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Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups

Author:
Sandie

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Date Posted: 17:44:58 02/28/04 Sat
In reply to: Sandie 's message, "Re: Yahoo Groups" on 15:22:58 02/28/04 Sat

>>Someone, somewhere like on a Yahoo group called
>>"Remembering - Thin Lizzy" (members only) is alledging
>>that this board is anti-American.
>>(Under a thinly veiled disguise)
>>
>>I know the actual words used were "American cowards do
>>my heid in" or "American wanks"?
>>Not exactly slagging off the whole American race is
>it?
>>
>>Thanks Sandie or is it Eris or is it Ariadne Goddess
>>or is it ....... the list is endless?
>>
>>Or do you not know what I'm talking about?
>>
>>Let's have it out in public once and for all?
>>
>>You may phone a friend, Don or Kerry :-)
>
>Ok, Phil, here we go. I did think in the heat of the
>moment that what you said was anti-American and and I
>did say that on the Lizzy group on Yahoo, although I
>did not and would not mention you by name. And I have
>thought in the past, due to my own stupidity, that
>there was a tone of that on this board. It was me, not
>anyone else and I do take responsiblity for what I
>say. I've been slagged off here by enough people,
>especially about the 9-11 thing which I was an idiot
>to post here, I know that. It wasn't the place for it
>and it was the wrong thing to do. If you have a
>problem with Don, which I know you do have and that's
>your right, you should please take it up with him, not
>me, and take it up with him directly, via email or
>phone.
>
>As far as my having different names, I do use the name
>ariadnegoddess on Yahoo for different groups I belong
>to, which include groups on collies, the show Queer
>Eye for the Straight Guy and Ballykissangel and other
>groups as well. If you want the whole list, I'm sure
>you can find it as it would be boring to post it here.
>Why do you care that I use different names on groups?
>I don't post here, only in situations like this, where
>I am forced to defend myself, but I no longer post
>here under any name and when I do have to, as now, I
>use Sandie. I also use the name Bellalorna and
>Nefertirinile, which is also one of my email names on
>AOL. I don't have to use the name Sandie on all my
>groups, it's not the law as far as I know. I don't
>always want people emailing me on my sandiesg@hotmail.
>or sandiesg@aol account on these groups, as I've had
>unpleasent experiences, so I have the right to use
>what names I please, but I only do that on Yahoo and I
>have one other name for a hotmail account as well,
>where most of the spam goes to. It's really not your
>business but I'll tell you and the world, since one of
>the things you're accusing me of is being someone else
>on here, which I will repeat over and over, that I am
>not. As far as me being Eris, I have no idea who Eris
>is. Maybe the same person who told me to fuck off. I
>have no idea who it is, or any of these people,
>although as I did say, I have one small idea as to who
>Old Flame might be. As far as me thinking that this
>board is anti-American, that was just off the top of
>my head as I wonder why you have to single out anyone
>as being an Amerian wank or that American wanker does
>your head in or anything else. Why don't you and Don
>just have it out and be done with it and why don't you
>please leave me out of it? What do you want from me
>with your accusations? I'm not Eris, Or Old Flame or
>any of the multitude of names used on here. I haven't
>called Don or Kerry, neither of whose phone numbers I
>have. I don't know Kerry at all, only from her
>postings on other groups and then in the past few days
>here and in the past,(last year) I have spoken to her
>on ICQ. I don't know or care what her problems are
>with you and let me backtrack here and tell you that I
>don't know who Old Flame is, although I have a good
>idea and as I said, it isn't anyone from the States.
>The ISP is from the UK and the offshoot he or she is
>using seems to come from the Birmingham area. ISP's
>really do matter. If someone wants to post a message
>from here on a British ISP, the dial up fees would be
>high and why would they even want to do it? I recall
>one of Old Flames ISP's being tiscali.net which we
>don't have here.
>
>I do read this board every day but I don't post here
>under my name or anyone else's, although I used to
>post. I did post here once recently defending myself
>after someone posing as Phil, or Philip told me to
>fuck off, I fool no one. I haven't posted since and I
>won't again after this, even though I'll more than
>likely read some of the threads.
>
>I apologize if what I said offended you, and it was
>hotheaded to go off like that but I'm tired of the
>accusations directed at me for one thing. If you want
>to accuse Don or Kerry of anything write them or call
>them and have it out with them. I don't have the time
>to sit here and read all the postings, even though I
>do read some of the threads as I said. And if you want
>to have it out with me to a greater degree, then
>please email me. I will make time to answer it if you
>do, even though I have to deal with some things to do
>with my son having his cell phone stolen and my father
>being unable to drive after breaking his hand and me
>having to find a way to get him to do his bank
>business since I don't have a car. I have problems
>that don't include sitting online all day making up
>names just to upset you. Even if I did have the time
>to do that, I wouldn't do it, because contrary to what
>you might think I'm not that kind of person. As I
>said, I did say what I said on the Yahoo group, even
>though I should have used my brains and kept my mouth
>shut. I should know better at my age and I'm kicking
>myself for doing so. As I said before, if you have
>problems with the American wank as you put it or
>wankers or whatever you said, it escapes me at the
>moment, why don't you just have it out with them
>properly. I'm sure the email addresses you have for
>Don haven't changed or Kerry for that matter. From
>here on out, please put your personal comments to me
>in an email. If I am allowed to, I will answer it. Why
>do you insist on doing things in a public forum?
>
>I do apologize again for the words I used on the Yahoo
>group. I'm sorry if the post was inflammatory, that
>wasn't my intention, even though as I keep repeating,
>I am an idiot and should have known better. I would
>ask you for the sake of our former friendship that you
>please leave me alone and stop making untrue
>accusations against me on this forum. I have many
>problems, as we all have and I would like to be left
>alone to deal with them. I can assure you that I will
>never post again on this forum or the Yahoo one. I've
>been silenced and it's all for the best as I am the
>biggest idiot in the world for ever having said that
>or anything else on here or on any Lizzy group. I
>would also ask you that if, after all I've said, you
>still have something to say to me, also for the sake
>of our former friendship, I would ask you to please
>email me as it is very embarrassing to have to say
>these things in a public forum but since I have to, I
>wiil. I will also repeat as many times as I have to,
>as I have repeated everything else, that I am not
>Eris, Old Flame, or whatever the name du jour is. The
>only thing I will say on that subject is that you need
>to look to someone in the UK for the answer to who
>that is and I base that strictly on the ISP. I asked
>my husband about it, (he's a computer systems analyst)
>and he explained to me why it wouldn't be feasible for
>someone from the US to be doing the postings. Whether
>that is the case about the posts made from NoHost I
>can't be sure and haven't asked him but those postings
>were NOT MADE BY ME. As I said before, for the sake of
>our former friendship, leave me out of all this. It's
>very upsetting, and unncessary. If you need to vent,
>then put it into an email and do the same to Don and
>to Kerry. I know Don through a mutual friend on the
>net, a huge Thin Lizzy fan and Kerry I've hardly
>spoken to (on ICQ only) and certainly not by phone. I
>don't know why I'm doing this and repeating all this,
>but I guess I feel that if I say it enough times, then
>it will sink in and you will kindly leave me alone and
>that you will take your problems with other people to
>the source of those problems.
>
>I'm asking you to stop this, and treat me like you
>would like to be treated. With some respect as a human
>being, a Thin Lizzy fan and someone who knew them
>when, and as a former friend. That's all I'm asking
>for. I do realize that I should have never said
>anything on that group or any other, but my head is
>not in the place to think clearly lately and I make
>mistakes, as we all do. For that again, I am sorry.
>Maybe I am resorting to being a typical woman, but I
>am sitting here crying because I know I made a mess of
>my answer and I'm sure it didn't come out as I had
>intended but I can assure you it was heartfelt. You
>would not want anyone in your family spoken to like
>this and accused of these untruths, so I ask the same
>courtesy from you. Again, and again, I am not any of
>those people you name, or posting as them or Don or
>Kerry or anyone else on here.
>
>Very Sincerely,
>
>Sandie Salvucci Gibson
>
>PS to the "person" who called themselves Leilah, (a
>name I have used on occasion on this board and others,
>I do admit to that), who asked who's Sandie Salvucci
>Gibson, is she a record producer and the other bits
>you asked, you know damn right well who I am. I'm not
>anyone you need to ask anything about. No, I'm not a
>record producer or anything of the kind. I was and am
>a writer and I used to write about rock bands. I don't
>know why I'm addressing you either, but if you had any
>guts you'd email me privately. You're a troll who
>likes to mix it up. Please don't use my name on here
>anymore.

I'm sorry that I didn't mention this before, since this will require another posting on here and I also apologize for the length of the previous post. I did want to mention, as I have before, that my postings will always be from comcast.net and the Pennsauken in the name is clearly displayed. I have previously posted here from AOL so that is why that would have appeared in my name at various times in the past, but any recent posting has been made from comcast.net and not from AOL. Since I would assume, Phil, that you have access to previous posts being a moderator of the board, I would suggest that you look at the ISP's of those you have accused me of being and see what their ISP's are. I don't remember what all of their ISP's were, only the tiscali.net and the nohost ones. I'm ignorant of how to post from different ISPs and since I only have access to one computer in this house, (and all of our computers are on comcast.net, that is our ISP), I would have no way to post from another computer, especially as I don't work outside the home at present. I also don't use any of the computers at our local library, as I haven't been there in over a year.

So again, I'm appealing to you to stop the accusations and to deal with your problems with other people directly with them. And also again, I'm appealing to you to deal with whatever problems you have with me via email. Or snail mail if you would prefer. I posted my address on the Yahoo group so it's there for the world to see. If that can't be done, then please again, leave me alone. I would sincerely appreciate that, Phil.

Sincerely,

Sandie Salvucci Gibson

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