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Date Posted: 18:12:40 04/23/12 Mon
Author: Paul Davis
Subject: Re: Strip search for traffic ticket?
In reply to: Greg 's message, "Re: Strip search for traffic ticket?" on 13:52:20 04/17/12 Tue

>>>>>>Just MHO, the SCOTUS has pretty much become
>>>paranoid.
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>>>>>So other than thinking that the SCOTUS is paranoid,
>>>>>what problem do you have with this ruling?
>>>>
>>>>The part of the constitution that says citizens are
>>to
>>>>be secure from unreasonable search and seizure. It
>>is
>>>>unreasonable to declare everyone who has a traffic
>>>>ticket to be suspected of being a drug smuggler,
>>which
>>>>is the only legitimate reason I can think of for a
>>>>strip search. This is going to be used to
>intimidate
>>>>citizens and that will be the primary function.
>From
>>>>this day forwards, it's not "cooperate or we are
>>going
>>>>downtown" it's "cooperate or get stripped and
>>probed".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why are you comfortable with this decision?
>>>
>>>
>>>The safety of the correctional officers is somewhat
>>>more important than the dignity of the person
>>arrested.
>>
>>They seem to have managed OK for the last 200 odd
>>years. What's the new risk that's greater than
>>anything in the past?
>
>
>Lot smaller incarcerated population 200 years ago.
>Drugs weren't the problem.

Yes, nobody worried about drugs, they weren't illegal until after my father was born. It really hasn't been that long and I've never seen the necessity of saving people from themselves with this "burn the village to save it" business. But this is not about either safety or drugs, this is about punishment before you even get charged. It's about making jail an uncomfortable experience to such an extreme that we will cooperate without going to jail. IMHO, its far more likely to result in simple hate for government that has no respect for dignity of the citizens.

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Re: Strip search for traffic ticket? -- Greg, 14:05:59 04/24/12 Tue
- Re: Strip search for traffic ticket? -- Paul Davis, 08:23:56 04/27/12 Fri