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Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups

Author:
Sandie

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Date Posted: 15:22:58 02/28/04 Sat
In reply to: Phil 's message, "Yahoo Groups" on 03:29:03 02/28/04 Sat

>Someone, somewhere like on a Yahoo group called
>"Remembering - Thin Lizzy" (members only) is alledging
>that this board is anti-American.
>(Under a thinly veiled disguise)
>
>I know the actual words used were "American cowards do
>my heid in" or "American wanks"?
>Not exactly slagging off the whole American race is it?
>
>Thanks Sandie or is it Eris or is it Ariadne Goddess
>or is it ....... the list is endless?
>
>Or do you not know what I'm talking about?
>
>Let's have it out in public once and for all?
>
>You may phone a friend, Don or Kerry :-)

Ok, Phil, here we go. I did think in the heat of the moment that what you said was anti-American and and I did say that on the Lizzy group on Yahoo, although I did not and would not mention you by name. And I have thought in the past, due to my own stupidity, that there was a tone of that on this board. It was me, not anyone else and I do take responsiblity for what I say. I've been slagged off here by enough people, especially about the 9-11 thing which I was an idiot to post here, I know that. It wasn't the place for it and it was the wrong thing to do. If you have a problem with Don, which I know you do have and that's your right, you should please take it up with him, not me, and take it up with him directly, via email or phone.

As far as my having different names, I do use the name ariadnegoddess on Yahoo for different groups I belong to, which include groups on collies, the show Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Ballykissangel and other groups as well. If you want the whole list, I'm sure you can find it as it would be boring to post it here. Why do you care that I use different names on groups? I don't post here, only in situations like this, where I am forced to defend myself, but I no longer post here under any name and when I do have to, as now, I use Sandie. I also use the name Bellalorna and Nefertirinile, which is also one of my email names on AOL. I don't have to use the name Sandie on all my groups, it's not the law as far as I know. I don't always want people emailing me on my sandiesg@hotmail. or sandiesg@aol account on these groups, as I've had unpleasent experiences, so I have the right to use what names I please, but I only do that on Yahoo and I have one other name for a hotmail account as well, where most of the spam goes to. It's really not your business but I'll tell you and the world, since one of the things you're accusing me of is being someone else on here, which I will repeat over and over, that I am not. As far as me being Eris, I have no idea who Eris is. Maybe the same person who told me to fuck off. I have no idea who it is, or any of these people, although as I did say, I have one small idea as to who Old Flame might be. As far as me thinking that this board is anti-American, that was just off the top of my head as I wonder why you have to single out anyone as being an Amerian wank or that American wanker does your head in or anything else. Why don't you and Don just have it out and be done with it and why don't you please leave me out of it? What do you want from me with your accusations? I'm not Eris, Or Old Flame or any of the multitude of names used on here. I haven't called Don or Kerry, neither of whose phone numbers I have. I don't know Kerry at all, only from her postings on other groups and then in the past few days here and in the past,(last year) I have spoken to her on ICQ. I don't know or care what her problems are with you and let me backtrack here and tell you that I don't know who Old Flame is, although I have a good idea and as I said, it isn't anyone from the States. The ISP is from the UK and the offshoot he or she is using seems to come from the Birmingham area. ISP's really do matter. If someone wants to post a message from here on a British ISP, the dial up fees would be high and why would they even want to do it? I recall one of Old Flames ISP's being tiscali.net which we don't have here.

I do read this board every day but I don't post here under my name or anyone else's, although I used to post. I did post here once recently defending myself after someone posing as Phil, or Philip told me to fuck off, I fool no one. I haven't posted since and I won't again after this, even though I'll more than likely read some of the threads.

I apologize if what I said offended you, and it was hotheaded to go off like that but I'm tired of the accusations directed at me for one thing. If you want to accuse Don or Kerry of anything write them or call them and have it out with them. I don't have the time to sit here and read all the postings, even though I do read some of the threads as I said. And if you want to have it out with me to a greater degree, then please email me. I will make time to answer it if you do, even though I have to deal with some things to do with my son having his cell phone stolen and my father being unable to drive after breaking his hand and me having to find a way to get him to do his bank business since I don't have a car. I have problems that don't include sitting online all day making up names just to upset you. Even if I did have the time to do that, I wouldn't do it, because contrary to what you might think I'm not that kind of person. As I said, I did say what I said on the Yahoo group, even though I should have used my brains and kept my mouth shut. I should know better at my age and I'm kicking myself for doing so. As I said before, if you have problems with the American wank as you put it or wankers or whatever you said, it escapes me at the moment, why don't you just have it out with them properly. I'm sure the email addresses you have for Don haven't changed or Kerry for that matter. From here on out, please put your personal comments to me in an email. If I am allowed to, I will answer it. Why do you insist on doing things in a public forum?

I do apologize again for the words I used on the Yahoo group. I'm sorry if the post was inflammatory, that wasn't my intention, even though as I keep repeating, I am an idiot and should have known better. I would ask you for the sake of our former friendship that you please leave me alone and stop making untrue accusations against me on this forum. I have many problems, as we all have and I would like to be left alone to deal with them. I can assure you that I will never post again on this forum or the Yahoo one. I've been silenced and it's all for the best as I am the biggest idiot in the world for ever having said that or anything else on here or on any Lizzy group. I would also ask you that if, after all I've said, you still have something to say to me, also for the sake of our former friendship, I would ask you to please email me as it is very embarrassing to have to say these things in a public forum but since I have to, I wiil. I will also repeat as many times as I have to, as I have repeated everything else, that I am not Eris, Old Flame, or whatever the name du jour is. The only thing I will say on that subject is that you need to look to someone in the UK for the answer to who that is and I base that strictly on the ISP. I asked my husband about it, (he's a computer systems analyst) and he explained to me why it wouldn't be feasible for someone from the US to be doing the postings. Whether that is the case about the posts made from NoHost I can't be sure and haven't asked him but those postings were NOT MADE BY ME. As I said before, for the sake of our former friendship, leave me out of all this. It's very upsetting, and unncessary. If you need to vent, then put it into an email and do the same to Don and to Kerry. I know Don through a mutual friend on the net, a huge Thin Lizzy fan and Kerry I've hardly spoken to (on ICQ only) and certainly not by phone. I don't know why I'm doing this and repeating all this, but I guess I feel that if I say it enough times, then it will sink in and you will kindly leave me alone and that you will take your problems with other people to the source of those problems.

I'm asking you to stop this, and treat me like you would like to be treated. With some respect as a human being, a Thin Lizzy fan and someone who knew them when, and as a former friend. That's all I'm asking for. I do realize that I should have never said anything on that group or any other, but my head is not in the place to think clearly lately and I make mistakes, as we all do. For that again, I am sorry. Maybe I am resorting to being a typical woman, but I am sitting here crying because I know I made a mess of my answer and I'm sure it didn't come out as I had intended but I can assure you it was heartfelt. You would not want anyone in your family spoken to like this and accused of these untruths, so I ask the same courtesy from you. Again, and again, I am not any of those people you name, or posting as them or Don or Kerry or anyone else on here.

Very Sincerely,

Sandie Salvucci Gibson

PS to the "person" who called themselves Leilah, (a name I have used on occasion on this board and others, I do admit to that), who asked who's Sandie Salvucci Gibson, is she a record producer and the other bits you asked, you know damn right well who I am. I'm not anyone you need to ask anything about. No, I'm not a record producer or anything of the kind. I was and am a writer and I used to write about rock bands. I don't know why I'm addressing you either, but if you had any guts you'd email me privately. You're a troll who likes to mix it up. Please don't use my name on here anymore.

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