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Subject: Re: Book of Job- Theodicy


Author:
Robert Sutherland
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Date Posted: 18:01:50 05/29/04 Sat
In reply to: Iwillgonow 's message, "Re: Book of Job- Theodicy" on 16:36:10 05/29/04 Sat

The meaning of the Book of Job is that:

1. man has a right to know the reason behind evil in the world,

2. God has a duty to give that answer,

3. that duty is nuanced such that God does not have to give it here and now, but must give it no later than the Day of the Final Judgment,

4. in the meantime, human beings should not prematurely God for creating some evil in the world, but should wait for the answers that will be forthcoming.

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Date Posted: 22:07:50 06/04/04 Fri

God isn't responsible for sin, for its existance, or for the reason it came into existance, because in order for God to be responsible for sin, He must be held accountable for sin, and it is clearly, plainly stated in the Bible that sin is in no way, shape or form a part of God, or caused because of God, for in Him there is no sin, or creation of sin, period.

To give a reason for sin is to excuse it's existance.

There is no reason for sin. There is no reason to disobey God. That's why it is wrong. There is no justification for transgressing the law of God. None. Ever. Whatsoever.

Sin has no purpose, no cause, no reason. That's why it is sin, that's why it's wrong, and that is why sin will be utterly annihilated from all the universe forevermore, amen.

Here's another way of putting it:

The angels had been created full of goodness and love. They loved one another impartially and their God supremely, and they were prompted by this love to do His pleasure. The law of God was not a grievous yoke to them, but it was their delight to do His commandments, to hearken unto the voice of His Word. But in this state of peace and purity, sin originated with him who had been perfect in all his ways. The prophet writes of him: "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness." Sin is a mysterious, unexplainable thing. There was no reason for its existence; to seek to explain it is to seek to give a reason for it, and that would be to justify it. Sin appeared in a perfect universe, a thing that was shown to be inexcusable.

God had a knowledge of the events of the future, even before the creation of the world. He did not make His purposes to fit circumstances, but He allowed matters to develop and work out. He did not work to bring about a certain condition of things, but He knew that such a condition would exist. The plan that should be carried out upon the defection of any of the high intelligences of heaven--this is the secret, the mystery which has been hid from ages. And an offering was prepared in the eternal purposes to do the very work which God has done for fallen humanity.

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