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>Of course. > >The ISBN for 'The Thief, the Cross, and the Wheel' is >0226520153. I've checked amazon.com and they have it >in stock. You can find book info and several reviews >at this page: > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/022652015 >3/qid=1031844895/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-3603246-7935819? >v=glance&s=books&n=22 > >The other one is a little tricky, as it has been out >of print for years. The author, I remembered, is a >guy named John Swain. There are, however, several >used copies of it, ranging in editions from the 1930s >through the 50s, in various states of disrepair, at >amazon.com as well. If you go to the page below, it >should bring up a search on it, and give you all the >options available: > >http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/search-handle-url/ix%3 >Dfixed-price%26fqp%3Dkeywords%01The%20Pleasures%20of%20 >the%20Torture%20Chamber/103-3603246-7935819 > >I hope these are of some help! > >-Matt > > > > > >>Matt, >> >>Thanks for your help, could you possibly provide the >>ISBN numbers for these books. >> >>This is the kind of collaboration that I hope would >>happen with this message service. >> >>John WIneland >> >> >> >>>Oh, almost forgot to mention. One other great book. > >>> >>>The Thief, the Cross and the Wheel: Pain and the >>>Spectacle of Punishment in Medieval and Renaissance >>>Europe >>> >>>by Mitch Merback. He gives particular emphasis to >the >>>Christian/Western methods of torture, and draws some >>>religious connotations stemming back to the >>>crucifixion of Christ, as well. It's not a cheap >>>book, though. I think I shelled out $30.00 for it, >>>and that was at a local used bookseller that is >famous >>>for slashing its prices to meet the demands of >>>penny-pinching college students. But if you can get >a >>>copy of it, it's another great resource.

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