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Date Posted: 06:18:18 12/14/04 Tue
Author: VIVIAN
Subject: Re: PASSION FILM
In reply to: VIVIAN 's message, "Re: PASSION FILM" on 06:15:03 12/14/04 Tue

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>Hi Rabbi
>I am quite amused at the thought of a Rabbi playing
>both Jesus and satan! I must say that I would not
>have like to have played satan in the Passion film!
>Although I don't agree with your reluctance to show
>Yeshua in plays and films, I can understand why you
>may object. But Yeshua is after all the Son of Man as
>well as the Divine Word. And He became a "creature"
>for the purpose of salvation, and He also said that
>anyone who blasphemes against the Son of Man will be
>forgiven - to look at the extreme end of the argument.
>I don't think I would feel comfortable playing Jesus
>myself actually, but don't think it wrong. In my
>opinion the Passion film is an act of G-d. I have been
>praying for years that our Heavenly Father would give
>a revelation of the Cross, first to His own people,
>and then to the whole world. I feel that the film was
>a partial answer. I saw the film 5 times, and my
>Jewish/Christian friend saw it 4 times! I am simply
>amazed at the uncompromising way the film told the
>Gospel - no trying to make it rational, or leave out
>unacceptable bits, but presenting the Cross actually
>the way Yeshua Himself spoke about His own death. He
>twice described His death in terms of Moses lifting up
>the serpent in the wilderness, that He might draw all
>men to Him. This is not the way any of us would want
>to talk about it! Some of the symbolism in the film
>was marvelous, and there was so much of it. For
>example, when Yeshua had put down the Cross, and He
>was standing, staggering, and His long white garment
>was stained red - and suddenly I saw! The red heifer!
>And then I realised that the bible describes how the
>red heifer was led out of the city, and not killed by,
>but rather in front of, the High Priest! That is
>exactly what happened. And there was all this meaning
>coming out all through the film. I also thought it was
>wonderful how Yeshua was shown as being crushed, yet
>rising and rallying with such a kingly bearing. I
>don't think anyone else could have played Him as well
>as Jim Cav[can't remember his name!] did. If he was
>struck by lightening, I think satan did not like what
>he was doing, and G-d protected him. The thing is,
>that so many of us do not really go into the depths of
>the Cross, and study the meaning. We think we know it
>all. It is obviously impossible to know the actuality
>of it all, but our Heavenly Father seems so willing to
>teach and reveal to anyone who asks about it. I am
>still finding myself amazed, when I discover yet
>another symbol in the Old Testament that I never saw,
>and it almost seems that our Heavenly Father is
>obsessed with the wonderful and heroic act of His
>Beloved. He speaks of it in so many different ways. It
>is very important for us, especially as we move toward
>the last days, that we understand that the victory was
>not won on Easter Day, but on Good Friday, because we
>are going to need that information - we will need to
>know that in Him, we have the victory even while the
>darkness is enclosing us, rather than thinking, "we
>will have the victory when we reach better territory".
>Anyway, I think Mel Gibson was given a task by G-d,
>because the Churches are not doing it. It is not going
>to be perfect. It is not an evangelistic sermon, it is
>a work of art, which nevertheless speaks so much
>truth, so clearly. My favourite part is Mary
>Magdalene, when she realises that the reason He was
>able to release her from her accusers, is because He
>was punished in her place, as she is looking at the
>Blood on the floor after the scourging. And the way
>she remembers Jesus reaching down and she finds
>herself being raised up. Wonderful! That is MY Yeshua
>alright!
>Blessings
>Vivian

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