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Date Posted: 14:55:30 03/08/07 Thu
Author: nAZARIO mARIN
Subject: Re: maria duval
In reply to: Nazario Marin 's message, "Re: maria duval" on 13:49:03 03/03/07 Sat

>>THE MARIA DUVAL BUSINESS, PART 2 of 2
>>
>>MARKETING METHODS
>>
>>The firms are eager after new customers. They put out
>>announcements in papers and coupon leaflets, and
>>offer a free lucky talisman or a cross of seven
>>wishes, together with a free horoscope, in the name of
>>Maria Duval. If someone replies, (s)he gets the free
>>item, but is then bombarded with a slew of offers for
>>services and goods from Maria Duval and later from
>>other sources too. Thus the curious usually have their
>>first contact with this business when the free
>>talisman is send them. This is a sound marketing
>>practice. The advantages are many:
>>
>>One gets a good database of names and addresses of
>>liable and impulsive people who have interest in
>>astrology, magic, etc. A gift puts a potential
>>customer in a happy mood. The actual offer for sale of
>>horoscopes etc can be targeted to potential customers
>>only. The offer can be very persuasive and one can use
>>suggestions and other powerful but questionable
>>selling methods, like used in Maria Duval letters
>>indeed. Undesired publicity of the offer and marketing
>>methods can mainly be avoided, for example from the
>>side of pro consumer agencies.
>>
>>The advertisements sometimes contain a short
>>questionary. The customer has to mark some questions
>>with yes/no, write a wish for her/his greatest hope
>>and another one for the removal of her/his greatest
>>burden. I think that the firms use the questions in
>>order to find the most lucrative setup of marketing
>>letters.
>>
>>There is a www.mariaduval.com website, passive in
>>nature, that gives some background information on
>>Maria Duval in several languages. The claims there are
>>still claims and not independently verified proof,
>>journal clippings possibly excluded. Another form of
>>customer service are contact phone numbers, telefax
>>numbers and e-mail addresses. It seems that somewhere,
>>like Finland and Sweden, the phone and fax numbers are
>>free, their use don't cost a cent. It seems the
>>business runs as smoothly as ever!
>>
>>I have seen signs and changes in marketing, which to
>>my mind are direct reactions to criticism in internet,
>>a kind of evolution. In any normal business it would
>>be called better customer service, giving the customer
>>a better value for her/his money, but here? I have an
>>other opinion...
>>
>>The firms sometimes promise to return the money of
>>dissatisfied customers if the customer returns the
>>goods. This is required by legislation. It seems that
>>some get their money back, some don't.
>>
>>AN ANALYSIS OF THE MARKETING METHODS
>>
>>The Maria Duval letters are certainly worth study for
>>everyone who needs to write oppressive, manipulative,
>>etc text, that is actually cabable of causing angst in
>>reader. One Heke has made a good analysis on the
>>contents of Maria Duval's marketing letters. (You
>>should look what heke means in the Hawaian language. )
>>
>>WORKING TROUGH EMOTIONS is much more effective than
>>working through reason in the marketing of this kind -
>>probably any kind - of goods and services, because our
>>emotional systems are open, easy to influence and
>>defenceless against affectation. Duval feeds solely
>>your emotional needs, there really isn't much for the
>>intellect. Furthermore, even after reading,
>>understanding and accepting this analysis, you are
>>still susceptible to these methods because of the
>>disparity of reason and emotion. Remember it!
>>
>>THE IMPRESSION OF AUTHORITY AND EXPERTICE that Duval
>>strives to achieve, is done first by her
>>self-presentation as the medium and clair-voyant of
>>the Society for Psychic and Parapsychic Research and
>>by claiming exact and true predictions and appearances
>>in numerous radio and television broadcasts, and
>>second by occasional sentences in her letters like
>>"I can give exact and detailed predictions through the
>>combination of astrology, my supernatural skills and
>>psychoanalysis. I have proved this countless times in
>>press and television."
>>"Do you believe that I would endanger my reputation as
>>a famous clair-voyant only because not being
>>completely sincere to you?"
>>
>>PERSONAL STORIES from her own live - or invented -
>>have the purpose of creating a friendly and
>>unsuspecting atmosphere. Duval simply tries to make
>>you drop your guard.
>>"Before my uncle died, who was a knowledgeable
>>clair-voyant and medium too, he gave me three
>>talismans, one for money, second for love and third
>>for luck.
>>(...)
>>Many years later (...) the man that I loved left me.
>>(...) I did remember my dear dead uncle and his
>>talismans. I searched everywhere and finally found
>>them in the attic, in an old cabinet. I choose the
>>talisman of love and took it with me.
>>The next morning I got a call. It was the man who had
>>left me without even giving me a hope of ever seeing
>>him again. He told me that some unusual or mystical
>>power made him miss me and want to meet me.
>>Two weeks later we were together again."
>>
>>THE FOCUSING OF CONSCIOUSNESS at the very beginning of
>>the letter makes you more liable to her suggestions
>>and increases the efficiency of her manipulations.
>>Duval focuses your consciousness by direct suggestions
>>like
>>"I ask you to give me all your attention"
>>"I ask you, heke, to carefully read the content of
>>this letter, because if ..."
>>"It's very important that you read this letter in all
>>its details"
>>
>>THE EMOTIONAL SEESAW simply means the alternation
>>between promises and warnings, positive and negative
>>hints, good and doubting suggestions etc. A cool and
>>detached attitude of the reader is counteractive to
>>Duval's purposes and with this tool she tries to make
>>sawdust out of it. The emotional seesaw creates and
>>increases uncertainty too which comes very handy when
>>she later takes it up to make you dependent.
>>
>>SUGGESTIONS run gamut in Duval's letters. Her
>>carefully chosen words sprinkle over you like water
>>from a fountain. Perhaps you enjoy getting soaked
>>through and trough but don't believe for a single
>>moment that her letters aren't carefully designed
>>tools of manipulation. They are certainly not written
>>spontaneously. Words are her only means to influence
>>you, that is if you don't believe in magic, and with
>>words only she weawes the web and effect of every
>>other means that are discovered is this analysis.
>>
>>A PARADE OF CONTENT CUSTOMERS is one of the basic
>>marketing tools. I have but some doubt, real of
>>imaginary customers?
>>"... I gave my talismans of money and happiness to one
>>of my female friends. She had lost her source of
>>income and was fighting in poverty. A little later her
>>troubles were over. Her bad luck turned into good
>>luck. She got FIM 10 000, and a while later FIM 19 000
>>more. She decided to start a small enterprise, that
>>soon became a success"
>>
>>THE CREATION OF DEPENDENCE is in my mind one of the
>>ugliest tools that Duval uses. You may have perceived
>>how Duval starts her letters so that the balance
>>between good and bad suggestions, or promises and
>>warnings, is in the positive side. The balance is then
>>gradually shifted to the negative, and at the same
>>time Duval poses herself as the only possiibility to
>>ward away all that negativity. In other words, first
>>Duval feeds you with hope, then snatces it away, and
>>finally demands your money for giving it back. Cool!
>>
>>PROMISES OF NEW LETTERS keep your interest up. Duval
>>certainly desires that you would become a good, paying
>>and longtime customer. It works to her advantage too
>>if she can make you wait with expectation and hope for
>>new letters.
>>
>>EXTREME FRIENDLINESS feels so very good, but coming
>>from a total stanger it borders into the unbelievable.
>>Duval's parting words give honey sweet examples:
>>"Heke, I hope to hear soon of You and I send You my
>>hearties greetings.
>>Your trusted friend Maria Duval"
>>"I send from the deep of my heart my whole love and my
>>whole positive energy to You and your nearest. I wait
>>impatiently for your message.
>>With respect Maria Duval"
>>"I really trust You. I wait for your answer and I send
>>You my heartfelt greetings. Your honest and loyal
>>friend Maria Duval"
>>
>>EXAGGERATED PROMISES serve well in igniting your
>>enthusiasm and in converting you to a true fan and
>>believer. You yourself could well use the example
>>below, in self-hypnosis!
>>"Heke, If You get succesfully over this considerable
>>obstacle in your life, a completely new and exciting
>>live awaits You.
>>You don't have to stretch the penny at the end of the
>>month anymore, You don't have to pay back your loans
>>and credits anymore, because You will have as much
>>money as You need and even much more. (Yes, I see very
>>much money for You!)
>>Love and friendship will surround You and You will
>>never again be lonely. You will allways have someone
>>nearby whom You can talk to and whom You can trust.
>>Everything will succeed that you take up. Were You shy
>>and without self-esteem?... You will become a
>>self-assured person with an irresistible charm, You
>>will enchant other people and attract them.
>>Didn't You believe in yourself and in your future? You
>>will see that a shining future awaits You, which will
>>give You self-confidence and fill your mind with
>>happiness and hope"
>>
>>GIFTS are tokens of friendship. Duval's gifts however
>>are marketing tools, their purpose to convince and
>>support you in your decision of accepting Duval as a
>>do-gooder, even friend. She uses them to awaken your
>>greed too:
>>"You will get a unique gift if You answer me. It is a
>>secret, known only to seers, and my masters have
>>allowed me to reveal it now to those people who
>>consult me. (...) It is my destiny here on earth to
>>help those poeple who long for happiness and want to
>>share their happiness with other people too. And I
>>know, that You too Heke belong among the people, and I
>>believe that I can tell You this secret. The secret is
>>a magical object. It supports the effects of the
>>talisman and gives it even a hundredfold power. You
>>get not only more lucky in fortune games, but You get
>>a special protection too. It is like You had an
>>antenna, connecting You and me, and linking you with
>>especially spritualistic forces from beyond that
>>protect us.
>>(...)
>>In addition You get that mysterious gift that I told
>>You a while ago. Decide quickly because I don't have
>>enough of these objects, not for everybody who writes
>>to me."
>>
>>HINTS are open or indeterminate succestions and a very
>>powerful tool. Closed or determinate suggestions can
>>only cover a specified area, but hints however work
>>trough your imagination, and cause you to raise the
>>particular hopes and fears specific to you. What could
>>be more effective?
>>"I told at the beginning of my letter that I see some
>>troubles too. Is there someone in your circle of
>>friends who wishes ill for You? Have You been cursed?
>>I can't tell You more about that now, because I
>>dislike saying out something that is less than 100
>>percent sure. We can prevent however, with the help of
>>my clair-voyant skills, that You would get trapped."
>>
>>ENVY too is within her toolbag. Duval says that
>>famous, wealthy, happy people are just like you. She
>>says this seemingly in order to encourage you, but
>>actually she wants to make you envious of them. It
>>then so happens, like a miracle, that she is able and
>>willing to help you too to get and be the same!
>>Believe that and you are in a trap. Duval really
>>paints a very simplistic picture about the why and how
>>of our destinies here on earth:
>>
>>"You surely know about men and women in your
>>surroundings, who succeed in allmost anything, even
>>when there is nothing special about them. They don't
>>have more diplomas is their pockets, nor are they more
>>intelligent, but still all the success accumulates in
>>their saldo. It seems allnost like everything in their
>>hands would change to gold!...
>>This is as difficult to understand as why men run
>>after certain women. The women have nothing what
>>others don't have too, yet men svarm around them like
>>mosquitos around the lamp.
>>You too might think of succesfull people and wonder:
>>What do they have that I don't? I assure You that
>>these people are just like You, and still they attract
>>luck as much as they desire...
>>Yes, these luckyblessed attract the friendship of
>>those who can give them what they really want: a nice
>>and well paid working occupation, a possibility to get
>>rich, and other things like that... They don't lose
>>one single opportunity which could bring them more
>>money, more love or more joy in live. One could
>>allmost believe that they possess a capability to
>>cause all these enjoyable things to come to them...
>>These men and women operate like magiciens who find
>>water and hidden treasures with their wand. They are
>>like magnets that draw the good things in live to
>>themselves.
>>And I see that You are like these people, You have the
>>same power to happiness. And this power, abiding deep
>>inside you, is fortunately undamaged and only waits
>>awakening!..."
>>
>>WARNINGS that Duval strews here and there are good
>>food for your imagination. Duval uses very often the
>>combination of promises and warnings, or in the
>>language of your emotions, hope and fear.
>>"Dear Heke, the year 2001 means to You the beginning
>>of a new life. It will be much better and much richer
>>live than You now live. I have proofs of it!
>>But You must be carefull Heke! Allthough the year
>>2001, first year of the new millenium, seems to be an
>>especially good year for you, something very strange
>>did happen in May 2000, and it may diminish your
>>chances to get succesfull!..."
>>
>>FEAR isn't such a nice tool at all. Duval actually
>>gives you, now and then, strong and straight negative
>>- and this really is dirty and most ugly use of the
>>power of suggestions, does she want to derail people
>>into depression or worse? - suggestions in her
>>letters. The purpose here is to make her offer of help
>>appear like a release from uncertainty and fear.
>>Actually you would only lose what you never even had,
>>and what existed only in the golden clouds of her
>>promises and your hopes.
>>"No! You can't beat this remarkable obstacle alone...
>>Because of all the troubles that You had in the past,
>>your physical and psychic condition is weak. There is
>>a great danger that You don't manage this transition
>>period well without external help, which would be a
>>real catastrophe.
>>In addition to that, last May You were influenced by a
>>particular negative influence from the stars, that
>>befell on earth when the stars, earth, moon and sun
>>aligned with other five planets. A contribution from
>>this occasion is that your chances of happiness and
>>success dropped even lower.
>>An extraordinary occasion... but in a negative
>sence."
>>
>>COMPANIONSHIP or doing things together characterizes
>>the behaviour of friends. Like trust, relaxation,
>>unguardedness etc that go with friedship, your
>>feelings of companionship makes it so much easier for
>>Duval to cast her influence upon you. So she tries to
>>make herself a companionable friend with:
>>"We'll make it together so, that these capabilities
>>and even gifts that I peceived in You will become your
>>own. Because I can now tell You that You have the rare
>>gift what I call "real might", it's a great inner
>>power which can help You to change your destiny"
>>"Yes, we'll let together this might, your power, to
>>come out and nobody can avoid perceiving it
>>We'll change your destiny. We'll win battles that can
>>remove the obstacles from your way to happiness,
>>well-being and joy of live".
>>
>>PROMISES OF COMPLETE SUPPORT. Yes! You must really be
>>worth gold if the famous Duval so completely puts
>>herself to your help. Only remember that she promises
>>the same to everyone she sends her letters to. You may
>>regognize the following:
>>"I would like to say to you that you can from now on
>>trust that I give my help without any limits when it
>>is the question of how to make the luck step into your
>>live as soon as possible. It really should have been
>>there beside you since long time back."
>>"Heke, I know that It'll be difficult for You to
>>surpass this considerable obstacle in your live alone.
>>Hence I decided to write to You today and offer my
>>many-sided help for free and without limits"
>>"I would like to give all my powers to your use in
>>order to make You a happy and very content man for the
>>rest of your live!"
>>
>>FAKE INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING doesn't only mean the use
>>of 2. singularis addressing mode in a mass produced
>>letter. It means too, that Duval in fact lies when she
>>writes statements that appear to be meant just for
>>you, but actually are found in all her letters of that
>>series.
>>
>>THE CREATION OF THE FEELING OF URGENCY is there for
>>the purpose of making you afraid of missing your
>>unique opportunity. Again and of cause Duval offers to
>>help you and relieve you from fear...
>>"Therefore I would like to tell You once more: Act
>>right now and send me back allready today your coupon
>>that I enclosed with my letter, and which entitles you
>>to my special help. Act now and don't delay any
>>longer. It really is extremely important to You and
>>your future!
>>Time goes by, Heke, and I'm afraid that soon it'll be
>>too late if You don't act immediately."
>>"PS I would like to poin out once more that most
>>propably You won't ever again get a corresponding
>>opportunity to change your life. You have the luck to
>>step into the new millenium. The next occasion will
>>happen... after one thousand years!
>>Hence act now, even for your own good."
>>
>>MEGALOMANIA alias outswelled ego works well as a kind
>>of safequard against you coming to other thoughts
>>about Maria Duval and her activities. The more energy,
>>assosiations, parts of self-image, emotions, habitual
>>thinking patterns etc that become bound with Duval in
>>your mind, the stronger the safequard grows, the more
>>difficult will it be for you to have a free uncolored
>>understanding about Duval and the more painfull the
>>eventual ego crash.
>>" Taking into consideration what I have seen, I can
>>tell You right now that your case is one of the most
>>amazing that have came my way for a long time. I can
>>reveal to You that your case is one of the most
>>interesting that I have bumped against for a long
>>time."
>>"Some of your vibrations indicate to me that there are
>>deep within You latent abilities and powers that can
>>change your whole life"
>>
>>REVEALING AND ENTRUSTING SECRETS characterizes the
>>behaviour of good, trusting and trusted friends. Duval
>>tries in so many ways, and this way too, to create the
>>appearance of friendship and trust between you and
>>herseff, which she later utilizes for her own
>>purposes. Secrets and mystery are rather exciting as
>>such too.
>>"In addition I will send You a collection of The
>>extraordinary secrets of White Macig. I received it
>>directly from my Great Spiritual Master, who lived a
>>long time ago. He/She took a telepathic contact with
>>me, so that I could transmit this message to those
>>persons whom I guide and protect against the negative
>>effects of May fifth, and whom I help to find their
>>happiness. The Spiritual Leaders of the humankind say
>>that the collection is the best antidote to any
>>negative forces that lead people to deeper plight."
>>
>>DISCOUNT PRICES, apparently offered especially for
>>you, might make you take her offer. The discount
>>however is there for all, it's simply one of her many
>>tools in getting your money. I'll give you some sweet
>>examples:
>>"I admit that I charge high prices for my services.
>>Yet I don't want money to become an obstacle between
>>us. For this reason I give You a special offer for
>>your Future Horoscope and your Lucky Calendar"
>>"The normal price for my help is FIM 400.But because I
>>have seen that You haven't had it very easy in your
>>live, I'm ready to meet You partway. If You send the
>>filled coupon within 48 hours, I'ill give You a FIM
>>100 discount. Yes, You got ir right: You only pay FIM
>>300 for your secret formulas and not the normal FIM
>>400. You have to admit that I really do everything in
>>order to help you."
>>
>>RECIPROCAL BEHAVIOR means that if Duval does something
>>for you then you need to do something for her,
>>otherwise you would self-feel like a despicable
>>opportunist. You feel that you owe her something for
>>that free amulet, don't you? Duval also stirs
>>reciprocal feelings in you with sentences like:
>>" I will help You. I have allready told the future
>>from the stars. On my desk I have now a readymade
>>first aid package for your future."
>>
>>The analysis ends here. It loads all upon Maria Duval,
>>but the involved firms are probably more responsible.
>>Only very intelligent, perceptive and professional add
>>writers (with a sodden moral!) have the skill to write
>>like that!
>>
>>GOODS AND SERVICES
>>
>>The firms offer at least following goods and services:
>>
>>- the free lucky talisman. It is a piece of stiff
>>card, on one side some figures on a golden background,
>>on the other a picture of Maria Duval's face
>>- a free cross of seven wishes
>>- six month horoscopes. They are automatic printouts
>>from a computer program.
>>- tarot interpretations. They are automatic computer
>>printouts.
>>- 90 days personal positive psychomagnetic course
>>- slim booklets that contain simple magic tutorials,
>>and instructions of health tonics or drinks
>>- magical seremonies and other occult actions
>>- initiation done by Maria Duval
>>- talismans or amulets for good luck, like.a celtic
>>circle of life, a talisman with herbs inside, or a
>>pentagram
>>- small magical or occult items like a ring designed
>>by the good people of Atlantis
>>- bad smelling parfymes
>>
>>It is certainly possible that some goods, or rather
>>the knowledge involved, which is magical lore,
>>formulas, design of the courses, descriptions for
>>tonics and potions, instructions, spells etc, come
>>originally from Maria Duval. The practical arrangement
>>is naturally that the firms get everything out of
>>their computers and subcontractors.
>>
>>LOGISTICS
>>
>>Over two million people have got at least that free
>>amulet and about 10 - 40% seem to actually buy
>>something too!. Massproduction is necessary perforce.
>>
>>The involved firms send their offerings allways in the
>>native language of a potential customer. They have to
>>use translators which is costly. Individual letters
>>mean individual translations mean no money flows home.
>>This is one more reason why the Maria Duval letters,
>>offers, horoscopes, courses, and whatever have to be
>>massproduced, possibly with a standard body plus
>>automated variation and personalisation. Some messages
>>confirm that the marketing letters are indeed
>>identical, newer mind their fake personalized style.
>>The letters promise individual services, like personal
>>initiations, programming of personal amulets, direct
>>mental or astral influence fron Maria Duval on behalf
>>of the customer, etc... The great number of customers
>>make these promises rather untrustworthy.
>>
>>Many people have written that nobody ever answers any
>>personal letters. It is only too easy to understand
>>why, because first, the number of customers is nearly
>>two million and second, the customer's personal
>>letters are not read by Maria Duval, but by some
>>office clerk employed by the involved firms, and most
>>often, by nobody. Sometimes the involved firms ask
>>short desciptions from customers, about how it goes
>>with them. It seems they use the descriptions in order
>>to get material for the testimonials section of
>>www.mariaduval.com.
>>
>>The reasoning above means that a customer only gets
>>what unpersonal and massproduced material the firms
>>send, like computer generated automatic astrological
>>interpretations, no individually programmed amulets,
>>no magical seremonies performed for the customer's
>>personal benefit, no individual occult influences from
>>Maria Duval, etc... When we contrast that with the
>>personal promises in the marketing letters, we see the
>>lies and cheating that the firms perform.
>>
>>AUTHORITIES ARE NOT HAPPY
>>
>>It certainly is no big news that this business has
>>gotten itself in dire staits with authorities. There
>>have been, there are and will be several complaints
>>aginst the involved firms. The internet knows the
>>following cases. There must be more because not every
>>case is reported in internet.
>>
>>The International Consumer Protection and Enforcement
>>Network (ICPEN) decided by autumn 2003 to act in the
>>case of Maria Duval's marketing methods. ICPEN
>>characterized the marketing as clearly unbearable,
>>scaring, oppressing, missleading, threatening and
>>insulting. It violates marketing legislation and good
>>business practices as defined by international
>>organizations of commerce. The Swedish
>>Konsumentverket, in her role then as the chairman in
>>ICPEN Europe, initiatiated a coordinated european
>>action against the marketing practices.
>>Konsumentverket demanded first that illegal marketing
>>is stopped. This demand was sent to all addresses that
>>distribute the marketing means. The second stage was
>>that the authorities in each involved country wrote to
>>the firms and the media was made aware of the illegal
>>campaigns. The results of these primary actions were
>>planned to be analysed in the third stage and the
>>decision was to be made what other actions were
>>necessary in order to stop this marketing.
>>
>>In New York, USA, the BBB (Better Business Bureau)
>>issued June 1996 a consumer alert regarding the
>>National Parapsychology Center adverticing the
>>services of Maria Duval. There were complaints that
>>consumer expectations were unfullfilled, or that the
>>consumers didn't get their money back. An interesting
>>sideline is that if a customer wanted to have a more
>>detailed information than the 8 pages of the initial
>>contact, she had to send a photo or some hair, plus 27
>>to 70 dollars!
>>
>>Customers have complained to Italian customer
>>authorities in September 2000 and November 2000 about
>>Duval's misleading marketing practices etc. The
>>complaits were found to be justified.
>>
>>The British ASA authority has received and adjudicated
>>on three complaints against Astroforce Ltd t/a Maria
>>Duval, in December 1999, March 2000 and November 2000.
>>The complaints were about misleading marketing, and in
>>main successfull.
>>
>>The Harmonie Ltd operated 1999-2002 in Australia using
>>the names Astroforce, Maria Duval and Marie France.
>>Their scam operation was investigated and then closed
>>down by Australian authorities when enough customers
>>complained. The authorities legally intercepted
>>customer's recent letters and returned their money.
>>The Harmonie Ltd was ordered to refund all customers
>>who asked it.
>>
>>EVEN IN A BOOK
>>
>>Armando Pavese, a researcher on the psychological
>>motivations relating to magic, spiritism and occultism
>>has authored a book, called The black book of magic,
>>in which he puts the medium Marie Duval in the same
>>camp with the wizards, swindlers and quackers of
>>todays' Italy. The language of the book is italian.
>>
>>MARIA DUVAL
>>
>>There really is a Maria Duval, a witch, voyant,
>>business woman, you name it! The involved firms claim
>>that Maria Duval was born into a family, which belongs
>>to the nobility, and whose members have served the
>>french kings. She herself is a countess. She made her
>>first miracle healing at the age of 8 years, etc...
>>There are such nicely dramatic and emotional elements
>>in the information what the firms present about Maria
>>Duval, that it makes one doubt the truthfullness of
>>the whole lot, especially when we remember how the
>>firms lie and seek to manipulate the customers in
>>their marketing. There is no independent information
>>in internet that confirms these claims.
>>
>>Maria Duval is the author of several books, well over
>>twenty in number. She has used at least her own name
>>and the alias Anne Cramford. The books are published
>>in many languages. Some typical titles are The Grand
>>book of secrets, The Grand secret manual of the
>>initiates, the Grand consultation of the tarot, How to
>>become a voyant, The Secrets and techniques of success
>>and power, etc.
>>
>>Maria Duval was born 1937 as Carolina Maria Gamba in
>>Milano, Italy. She is now a citicen in France. She has
>>at least some fame outside this business too. It seems
>>her career really lifted when she predicted the winner
>>right in some bygone french presidential elections.
>>Once she found the lost dog of Brigitte Bardot, and
>>Ralf Schumacher believes in a bad smelling amulet from
>>Maria Duval. The last two are rather funny bits of
>>data, but they indicate presense, past fame and bygone
>>reputation in the european sky of magicmakers and
>>seers. To use that past fame and reputation to start
>>a business is well understandable. Not so are the
>>methods, the brutal manipulation and lies, that this
>>business uses. In my opinion, this whole business is
>>driven by an insatiable greed.
>>
>>Well, at least Maria Duval seems to be rather rich
>>nowdays, and have three homes: in Argentina, in Swiss
>>Lausanne and in French Callas. Her Argentina home is
>>said to be a whole ranch, whose address is but
>>unknown. The Lausanne address is unknown too. The
>>Callas address is Quai Quatre Chemins, 83830 Callas,
>>France.
>>
>>In an interview for Danish television, Maria Duval is
>>reported to have said that she has nothing to do with
>>this business, neither knows anything about it. This
>>reminds me about and old proverb, which says that even
>>rats leave a sinking ship. It is hard to believe that
>>she spoke the truth, because she started this whole
>>business. She also travels far and wide promoting the
>>business. By report she appeared in Finland over a
>>year ago, arranged a press meeting, presented some
>>horoscope interpretations on their President Halonen,
>>etc... Soon thereafter there appeared nationwide
>>advertisements about her and that free talisman
>offer.
>>
>>Maria Duval meets hundreds of clients face to face
>>too. This her "luck by mail order" business is sure to
>>come up. She herself must have seen the advertisements
>>here and there too. Furthermore our messages exist in
>>internet since a good time already, and she must have
>>got lots of questions about if it's true what we say
>>there.
>>
>>Probably nobody but Maria Duval herself is ready to
>>believe that the involved firms can use her face, name
>>and fame in their marketing like they do, without an
>>agreement with her. She also owns the Maria duval
>>trademarks.
>>
>>Jacques Mailland explained once in an interview that
>>"Maria distributes the free talismans in order to tell
>>the world that she exists, and is here to help and
>>heal those who seek help. Her local agents in foreign
>>countries take care of the practical business; Maria
>>does not personally send any letters, nor does she see
>>the answers. The Danish or Scandinavian local agent
>>Kaj Hvolgaard has now and then invited querysome
>>journalists to visit France and Maria Duval together
>>with him, so that they could chat with her personally
>>
>>These facts clearly prove Maria Duval's presence and
>>involvement in this business even today, allthough and
>>for unknown reasons, she has sold this business to the
>>firm Harmonie Ltd. This meant selling your names,
>>addressess, data on who has bought what, the rights to
>>use her name and face in advertising, the rights to
>>sell her goods, and an arrangement of some travels and
>>work to promote the firm. She may even get a fixed
>>percent of the income. It is unknown, if Maria Duval
>>is one of the owners of the Harmonie Ltd.
>>
>>RECOMMENDATIONS
>>
>>The internet material make the situation rather clear.
>>This is simply a business, not a helping hand from
>>Maria Duval. There are very few voices who say
>>someting else, and they are not very convincing. I
>>feel that these recommendations, copied from diverse
>>messages in the German Aerger Forum, are sound enough.
>>
>>If you really need help, please go and seek it
>>elsewhere, through a personal contact with a suitable
>>person. The more you need help, the more prone you are
>>to fall into the lies and manipulation that will be
>>worked upon you by this business. If you are after
>>magical help and tools in order to make your life
>>better, that is all right by me. The internet and
>>public libraries are full of free material, that you
>>can experiment with. You will even find in Kevin
>>Harringtongs site, and for free, some of the Maria
>>Duval material that the firms send to paying
>>customers. You can allways pay the firms later if you
>>find the material useful.
>>
>>The people in this business really try very hard to
>>ignite your enthusiasm and to hook you when they
>>design the Maria Duval letters, and they are good at
>>it too. If you allready happen to be in an Astroforce
>>mailing list, the following few recommendations are
>>for you. You may simply throw away all letters as soon
>>as you get them, without reading them. This easily
>>protects you from the manipulation in the letters. If
>>your curiosity get overhand then show the letters to a
>>friend for a neutral opinion. Compare your letters to
>>what others have received whenever possible. Wait at
>>least a week after receiving a letter and let yourself
>>cool down until you decide or do anything. Then decide
>>to do nothing. Don't let the "warnings" or time limits
>>uppset you. One simply tries to hook you with them.
>>Remember that the letters are massproduction after all
>>and not personal.
>>
>>The various european preference services offer
>>protection for consumers who don't want mailings from
>>direct marketing firms. Most european countries have
>>preference services for mail, phone and/or fax. An
>>email preference service has been set up at a global
>>level, with the ability for national portals.
>>Preference service means, that you can contact the
>>national organisation for this service, and tell them
>>to add your name to the list of people, who don't want
>>to receive any direct marketing mailings. Most
>>civilized list brokers and direct marketing firms
>>respect the customer preference, when expressed in
>>these so called Robinson lists, and filter you out of
>>their mailing lists. (mind you, only filter, not
>>remove!) You must inform the preference servises in
>>every country, where disturbing post is send to you.
>>
>>The Federation of European Direct Marketing, FEDMA,
>>www.fedma.org, knows the existing procedures and
>>contact points in European countries. However, they
>>have so far released in internet only a summary with
>>no useful data to the customer! So you have to contact
>>FEDMA in person, and request the names, addresses, etc
>>of the national preference services, which you need to
>>inform about your preference of NOT wanting any direct
>>marketing mailings. The FEDMA offices are in Belgium
>>and he person to contact is Margrethe Saxegaard PR and
>>Communications Manager, msaxegaard@fedma.org , phone
>>32 2 776 03 91
>>
>>The www.junkbusters.com site is a very good place to
>>visit too. It offers good information on your rights,
>>legal aspects and what to do if you get dissatisfied.

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