fel kan vem som helst förstå, en skuld på 45 000 skr 1987, kan inte efter 16 års betalning var uppe i 57 556 skr. Man behöver inte vara speciellt intelligent för att räkna ut detta. Tyvärr är det så att när jag har kontaktat myndigheterna så har de inte ens velat kontrollera detta. Det finns alltså inget sätt för mig att få fram sanningen då de som arbetar där antingen är liknöjda eller inblandade. Men jag vägrar fortsätta att bli avlurad 30 000 - 40 000 skr varje år livet ut och acceptera att mina skulder blir högre och högre Därför vänder jag mig till er som en sista chans att få rättvisa. Jag accepterar inte ett brev där ni skriver att ni inte kan göra någonting, då det är ert ansvar att hjälpa mig.
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VMRO-MNM (MACEDONAI FOR THE MACEDONIANS)! -- MACEDONIAN REVOLUTIONARY, 16:15:52 04/13/03 Sun
From: "Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet" ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
To: macedonian_revolutionary@hotmail.com
CC: ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
Subject: Web sajtot na VMRO-MNM e zatvoren citajte ja mojta izjava.
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:15:52 +0000
Makedonski komito eve ja mojata izjava i sega mozes da ja preprakjas na Makedonski narod i postvi ja vo Makedonskite forumi.
Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM)!
Pretsedatel: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Privremen kontakt na E-mail adresata Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com
11 April 2003 g.
Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Deneska na den 11 April 2003 g. Na Vnatresna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija - Makedonija Na Makedoncite (VMRO-MNM). Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com se zatvori. Povodot i faktot za zatvaranjeto na Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com bese sto siptarskite, ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari, teroristi i mafijaski banditi, aktivno se aktiviraa zaedno so Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski koj sto zaedno ja imat vlasta sobranieto i site drugi Makedonski institucii i asosijacii. Ke povtoram, povodot i faktot bese za ispratenite E-mail poraki od siptarskite zverski, zlocinski dusmani na Makedonskiot narod, so nivni zakani i provokacii. Nie od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM tie nivni agresorski, provokatorski, zakanuvacki i lazna propaganda E-mail poraki gi objavivme vo naj Makedonskiot nacionalen, komitski i patriotski Web sajt. Poslednite dve nedeli imavme konflikt so gazdite na kompanijata Mette Martinsen mette@isphuset.se i Tom Martinsen tom@isphuset.se, ISPHuset Nordic AB info@isphuset.se Webb: isphuset.se/.
Taka da gazdite, odnosno direktorite na kopanijata imale domieno E-mail poraki od siptarskite gadovi so zalbi sto nie sme objavuvale nivni E-mail poraki so nivni iminja i preziminja i sto sme gi narekle siptaraskite gnasotii za vistinski nasisti, fasisti i teroristi (E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!). Taka da na direktorite ne im se dopadnalo dek nasite golemi agresori, zlocinci i dusmani sme gi narekle ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS.
Pa neli zapadniot svet e demokratski, solidarni i realni. Sekoj covek ima pravo da si go iskaze svoeto mislenje. Ne samo nie Makedoncite nemame pravo da si go kazeme naseto mislenje. Da si ja kazuvame nasata vistina. Da gi kazime ogromnite zagrozuvanja i stradanja na dobriot, vernio, cesniot, realniot, zagrozeniot, napateniot i porobeniot Makedonski narod.
Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Jas vo prilog ke vi gi dostavam E-mail porakite od Direktorkata Mette Martinsen na kompanijata i mio odgovori. Analizite na E-mail porakite se napisani na Svedski-FSPOS jazik. Da jas ne vi gi preveduvam analizite na Makedonski jazik, moze nema da mi veruvate, pa zatoa mozete vie samite da se snajdete so preveduvanje na Makedonski jazik.
Citajte me posle E-mail porakite:
FROM: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
DATE: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:56:25 +0200
TO: vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: SV: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
Hej igen Ljupco
Mängden av klagar på din hemdia har ökt här, och styrelsen har beslutat att sidan brytar mot våra almänna vilkor. Du har till på fredag att hitta ett nytt webbhotell - härifrån kommer dina konton att stängas ner på nästa fredag. Vi beklagar, men det är inget annat vi kan göra.
Med vänlig hälsning
Mette Martinsen
Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB
Tlf: +46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: +46 (0)46 854 21
Email: mette@isphuset.se Webb: isphuset.se/
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: vmro-mnm [mailto:vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com]
Skickat: den 31 mars 2003 21:53
Till: ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen
Kopia: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
Ämne: Re: SV: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
FROM: Alban halili shiptari195@yahoo.com.au
DATE: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:01:46 +1000 (EST)
TO: "VMRO-MNM" info@vmro-mnm.com
SUBJECT: Mamu ti cigansku
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Macedonia is a heart of Albania!!!!!!!!!
and Shkupi will be the Capital of Greater Albania??
We "Kosovar black eagles" r able to take macedonia
within 2 hours???????
Kosovar black eagles" A special army unit mainly consisted of kOSOVARS aMERICANS and English paramilitary special troops???
Alla bless U.S.A kosova, England, Germany
we gonna kill all uz mother fuckers??????
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From: "Ferik Ferizaj" feriku2000@hotmail.com
To: vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com
Subject: Macedonia is Ours
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:52:32 -0600
Albanians will take over Macedonia within 10 years (remember this)!!!.
And Albanians are not terrorists but you and all Serbians are. The world knows who terrorists are.
There is no Macedonian Nation-those who call themselves Macedonian are either Serbian or Bulgarian-everybody knows it.
I'm not from Macedonia but I Will fight for our land (Macedonia is our Land) and we will take over Macedonia.
In fact Albanian Army in Macedonia is fighting already (as you may well know).
So remember Mr. whoever you are Macedonian is Albanian Land.
Write me at feriku2000@hotmail.com
or visit me at
ferik.intranet
I'll tell you more!
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From: Rahim Hiseni kosovar_brad@hotmail.com
To: vmro-mnm@bredband.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject:
@#%$ YOU ALL MACEDONIEN WHE WILL KILL YOU ALL...........
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From: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:17:56 +0200
>Hej igen Ljupco
>
>Jag vet att jag har att göra med en förening och att du är bra att tala för dig, men jag har tyvärr inte tid att kommentera ditt mail ytterligare eller hålla på att mäkla. Jag ser på din hemsida följande rubrik:
>
>E-MAIL FROM ALBANIAN NAZIS, FASCISTS AND TERRORISTS!
>
>Vi har faktisk regler om att vi inte accepterar någon form av rasism på våra sidor, och även om det är så att du tycker du bara visar fram vad andra skriver, så får du modifiera det du själv skriver i alla fall.
>Personen som har kontaktat mig önskar vara anonym och inte kontakta dig direkt. Vi har som sagt inte tid att hålla på med detta, så du får alltså nu en chans att göra din hemsida så att den kan ligga på vår server och följa våra regler. (Se punkt 11)
>
>Med vänlig hälsning
>Mette Martinsen
>
>
>Mette Martinsen / ISPHuset Nordic AB
>
> Tlf: +46 (0)46 854 29, Fax: +46 (0)46 854 21
>Email: mette@isphuset.se Webb: isphuset.se/
>
>
>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: vmro-mnm [mailto:vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com]
>Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 17:11
>Till: ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen; ljupco@vmro-mnm.com
>Kopia: vmro-mnm
>Ämne: Re: Hemsidan och mailen igen!
>
>
>Hej Mette!
>
>Jag har tidigare bett dig att du skall e-maila personen/personerna ifråga och be denne/dem att kontakta mig så att jag kan ta bort dens/deras e-mail adress/er. Detta har inte skett. Jag kan omöjligt veta vilken/vilka denna/dessa personen/personerna är då vi har tusentals e-mails på organisationens hemsida. De flesta av dem är dock stolta över att få vara delaktiga i hemsidan. Däremot kan jag tänka mig att de som har skrivit hotelser och vulgariteter till organisationen inte uppskattar att finnas här.
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>Du skriver att det inte är första gången jag är i blåsväder. Då frågar jag vilket blåsväder det skulle vara? Jag har aldrig varit i något blåsväder. Däremot har vissa personer (eller person) kontaktat dig för att denne/de vill att organisationen skall plocka bort dens/deras e-mail adresser. Naturligtvis plockar vi bort e-mail adresserna för de som inte vill stå för sina åsikter.
>
>Antingen får vi göra så att du ber dem att kontakta organisationen eller så får du själv kopiera deras klagomål och maila oss detta inklusive e-mail adresserna och vilken länk det gäller (detta är ytterst viktigt, annars kan jag omöjligen hitta brevet/breven). Det bästa är dock att du själv skickar oss detta då det inte fungerade förra gången jag sade till. Och jag vill inte hamna i "något blåsväder", som du uttrycker det, för att de inte mailar mig.
>
>När det gäller e-mails, du har skrivit att "se till att sluta maila fok som inte önskar få dina e-mails", så skickar vi dessa till: folk som har kontaktat organisationen, Politiska forum och gästböcker och politiska, historiska hemsidor på nätet.
>
>Vad jag vet så är politiska forum till för diskussion. Sålunda så läser jag ett inlägg som någon annan skrivit och sedan svarar på detta. Vad jag förstår med ditt e-mail så är det således så att organisationen inte är "välkommen" hos vissa diskussionsforum. I så fall behöver vi veta vilka de är så att vi inte "stör" dem igen. Jag vill dock säga att har man ett diskussionsforum på nätet så får man också vara beredd på att det blir diskussioner. Annars vad är det för mening med att ha det?
>Organisationen skickar alltså inte till några "vanliga" företag eller "stör" någon som inte är politisk engagerad.
>
>Om något av detta skulle upprepas, vilket vi inte får hoppas men som en politisk organisation aldrig kan vara säker på, så vill jag att ni kontaktar organisationen och skickar e-mail adresserna direkt, utan kommentarer, så att vi kan plocka bort dem direkt. Detta underlättar både för er och för organisationen och jag slipper sådana här e-mails som jag absolut inte uppskattar.
>
>M.v.h Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "ISPHuset / Mette Martinsen" info@isphuset.se
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:18:05 +0100
>
>>Hej Ljupco
>>
>>Vi har åter mottagit en anmälan pga din hemsida och dina mailutskick.
>>Du lägger ut emails på hemsidan och igen är det personer som inte önskar detta. Du får också se till att sluta maila folk som inte önskar få dina emails. Om inte vi kan få orden på detta har vi inget annat val än att stänga ner din hemsida. Då mycket av texten är på macedonsk (?) kan vi av goda grunnar inte få med oss allt, men detta är inte första gången du är i blåsväder. Kan du inom en vecka dokumetera att du har ändrat på hemsidan, får du ligga kvar, annars får vi stänga ner.
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>>Mvh. Mette Martinsen
>>ISPHuset Nordic AB
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Pocituvani braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci!
Jas imav sumna deka toa se raboti za ignoriranje na Makeodnskata Organizacija VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite), od svetskata javnost. Se razbira za da ne se doznava vistinata za Makedonskata drzava i za Makeodnskiot narod. I moejata sumlivost ispadna i vo vistinsko. Pred nekoj den na mojot mobil telefon mi se javi eden GNASEN siptarski-balista i mi rece deka sme prokleti sloveni i deka gi kostalo "albancite" i nivnite slavo Makedonski prijateli od vladata sto morale da platat nekolku miljoni dolari na direktorite od kompanijata Mette Martinsen mette@isphuset.se i Tom Martinsen tom@isphuset.se za da se zatvori Web stranicata na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM.
Pocituvani moi Makedonci. Golemite uspesi i napreduvanja na siptarskite ekstremisti, nacisti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski. Uspesite i napreduvanjata im uspevat sekoj dnevno zatoa sto nie Makedoncite ne sme obedineti i edinstveni. Nie Makedoncite sme podeleni i se mrazime eden sprema drug, a nasite golemi neprijateli i zlocinski dusmani ni se smeat i si se podigavat so nasata tolerancija kon nasite golemi neprijateli, zverski i zlocinski dusmani i golemi tolerancii kon Makedonskite zlocinski dusmani, izrodi i predavnicki zverovi-zverski.
Bogatata siptarska-balisticka mafijaska banda i Makedonskite kapetalisticki izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski se sposobni da platat bilo koj samo da ni naskodi na nas dobrite, vernite, realnite, napatenite, zagrozenite i porobenite Makedonci. A naj golemata aktivnost i borba na gnasnite siptarski-balistii, ekstremisti, nacsiti, fasisti, teroristi, pedofili, psihopati, sizofrenicari i mafijaski banditi i na Makedonskite psihopati, sizofrenicari, pedofili, mafijaski banditi, Makeodnskite izrodi, predavnicki zverovi-zverski im e da ja unistat VNATRESNATA MAKEDONSKA REVOLUCIONERNA ORGANIZACIJA-MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE (VMRO-MNM).
Pocituvani dobri, verni, cesni, realni, zagrozeni, napateni i porobeni braka i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci. Apeliram do site vas, da ni pomognete i podrzite so nasata Makedonska nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Organizacija VMRO-MNM i da ni pomognete i podrzite so naj Makeoskata nacionalna, komitska i patriotska Web stranica, za da pronajdeme nekoja sigurna i dobra internet kompanija za da ja otvorime povtorno Web stranicata www.vmro-mnm.com .
Dokolku sakata da ni pomognete pisete ni na ovie dve E-mail adresi: Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet ljupco_mircevski_trepet@hotmail.com i Macedonian Revolutionary macedonian_revolutionary@hotmail.com
Predhodnite E-mail adresi na Organizacijata VMRO-MNM: VMRO-MNM info@vmro-mnm.com, Ljupco Mircevski-Trepet trepet@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM vmro-mnm@vmro-mnm.com, VMRO-MNM macedonia_for_the_macedonians@vmro-mnm.com (Tie E-mail adresi ne postojat povise).
Unapred vi se zablagodaruvam za vasata realna sorabotka, pomos i podrska!
So Makedonski bratski, komitski i patriotski pozdravi do site dobri, verni, cesni, realni i gordi brakja i sestri Makedonki i Makedonci, od site nas komitite i patriotite od Organizacijata VMRO-MNM (Makedonija Na Makedoncite).
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKATA ZEMJA!
VECNO DA ZIVEE MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD!
GOSPOD DA JA BLAGOSLOVI NASATA ZEMJA MAKEDONIJA I GOSPOD DA GO BLAGOSLOVI NASIOT MAKEDONSKI NAROD!
SMTR ZA SIPTARISKITE-BALISTI, TERORISTI I FASISTI!
SMRT ZA SITE ZAPADNI OKUPATORSKI CIZMARI, NACISTI, FASISTI, VARVARI, TERORISTI, BIOKRATI I FANATICI VO NASATA MILA I SAKANA TATKOVINA MAKEDONIJA!
SMTR ZA IZRODITE MAKEDONSKI PREDAVNICKI ZVEROVI-ZVERSKI !
SLOBODA ILI SMRT ZA MAKEDONSKATA DRZAVA I ZA MAKEDONSKIOT NAROD !
EDEN ZA SITE I SITE ZA EDEN!
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NIE SME MAKEDONCI A NE FYROMCI!
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"I WAS AT NORMANDY" fax me! -- Stash, 18:52:42 09/25/02 Wed
Tom Daschel's FAX # 202-224-6603
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You are an embarrassement to the U.S. Mr Daschel!!! -- from: Deb Wise...timdeb4ever@yahoo.com, 03:22:28 03/19/03 Wed
>Tom Daschel's FAX # 202-224-6603
Mr. Daschel,
You are an embarrassement to the United States of America and to this Republic!!! I find you extremely vulgar and pompous and arrogant. I am NOT the only one with this opinion and you need to step down. You stand for NO one and you make America sick!!!! You are a NOBODY!!! You should be ashamed and should go hide your arrogant shameful face! I have witnessed more dramatics in Hollywood as when you get on your pedestal and start spouting your vomit!!!! Get a life...go to France since your actions show more for them!!!
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Condit pays kids $209k -- Stash, 01:56:25 02/04/03 Tue
COMING TUESDAY: Condit pays kids $209k
Bee Staff Reports
Former Rep. Gary Condit paid his children $209,500 last year with funds originally meant to advance his own career, newly released records show.
These payments shed fresh light on the freedom politicians enjoy in the raising and distribution of campaign funds.
For this complete story, pick up a copy of Tuesday's Modesto Bee, or return to Modbee.com
Posted: February 3, 2003 @ 05:07:00 PM PST
(what a great guy)
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Hey Stash! -- San Cassiano, 07:09:49 11/12/02 Tue
are you still here??
Where is str8scoop??
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Re: Hey Stash! -- Stash, 16:28:25 01/12/03 Sun
>are you still here??
>Where is str8scoop??
It is difficult to believe that I am still here, but only occasionally. It has been a rough year. I did not see your message until today. My site didn't take off as I had hoped it would.
Looking forward to a better year.
Stash
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No DNA on Levy's clothing -- stash, 03:19:31 08/16/02 Fri
No DNA on Levy's clothing
August 15, 2002 Posted: 05:15:08 AM PDT
By ALLAN LENGEL
THE WASHINGTON POST
WASHINGTON -- An FBI analysis of the clothing found with Chandra Levy's remains has detected no traces of DNA, law enforcement sources say, all but eliminating the possibility that forensic evidence will help solve the murder case.
The chances of finding clues in the Modesto woman's clothing were always considered remote, in part because the material had been exposed to the elements for more than a year.
But authorities had hoped that meticulous analysis conducted by the FBI laboratory in Washington might turn up hair follicles, blood or semen from Levy's clothing.
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/3988416p-5014014c.
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Re: No DNA on Levy's clothing -- Str8Scoop, 16:26:13 08/17/02 Sat
No DNA on the clothes but from what I hear they still won't turn them over to the Levy forensic investigators to look at. Hummm.
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Re: No DNA on Levy's clothing -- stash, 22:33:42 08/21/02 Wed
>No DNA on the clothes but from what I hear they still
>won't turn them over to the Levy forensic
>investigators to look at. Hummm.
something has been wrong since Day 1 of her disappearance...so I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything at this point.
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What in the World Is Gary Condit Thinking? -- 7/30/2002, 22:50:42 07/30/02 Tue
What in the World Is Gary Condit Thinking?
By Lloyd Grove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 30, 2002; Page C03
In the unlikely event that defeated House Democrat Gary Condit tries to revive his political career, Esquire magazine might be nipping that effort in the bud -- with Condit's help. In the September issue, slain intern Chandra Levy's fling-partner blames the media in general and Connie Chung in particular for his predicament.
"I know what they want me to say. They want me to say that I did her," Condit announces defiantly in the presence of our former Post colleague Mike Sager, who spent nearly a month with the California congressman during his losing renomination bid. "Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it."
As for CNN's Chung, who famously interviewed Condit for ABC News, Condit tells Sager: "Connie Chung became President Putin to me," apparently referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Cold War Soviet terms. "She wasn't gettin' anything out of me; she wasn't going to break me, no way."
Condit adds: "It's mean, but screw her, you know? To be honest, if people look closely at the interview, if anybody bothers in history to watch the tape, they'll see where she went into a daze, she just lost it. I mean, I know I wasn't going to say anything. She just went blank on me at some point. She had no place to go. She had this yellow legal pad. She just kept looking down at her pad. And she asked the one question like ten times, maybe twenty times. I knew this was not going over well. I came very close to saying, 'Hey, Connie, do you got any other questions besides the ones on that yellow pad?' "
What in the World Is Gary Condit Thinking?
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Re: What in the World Is Gary Condit Thinking? -- Str8Scoop, 16:36:58 08/17/02 Sat
>>Condit adds: "It's mean, but screw her, you know? To be honest, if people look closely at the interview, if anybody bothers in history to watch the tape, they'll see where she went into a daze, she just lost it. I mean, I know I wasn't going to say anything. She just went blank on me at some point.
This is the best we can do on the House 'Intelligence' Committee? This man is responsible for protecting our homeland? Funny, Gary doesn't get it but this interview got Connie her own show on one of the cable channels and what did it get Gary? Two new high paid employees (Chad & Cadee) and the loss of what few friends he had left. Connie Chung was in a daze? It's mean, but screw him, you know?
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link to Connie Chung interview with Gary Condit -- 2001 archives, 11:46:39 08/04/02 Sun
Gary Condit interview
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Condit's son Chad -- 8/02/2002, 09:13:34 08/03/02 Sat
http://www.modbee.com/local/v-rightnav_storylist/story/3818390p-4843750c.html
Condit's PAC to be run by son
August 2, 2002 Posted: 05:10:09 AM PDT
By JIM MILLER
BEE CAPITOL BUREAU SACRAMENTO -- Ceres Rep. Gary Condit's state political action committee has been taken over by his son, who intends to use the fund to advance various causes in the Central Valley, the committee's attorney said Thursday.Los Angeles lawyer Stephen Kaufman said Chad Condit intends to take the committee "in a new direction.""Chad has some ideas of what he wants to do with this committee," said Kaufman, who mentioned possible grants for veterans affairs and to foster economic development in the region.
A campaign finance statement filed this week shows that the committee, the Justice PAC, paid $40,000 to Chad Condit and $60,000 to his sister, Cadee Condit, for campaign consulting from Feb. 17 through June 30. The PAC ended June with a $146,487 balance, down from $277,537 a year earlier.Kaufman said the money compensated the Condit children solely for their Justice PAC duties. The payments do not reflect their work for their father's unsuccessful campaign in the Democratic primary, he said.It is a crucial distinction. Many contributions to the state PAC came from businesses, which by law cannot contribute to federal campaigns.But campaign finance experts said the payments raise eyebrows because of Chad and Cadee Condit's high-profile roles in Gary Condit's campaign leading up to the March 5 primary and relative lack of compensation from his federal account.Federal records show that Condit's campaign paid less than $9,000 to Cadee Condit and nothing to Chad Condit from July 1, 2001, through June 30. The records show that Gary Condit's congressional fund is almost depleted after paying for the campaign, and for legal bills and other expenses related to the Chandra Levy case."Clearly it raises a serious question of whether (Condit) was using a state PAC to work for his congressional campaign," said Larry Noble, a former general counsel to the Federal Election Commission who now is executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics.State law requires family members on political committee payrolls to perform demonstrable work. In the 19 weeks covered by Wednesday's statement, the Justice PAC received no contributions and gave out civic donations totaling $3,500.Robert Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, said the agency would need more information before considering any inquiry.Chad Condit declined to comment Thursday, saying "I don't talk to The Modesto Bee." The congressman's spokesman also declined to comment.Meanwhile, Christina Holland, a former Ceres resident who earlier this year said she was working on a Condit documentary, received $250 from the Condit campaign for phone banking. She received $2,500 from the Justice PAC.The PAC also paid $10,000 to San Bernardino County Supervisor Jerry Eaves, who served with Condit in the state Assembly in the 1980s.A civic group that received PAC money was Victims Rights Awareness of Ripon. Janice Keson said the $2,500 donation helped many relatives of crime victims.
the following
In another article from the Opinion section of the Modesto Bee.
http://www.modbee.com/opinion/story/3833293p-4858705c.html
Gary Condit gives himself to the dark side
August 3, 2002 Posted: 05:00:16 AM PDT
The Bee and the public take no pleasure in the continuing self-destruction of Gary Condit's political career. It is sad to see a man who did so well for so many years in elective office end things so badly. The fact that he's paying his children, Chad and Cadee, a total of $100,000 from his political action committee fund for "consulting services" rendered during his failed primary campaign is legal, but we doubt it's what the contributors had in mind when they gave to his PAC.
Nor do we believe Condit contributors expected that $10,000 from the same PAC fund would go to San Bernardino County Supervisor Jerry Eaves, Condit's fellow Gang of Five crony from their Assembly days. Eaves was indicted four times between February 2000 and April 2002 on numerous corruption charges -- most recently bribery, mail fraud and conspiracy. He's even had to pay fines for some of them.
Like Condit, Eaves refused to give up his office; unlike Condit, he won re-election in November. If convicted of the charges pending against him, he will have to leave office.Condit still has five months left to serve and continues to embarrass the 18th Congressional District. He was the sole vote in the House against the expulsion of James Traficant, the former Ohio congressman convicted of various corruption charges and sentenced to eight years in prison. His constituents deserve better representation than that.
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Wreckage Of CIA Plane Believed Found -- AP July 29, 2002, 01:50:57 07/30/02 Tue
Wreckage Of CIA Plane Believed Found
Beijing, July 29, 2002
(AP) U.S. investigators searching for the remains of two CIA pilots killed in a plane crash 50 years ago in China's northeast said Monday they found wreckage but no bodies.
An aging witness led the U.S. Army team to a crash site, and officials planned to test debris found there to see if it was from the C-47 that was shot down on Nov. 29, 1952, during a mission to pick up an anti-communist Chinese agent.
Team members said they would take the debris and photos and measurements of the site back to the United States for study, and decide later whether to continue the search in China.
"We will need more investigation," said Aaron Lehl, a civilian analyst for the eight-member team from the U.S. Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii.
Lehl said he knew of no other American planes missing in that hilly, wooded area. So if the debris is shown to be U.S.-made aircraft parts, "then we are very hopeful that this is the aircraft that went down on that evening," he said at a news conference at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing.
The team searched for shallow graves where a 78-year-old Chinese villager said he helped to bury the badly burned bodies of the pilots near the crash site, but "we did not find any remains," said Franklin Damann, an anthropologist.
The CIA plane was shot down near the North Korean border in the region formerly known as Manchuria. Its pilots -- Robert C. Snoddy of Eugene, Ore., and Norman A. Schwartz of Louisville, Ky. -- were killed and two CIA officers aboard who survived the crash were captured and spent two decades in Chinese prisons.
John T. Downey of Connecticut and Richard G. Fecteau were held until President Nixon publicly acknowledged they were CIA officers.
Chinese and U.S. forces were fighting on opposing sides in the Korean War, and the CIA was trying to undermine the fledgling Chinese communist government.
The CIA plane took off from an airfield near Seoul, South Korea, and had dropped "extraction equipment" -- poles that the plane would use to pick up the Chinese agent, Lehl said. He said the plane circled for about 45 minutes and was coming in for the agent when Chinese forces hit it with .50-caliber machine gun fire.
Lehl said he didn't have any information about the identity or fate of the Chinese agent.
The U.S. team began their search early last week and worked through the weekend. They were guided to the site by the villager who they said was the last survivor of a group that arrived about six hours after the crash and buried the pilots' bodies.
The team had to cross a rushing, rain-swollen stream using a sling chair strung on a cable set up by Chinese authorities. They said the Chinese farmer was too frail to cross the stream, but was close enough to point out the crash site.
"We did find ... a nice tight pocket of 20 (to) 30 meters of aircraft wreckage," said Damann.
The team used metal detectors to search a 300-square-foot area and dug test pits looking for debris, he said.
Damann said none of the items found bore any serial numbers that would confirm it was from a C-47 or markings from the aircraft manufacturer, McDonnell Douglas.
China's agreement to let the U.S. Defense Department to search the site was the first time that Beijing has cooperated on a search for the remains of Americans who died in China during the Cold War.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said this month that China decided to permit the search to promote "friendship between the two peoples and in a humanitarian spirit."
The Pentagon and advocates for the missing hope that China will provide more information about the fate of others, including U.S. soldiers captured by Chinese troops during the 1950-53 Korean War. An estimated 8,100 U.S. servicemen are missing from that war.
About 20 Americans who disappeared in China during the Cold War are still missing, according to Benjamin Wong, a member of the search team and an official of the Pentagon's office for prisoners of war and soldiers missing in action.
© MMII The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Wreckage Of CIA Plane Believed Found
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Vandalism Probed Near Levy Site -- Levy, 11:14:08 07/29/02 Mon
Vandalism Probed Near Levy Site
U.S. Park Police and D.C. police are investigating whether law enforcement personnel are responsible for vandalism at the Rock Creek Park site where Chandra Levy's remains were found, authorities said yesterday. The vandalism occurred during the past three weeks while the site was closed to the public and police maintained a 24-hour watch of the area.
The vandalism at the site, in the woods between Broad Branch Road NW and Grove 17 on Ridge Road, included faces carved into two trees. Also, someone used a knife to strip trees of their bark, officials said.
"The department will not tolerate such juvenile and unprofessional conduct by any of its members if such is the case," said Sgt. Joe Gentile, the D.C. police spokesman.
Sgt. Scott Fear, of the U.S. Park Police, said his department is investigating the case, along with D.C. police.
Vandalism Probed Near Levy Site...read more here
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Jeanine Sanchez Harms -- stash, 10:50:03 07/29/02 Mon
VIGIL IN LOS GATOS MARKS 1 Year ANNIVERSARY
Posted on Sun, Jul. 28, 2002
Group mourns missing woman
VIGIL IN LOS GATOS MARKS ANNIVERSARY
By Connie Skipitares
Mercury News
Dozens of friends, family members and people who never even knew Jeanine Sanchez Harms gathered for a tearful candlelight vigil at dusk Saturday to mark the one-year anniversary of the 42-year-old Los Gatos woman's disappearance.
The event on the lawn at Los Gatos' civic center was a remembrance of the loving daughter and loyal friend who vanished without a trace a year ago on July 27 after going home from a Campbell bar with a man she had met that evening.Candles were lighted, one person to the next, in support -- maybe remembrance -- of the gregarious, dark-haired woman who had loved to go to clubs and dinner parties and had a large circle of friends.
Find Jeanine Home Page
Missing Since July 27th, 2001
Jeanine was last seen at the Pruneyard Shopping Center in Campbell wearing a knee length, short sleeve, light blue, floral pattern dress, and black strap style high heeled sandals. She was driving a black 2000 Ford Mustang with silver race stripes. At around 10:00 PM she was seen leaving with Maurice Xavier Nasmeh driving a green 1993 Jeep Cherokee.
She is 42 years old, has fair skin, is 5'5, 110 lbs, and slender. Her hair is brown with highlights and her eyes are also brown.
If you even think you have any information regarding her whereabouts, please contact the Los Gatos/Monte Sereno Police at 408-354-8600 or 408-395-1101 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
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Smarts' lives revolve around the search -- Stash, 12:08:37 07/28/02 Sun
Smarts' lives revolve around the search
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Forum -- Str8Scoop, 11:32:45 07/24/02 Wed
Hi Pistacio, you're forum is beautiful!!
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Re: Forum -- stash, 14:30:43 07/24/02 Wed
>Hi Pistacio, you're forum is beautiful!!
THANKS, This is too interesting the gag order you may have read abt at the freepers forum. Gag order on the sketch artist.
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Re: Forum -- Str8Scoop, 19:03:55 07/24/02 Wed
>>Hi Pistacio, you're forum is beautiful!!
>THANKS, This is too interesting the gag order you may
>have read abt at the freepers forum. Gag order on the
>sketch artist.
Gag order, huh? I wonder what all this secrecy is all about?
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test -- testing, 23:08:19 07/23/02 Tue
Testing forum
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