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Date Posted: 07:00:34 10/01/02 Tue
Author: Harv
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 207.165.164.3
Subject: Re: Neon Deion Rule Redux
In reply to: Theo 's message, "Neon Deion Rule Redux" on 06:27:00 10/01/02 Tue

Are you trying to expand your margin of victory? When you have a defensive player on the Eagles, you always have to be ready for Andy Reid's bag of tricks. Anyway, the discussion on this (which consisted of me and Jason with input from Mock) was that since it was from a special teams formation, the TD counts but the yards and catch don't. Rule 218, section 2, addendum 2, paragraph 3 states that "special teams points" and the side of the ball the player plays on count. The pros for counting the TD would be that it was from a special teams formation, the punter was on the field, and if the ball would have been fumbled by the punter or the returner and Dawkins would have taken it to the endzone, it would have counted. The only argument against the TD points would be that offensive stats were a part of the play. This is the fantasy league version of the "tuck rule". Either way, the rule will need to be refined. If this were an offensive player, I assume he would have gotten credit for everything. So, can defensive players only get credit for special teams' TDs? Another interesting scenario: If Champ Bailey would have fumbled a fake punt run, would he have lost two points because it was offensive rush yardage? I know we gave Brett back the two points because it was clearly an offensive play, which makes sense. My take on this is that Neon Deion is long gone, and this rule needs to go and all points scored by a player count during the course of the game. Obviously, it's too late for Dawkins' catch and yardage to count, but this is so rare now that the owner should be rewarded for glitches like this. All it would do is slightly raise the stock of a few cornerbacks. What does anyone else think?


>Just a scoring question: Does the Brian Dawkins
>touchdown count even though he's a defensive player
>because the play was run from punt formation?
>Assuming the Deion Sanders rule is still in effect,
>players can only score points while playing the
>position for which they are drafted. But we've usually
>made an exception for special teams (e.g., if you
>drafted Sanders as a DB, you wouldn't score points for
>a touchdown he scored as a wide receiver, but you
>WOULD get points for a punt return for a TD).
>
>Are we saying the same thing for non-return special
>teams plays as well? That is, do we count Dawkins' TD
>because it happened when the Eagles were lined up to
>punt (even though they didn't), but if he had been
>lined up as an extra tight end in a normal fourth down
>situation and caught a TD pass, it wouldn't count?
>
>Just for the record, I've got no problem with
>interpreting the rule this way. I just want to make
>sure it's clear for future reference. Even with his
>glitches, Mike can't beat me, so it's all sort of a
>moot point.
>
>theo

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