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Subject: More thoughts...


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Natsuki
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Date Posted: 10:31:51 06/12/03 Thu
In reply to: Ammie 's message, "Re: Thoughts on Hokuto as a character" on 08:10:41 06/12/03 Thu

>^______^ Yay, some positive feedback for a change. I
>was beginning to think that this place had a
>reputation of being filled with anti-YAOI Big Four
>haters.
>Anyway, GREAT topic, thankyou.

*beam* I need some insight into her character, and I thought this might be the best place to get it! I know that someone (you?) wrote a fic where the ending of TB was different, and I've been considering a similar idea -- but the execution needs a bit of work still. Plus it's just plain fun to discuss the TB characters!

>I'd agree with that. Hokuto has a very parental
>attitude to Subby - even to the extent of telling him
>to live his own life, but then comforting him when it
>doesn't work out (sort of thing: I'm generalising
>here).

She did, but then she also seemed to be making a few choices for him that weren't just little things like clothing, etc -- such as not telling him her suspicions about Seishirou. Of course, it might have been her giving Seishirou a chance; it always seemed to me that she thought that if anyone could awaken feelings/love/what-have-you in Sei-chan, it would be her brother simply because of his purity (which makes his current situation all the more ironic, given that she played an integral part in Seishirou's death... oops.)

>I hasten to add, she would always leave the final
>decision up to him. Hokuto gave him lots of
>encouragement, but made him make up his own mind.

Ooh! Specific examples? I couldn't find any... :/ Of course, it's been a while since I looked veryvery hard. It was just my impression.

>I know others agree with me here: Hokuto was selfish.
>In the choice between living without Subby or Subby
>living without her, she chose the latter.

That's probably the best and simplest way I've heard it put. I wonder whether it really was all for Subaru's sake, though; in some ways, I really do think that Hokuto loved Seishirou as well. Damned Sumeragi twin over-sweetness? ;) Either way, she liked/loved/trusted (?) him enough to try to give him another chance and tried to satisfy the Damned Tree at the same time.

>Oh, heheheh. Seems as if you think the opposite to me.
>^_^ Yes, Hokuto is very overbearing, outgoing, loud,
>etc. I also saw her never interfering with Subby's
>work, supporting him when there was nothing she could
>do but give words of comfort, pushing him to find
>something for himself, something to be attached
>to that was his alone.

Hmm. I like that interpretation a lot better than my own, actually. Again, it was my impression that she made a lot of decisions (ie, to keep him innocent and naive, perhaps) for him... but hey, I'm more than willing to be proven wrong with the right evidence and arguments!

>ARGH! I want to know! I'm still assuming those were
>her pyjamas, but were they or not? someone
>heeeeeeeeeeeelp! Chinese-style clothes as PJs are
>weird (although, this is Hokuto we're talking about)
>so were they PJs?
>*beats head against wall*

I think it'd be interesting if it really were a perception-of-self thing... what she feels most comfortable/herself in is that. TB does seem to be a great deal about the masks we wear, and while I know that Hokuto wore the style she did because she loved it, loved the colour, loved being different, it might have been something she did, again, for Subaru -- so that the one who truly was the stranger of the two /wouldn't be seen as such/?

It really did seem as though we got to see a very different side of Hokuto when she spoke to Kakyou. In itself... it's fascinating just to see the contrast and similarity.

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