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Date Posted: 05:41:30 01/26/05 Wed
Author: Neil
Subject: Re: An easy method to induce an obe
In reply to: Ren 's message, "An easy method to induce an obe" on 19:59:31 01/25/05 Tue

Warning, some drugs may help some spiritual experience but taking an overdoes can be harmful to both the body and abuse the spirit, so be very careful and try the natural way to obe or other spiritual experiences rather than putting yourself at risk.
Neil

>I have found a method that can easily send you into
>astral projection or out of body. All you have to do
>is simply take a few sleeping pills.
> I took ten Unison gel tabs (consists of gravol and
>benidryl) for somthing to do about 11 years ago and it
>was the strangest experience I have been through. For
>one thing, you were only supposed to take one gel tab
>to help you get to sleep but I just popped seven for
>somthing to. (if you remember the things you did back
>when you were 16)
>
>While I was sitting there on my couch about 45 minutes
>after I took them I became very lazy and felt like my
>body was in this numb state. I felt tired but yet
>couldnt really get into a full sleep. I started
>dreaming, but I was awake when I was dreaming. They
>were more like hallucinations and I would wake myself
>back up. I kept thinking I was hearing people talking
>and loud buzzing noises and after a few minutes of
>listening to everything around me, I shot up out of my
>body. I looked around and realized I was floating, so
>I looked down and seen my own body and freaked out
>thinking that I had died. Immedietely I slammed back
>into my body and sat there wondering what the hell had
>happened. Again I went back into that aware dreamstate
>from the unisom until 3 hours later when I started
>snapping out of it.
>
>I didn't know that what I had was an out-of-body
>experience and htat I wasnt overdosing on unisom and
>almost died until 5 years later, which now I dont
>really think is possible, but seeing my body below me
>was pretty convincing.
>
>Anyway, when I looked on the net, there was a vast
>amount of message boards with people asking or telling
>their method for inducing OBE. I tried a few things
>but nothing I tried worked. They just took too much
>concentration and I would easily get bored with trying.
>
>Just to experiment I decided to try the Unison again
>(this time only taking 8) and when it started kicking
>in I started getting that heavy lazy feeling again,
>then I felt myselft getting lighter, lighter and I
>thought "I cant believe it its working again!" but I
>couldnt float any further. It was like somthing was
>holding me back and I think it was myself getting
>really excited about what was happening and focusing
>on it rather than just letting it happen. After that I
>could only get so far into it. I would hear the
>noises, but couldnt seem to pull myself out.
> I have not tried the method again because really,
>taking a bunch of sleeping pills is pretty foolish and
>you feel groggy the next day. Besides there were drugs
>I liked much better. Now that I am clean and have a
>family, I especially wouldnt take it, even if it is
>just a few sleeping pills.
> I am not saying at all it is a good idea for you to
>try it. But what I am saying is that if you are one of
>those people that are constantly trying to have an
>out-of-body experience (and there is a lot of them), I
>gaurantee that this method can induce an OBE if you
>can keep your mind clear when doing it. If you never
>had one before, this should bring you closer than ever.
>
>Another drug a couple friends of mine told me sent
>them into astral projection was LSD. One guy said he
>was standing by the roadside alone when he just got
>the strangest idea that if he wanted to, he could fly
>up to the stars. Next thing he knew, he said he was
>rising at a tremendous speed. He stopped himself
>airborne and looked down. He was so far up he could
>see the landscape of Earth. Suddenly all this
>information was opened up to him about everything.
>Thats when he said he remembered he was on acid, and
>instantly was back in his body. He said that the
>strangest thing about the experience was that he could
>tell he was on acid, but when he came out of his body
>his senses totally changed as if he was never on acid
>and he could think really clearly about everything.
>When he went back in his body he said it was like the
>LSD intoxication came back. Otherwise that the LSD had
>no effect on his thoughts when out of his body, like
>he thought from a whole new brain, but when he came
>back to his body the effects of the LSD came back.
>I found this fascinating because it explains that
>although certain actions from the brain can trigger an
>obe to happen, the actual things that go through our
>mind when in the obe does not come from our brains nor
>any other physical organ.
> Many find it hard to believe other peoples stories
>about obes, but I know this person really well and the
>way I can tell if what they say was an obe and really
>happened is that they have a really hard time
>explaining it. Mine was short which made it easier
>but even I cannot explain what it felt like right. You
>just have to experience it.
>It would likely be best if you have obes without the
>help of drugs but I know there are those who would do
>anything to find an easier way of doing it. Sleeping
>pills is the safest drug I know to use that would work
>but take caution if you plan to try it.

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