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Subject: Re: More thoughts...


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Ammie
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Date Posted: 08:59:35 06/26/03 Thu
In reply to: Natsuki 's message, "More thoughts..." on 10:31:51 06/12/03 Thu

>I know
>that someone (you?) wrote a fic where the ending of TB
>was different, and I've been considering a similar
>idea -- but the execution needs a bit of work still.

*shakes head* Not my fic. I've read one or two like that, where either the premise or the ending of TB was different (like, Hokuto is the Head of the clan and whatnot).
And hey, tell us when you've done your fic. I'd like to read it. ^_^

>Plus it's just plain fun to discuss the TB characters!

Damn straight! :D

>She did, but then she also seemed to be making a few
>choices for him that weren't just little things like
>clothing, etc -- such as not telling him her
>suspicions about Seishirou.

Because she wanted Subaru to make up his own mind about Seishirou. I get where you're coming from - Hokuto match-making the two of them. But I feel like it would have been just as controlling of her to say "sorry Subby, he's a bad man & you shouldn't see him any more".

>Of course, it might have
>been her giving Seishirou a chance

Quite probably, at least as far as her flashback scene in X goes. In TB it was more that she wanted Subaru to be attached to someone, whoever it might be.

>>I hasten to add, she would always leave the final
>>decision up to him. Hokuto gave him lots of
>>encouragement, but made him make up his own mind.
>
>Ooh! Specific examples? I couldn't find any... :/ Of
>course, it's been a while since I looked veryvery
>hard. It was just my impression.

The main example is at the very end when she said to Subby (in their last scene together!!!! *sob* ;_;) "what does Subaru Sumeragi think about Seishirou Sakurazuka?"

>That's probably the best and simplest way I've heard
>it put. I wonder whether it really was all for
>Subaru's sake, though; in some ways, I really do think
>that Hokuto loved Seishirou as well. Damned Sumeragi
>twin over-sweetness? ;) Either way, she
>liked/loved/trusted (?) him enough to try to give him
>another chance and tried to satisfy the Damned Tree at
>the same time.

Agreed. Subaru was happy with it being the three of them, and so was Hokuto. Seishirou denies all. ^_~

>Hmm. I like that interpretation a lot better than my
>own, actually. Again, it was my impression that she
>made a lot of decisions (ie, to keep him innocent and
>naive, perhaps) for him... but hey, I'm more than
>willing to be proven wrong with the right evidence and
>arguments!

Actually, I felt more as if Hokuto was wanting Subaru to grow and change. At least so far as the "he should be attached to something in this life, something for himself" thing goes.

>I think it'd be interesting if it really were a
>perception-of-self thing... what she feels most
>comfortable/herself in is that. TB does seem to be a
>great deal about the masks we wear, and while I know
>that Hokuto wore the style she did because she loved
>it, loved the colour, loved being different, it might
>have been something she did, again, for Subaru -- so
>that the one who truly was the stranger of the two
>/wouldn't be seen as such/?

Oh wow, good point! ^_^ I never thought about it, but Hokuto's clothes were the mask she used (just as the gloves were for Subby and the glasses were for Seishirou).

>It really did seem as though we got to see a very
>different side of Hokuto when she spoke to Kakyou. In
>itself... it's fascinating just to see the contrast
>and similarity.

Uh, yes! I was suprised at what she said to him - I didn't realise just how much she worried about Subaru. It was almost as if she felt guilty, which I never got from TB.

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