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No To Noahides
Welcome, if you have been brought to this site after a web search then I presume you are already somewhat aware of the Noahide Movement. This forum is dedicated to exposing the Noahide movement for the antichrist system that it is. My hope is that as people people become aware of this heresy and realize just what it represents, that they will become active witnesses against the Noahide movement and for the cause of Christ.

Former Christian Now Happy Noachide -- Dean, 22:40:00 07/01/06 Sat

Despite all the dire warnings of divine judgement, I assure you that since taking a step back from my 20 year life as an xtian and looking at the beginning of THE BIBLE on its own, I am not only content and happy, but I finally have a solid biblical foundation to my religious beliefs. The problem with xtianity is the circular logic that keeps indocrinated people chasing their proverbial tails. Its painfully evident by the arguements I have seen posted here that this is the case as well. I wont be fretting over any response that some "spiritual" xtian may use to refute my posting. My purpose is only to state that I WAS a devoted xtian for 20 years as a missionary to various countries, and I have after doing a sincere search of the roots of xtianity found it to be a false religious sect whose root was in Judaism but veered in a tangent to become an evil and idolatrous cult.
And by the way, the real Moshiach will soon be here, and you will all see how horribly tricked you were at this pseudo-messiah , jeezuz the not-so-anointed-one.

http://noahides.tripod.com/rethinkingchristianity/id14.html

Have a great day.

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US Government & The Noahide Laws... -- Leah, 06:27:13 01/31/03 Fri

The Noahide (Noachide) Laws, or the Seven Universal Laws of Ethics and Morality, (which I'd never even heard of until recently) are similar to the Christian Ten Commandments but do not come from the Holy Bible or Torah (they're from the Talmud which, to my understanding, supposedly contains the teachings of the Pharisees) and are said to be derived from specific passages in the Torah. The Chabad-Lubavitcher's claim that these laws are the very minimal observance for gentiles (non-Jews) to follow.

In a footnote to Yebamoth 62a, the Talmud gives the Scriptural source of the seven Noahide laws as Genesis 9:7.

In Genesis 9:7, God says to Noah:

And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

Hmmm... there's not one mention of seven laws in that verse, despite what the Talmudic sages tell us.

According to this group, Christians are guilty of idoltry (for believing in Jesus Christ) and are subject to death (by beheading!) According to their own website, they plan world domination... they want to replace the world's court systems with Rabbinical courts and they also plan to do away with what they consider to be pagan holidays like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, All Saint's Day, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, etc, and anyone observing any of these holidays is subject to death !! People can purchase anti-Christmas fliers from their website. I KNOW this sounds INSANE... but it's true ! Use the links I provide and go read for yourself.

www.noahide.com/minimum.htm

From their website:

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198) [Likkutei Sichos is a printed and bound anthology of talks given by Rabbi Schneerson]

A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam Mishne TorahHilchos Melachim 10:9)

http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm


What I found to be shocking, beyond belief, is that the birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson and the Noahide Laws have been WRITTEN INTO LAW here in the US ! The United States Congress and the seven most recent presidents (Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton & Bush, Jr.) have USED the guise of "National Education Day," "National Education and Sharing Day U.S.A.," or "Education Day, USA" (the names have varied slightly through the years, same "celebration," though) as an opportunity to pay tribute to Lubavitch Rabbi Schneerson's birthday, to his Lubavitchers and to the Seven Noahide Laws (with their beheadings and animal sacrifices and prohibition of Christianity and separate courts for Jews) that they hope to impose upon the United States and the world. The actual date "National Education Day" is celebrated changes from year to year based on the JEWISH/Babylonian lunar calendar but every year the President of the United States gives a proclamation honoring Rabbi Schneerson and the Noahide Laws.

The law is (House Joint Resolution 104, Public Law 102-14) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.ENR: and it urges us to follow the Noahide Laws as a basis for ethical values. I'm appalled by that ! I question why our presidents did not prefer to urge Americans to follow the Ten Commandments, IF they were going to mention ANY religious laws at all, which is what our CHRISTIAN nation believes, and not some man-made Pharisee laws which endorse MURDERING Christians for believing in Jesus Christ !

Here are links to a number of the speeches given by several of our presidents, that honor Rabbi Schneerson and which have cleverly put the Noahide Laws into public US law.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/40485f.htm - Ronald Reagan (1985)

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/41986b.htm - Ronald Reagan (1986)

http://envirotext.eh.doe.gov/data/eos/clinton/19930402.html - Clinton (1993)

http://sunsite.tus.ac.jp/pub/academic/political-science/whitehouse-papers/1995/Apr/1995-04-10-proclamation-of-education-and-sharing-day.text - Clinton (1995)

http://198.17.75.65/fril/1996/19960402/96-8255.txt - Clinton (1996)

http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/04-1997/970417b.html - Clinton (1997)

http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/03-1999/wh-0325.html - Clinton (1999)

http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000324.html - Clinton (2000)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/03/20010322-2.html - George W. Bush (2001)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020325-4.html - George W. Bush (2002)


Answers from the Rabbi Schneerson (website linked below):

**** What is the primary mission for our generation to accomplish?

The main avodah of this generation is to go out to the final war of the golus, to conquer and to purify all the gentile countries (such that "and kingship will be Hashem's," Ovadiah 1:21). --Shabbos Parshas VaYelech, 5746.

**** Did the Rebbe indicate that there is a danger in putting off the Noachide campaign?

This phenomenon adds much momentum to the efforts of convincing the citizens of the world to observe the Seven Noachide Laws. When the President proclaims its importance it is easier to encourage average people to accept it and so the opportunity must not be lost. It also provides us with a clear sign from Above that there is no time to lose in teaching the gentiles of the world about G-d. --Shabbos Parshas Tsav, 5747, Sichos in English, vol. 35, p. 76.

**** Aren't we busy enough working with Jews? Can we really afford to divert time and money to the campaign to transform the gentiles?

The Rambam uses the expression, "lakuf ("to forcefully influence") all inhabitants of the world to accept the Noachide commands." Although obviously one must do this in a pleasant, gentle, and peaceful way, it still must be done with persistence. If you have already tried several times, try again nevertheless. We frequently see that although people are sometimes spoken to five times, they do not change until they hear it a sixth time! --Purim, 5747, Sichos in English, vol. 35, p. 4.

**** Did the Rebbe give any practical advice on how to carry out the Noachide campaign?

Encouraging the abandonment of Christianity: "...according to the known Jewish legal ruling that Christians are idol worshippers. --Likutei Sichos 37:198, from a letter of the Rebbe dated 26 Iyra, 5726, cited in Kol Boi HaOlam, p. 389.

http://www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm


In Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky's book Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel (Pluto Press, 1999, pp. 58-62), Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that:

Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different species. A non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish, while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is Jewish. Two kinds of souls exist all non-Jewish souls originate from one of three satanic spheres, whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness. The universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews. The late, highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the 'Lubavitcher Rebbe' who headed the Chabad movement and wielded great influence in Israel as well as in the U.S., explained that, 'The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: Let us differentiate. Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of let us differentiate between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world [i.e., Gentile people] . . . A non-Jews entire reality is only vanity. It is written, And the strangers shall guard and feed your flocks (Isaiah 61:5). The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only for the sake of the Jews . . . '

(From "Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel," by Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. London. Pluto Press, 1999; as quoted by the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, March 2000.) http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0745312764/202-0473048-9188646

Follow this link to read about the "final war" the Lubavitcher's write about. http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm

This is scary stuff, folks, and there's SO much more information available on the internet about this very powerful group. Do some research...

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[> Re: US Government & The Noahide Laws... -- uriel, 08:21:27 03/13/03 Thu

the seven noahide laws, and the whole british/american israel business will not go away, your links are few, check out ephraim by yair davidy, on http:www.geocities.com/hiberi/bkepraim.html. and see what this lunatic has planned for the palestinians.
basically the idea of noahide laws is that brit/am are the lost tribes of israel, when they join together with judea, ie the jews, they will rule the world, this is happening now,bush jnr is finishing his dads attempt to wipe out saddam, with covert aid from israel, support from britain.

fortunately if this theory is taken to its logical conclusion then the tribe of dan will judge them all, the tribe of dan was never a part of the exodus as such, for dan was never the child of jacob, see the book of enoch,and genesis 14;14, abram could never have pursued anyone to the land of dan,if dan was actually his great grandson.


>Laws of Ethics and Morality, (which I'd never even
>heard of until recently) are similar to the Christian
>Ten Commandments but do not come from the Holy Bible
>or Torah (they're from the Talmud which, to my
>understanding, supposedly contains the teachings of
>the Pharisees) and are said to be derived from
>specific passages in the Torah. The
>Chabad-Lubavitcher's claim that these laws are the
>very minimal observance for gentiles (non-Jews) to
>follow.
>
>In a footnote to Yebamoth 62a, the Talmud gives the
>Scriptural source of the seven Noahide laws as Genesis
>9:7.
>
>In Genesis 9:7, God says to Noah:
>
>And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
>abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
>
>Hmmm... there's not one mention of seven laws in that
>verse, despite what the Talmudic sages tell us.
>
>According to this group, Christians are guilty of
>idoltry (for believing in Jesus Christ) and are
>subject to death (by beheading!) According to their
>own website, they plan world domination... they want
>to replace the world's court systems with Rabbinical
>courts and they also plan to do away with what they
>consider to be pagan holidays like Christmas, Easter,
>Halloween, All Saint's Day, Good Friday, Ash
>Wednesday, etc, and anyone observing any of these
>holidays is subject to death !! People can purchase
>anti-Christmas fliers from their website. I KNOW this
>sounds INSANE... but it's true ! Use the links I
>provide and go read for yourself.
>
>www.noahide.com/minimum.htm
>
>From their website:
>
>"...according to the known Jewish ruling that
>Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos
>37:198) [Likkutei Sichos is a printed and bound
>anthology of talks given by Rabbi Schneerson]
>
>A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he
>has invented a religious holiday for himself...The
>general principle is we do not allow them to make new
>religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for
>themselves by their own devices. Rather they may
>either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the
>Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his
>Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or
>diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,'
>we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is
>obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam
>Mishne TorahHilchos Melachim 10:9)
>
>http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm
>
>
>What I found to be shocking, beyond belief, is that
>the birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson and
>the Noahide Laws have been WRITTEN INTO LAW here in
>the US ! The United States Congress and the seven most
>recent presidents (Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush,
>Clinton & Bush, Jr.) have USED the guise of "National
>Education Day," "National Education and Sharing Day
>U.S.A.," or "Education Day, USA" (the names have
>varied slightly through the years, same "celebration,"
>though) as an opportunity to pay tribute to Lubavitch
>Rabbi Schneerson's birthday, to his Lubavitchers and
>to the Seven Noahide Laws (with their beheadings and
>animal sacrifices and prohibition of Christianity and
>separate courts for Jews) that they hope to impose
>upon the United States and the world. The actual date
>"National Education Day" is celebrated changes from
>year to year based on the JEWISH/Babylonian lunar
>calendar but every year the President of the United
>States gives a proclamation honoring Rabbi Schneerson
>and the Noahide Laws.
>
>The law is (House Joint Resolution 104, Public Law
>102-14)
>http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.
>ENR: and it urges us to follow the Noahide Laws as a
>basis for ethical values. I'm appalled by that ! I
>question why our presidents did not prefer to urge
>Americans to follow the Ten Commandments, IF they were
>going to mention ANY religious laws at all, which is
>what our CHRISTIAN nation believes, and not some
>man-made Pharisee laws which endorse MURDERING
>Christians for believing in Jesus Christ !
>
>Here are links to a number of the speeches given by
>several of our presidents, that honor Rabbi Schneerson
>and which have cleverly put the Noahide Laws into
>public US law.
>
>http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/404
>85f.htm - Ronald Reagan (1985)
>
>http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/419
>86b.htm - Ronald Reagan (1986)
>
>http://envirotext.eh.doe.gov/data/eos/clinton/19930402.
>html - Clinton (1993)
>
>http://sunsite.tus.ac.jp/pub/academic/political-science
>/whitehouse-papers/1995/Apr/1995-04-10-proclamation-of-
>education-and-sharing-day.text - Clinton (1995)
>
>http://198.17.75.65/fril/1996/19960402/96-8255.txt -
>Clinton (1996)
>
>http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/04-1997/970417b.html -
>Clinton (1997)
>
>http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/03-1999/wh-0325.html -
>Clinton (1999)
>
>http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000324.html -
>Clinton (2000)
>
>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/03/2001032
>2-2.html - George W. Bush (2001)
>
>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/2002032
>5-4.html - George W. Bush (2002)
>
>
>Answers from the Rabbi Schneerson (website linked
>below):
>
>**** What is the primary mission for our generation to
>accomplish?
>
>The main avodah of this generation is to go out to the
>final war of the golus, to conquer and to purify all
>the gentile countries (such that "and kingship will be
>Hashem's," Ovadiah 1:21). --Shabbos Parshas VaYelech,
>5746.
>
>**** Did the Rebbe indicate that there is a danger in
>putting off the Noachide campaign?
>
>This phenomenon adds much momentum to the efforts of
>convincing the citizens of the world to observe the
>Seven Noachide Laws. When the President proclaims its
>importance it is easier to encourage average people to
>accept it and so the opportunity must not be lost. It
>also provides us with a clear sign from Above that
>there is no time to lose in teaching the gentiles of
>the world about G-d. --Shabbos Parshas Tsav, 5747,
>Sichos in English, vol. 35, p. 76.
>
>**** Aren't we busy enough working with Jews? Can we
>really afford to divert time and money to the campaign
>to transform the gentiles?
>
>The Rambam uses the expression, "lakuf ("to forcefully
>influence") all inhabitants of the world to accept the
>Noachide commands." Although obviously one must do
>this in a pleasant, gentle, and peaceful way, it still
>must be done with persistence. If you have already
>tried several times, try again nevertheless. We
>frequently see that although people are sometimes
>spoken to five times, they do not change until they
>hear it a sixth time! --Purim, 5747, Sichos in
>English, vol. 35, p. 4.
>
>**** Did the Rebbe give any practical advice on how to
>carry out the Noachide campaign?
>
>Encouraging the abandonment of Christianity:
>"...according to the known Jewish legal ruling that
>Christians are idol worshippers. --Likutei Sichos
>37:198, from a letter of the Rebbe dated 26 Iyra,
>5726, cited in Kol Boi HaOlam, p. 389.
>
>http://www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm
>
>
>In Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky's book Jewish
>Fundamentalism in Israel (Pluto Press, 1999, pp.
>58-62), Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that:
>
>Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different
>species. A non-Jew should be punished by death if he
>kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish,
>while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is
>Jewish. Two kinds of souls exist all non-Jewish
>souls originate from one of three satanic spheres,
>whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness. The
>universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the
>role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews. The late,
>highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the
>'Lubavitcher Rebbe' who headed the Chabad movement and
>wielded great influence in Israel as well as in the
>U.S., explained that, 'The difference between a Jewish
>and a non-Jewish person stems from the common
>expression: Let us differentiate. Thus, we do not
>have a case of profound change in which a person is
>merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of
>let us differentiate between totally different
>species. This is what needs to be said about the body:
>the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different
>quality from the body of [members] of all nations of
>the world [i.e., Gentile people] . . . A non-Jews
>entire reality is only vanity. It is written, And the
>strangers shall guard and feed your flocks (Isaiah
>61:5). The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only
>for the sake of the Jews . . . '
>
>(From "Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel," by Israel
>Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. London. Pluto Press,
>1999; as quoted by the Washington Report on Middle
>East Affairs, March 2000.)
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0745312764/202
>-0473048-9188646
>
>Follow this link to read about the "final war" the
>Lubavitcher's write about.
>http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm
>
>This is scary stuff, folks, and there's SO much more
>information available on the internet about this very
>powerful group. Do some research...

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[> Re: US Government & The Noahide Laws... -- Elizabeth Ansel, 11:36:13 08/24/06 Thu




















I had a vision about one year ago this was coming.
We're up a creek without a paddle folks. Prepare for chaos about now, third time Iran refuses incentives.
Here is another servent of Jesus who will back this up
http://www.twoolivetrees@yahoo.com.
The NWO is also about order out of chaos.
I have some articles if anyone is interested.








>The Noahide (Noachide) Laws, or the Seven Universal
>Laws of Ethics and Morality, (which I'd never even
>heard of until recently) are similar to the Christian
>Ten Commandments but do not come from the Holy Bible
>or Torah (they're from the Talmud which, to my
>understanding, supposedly contains the teachings of
>the Pharisees) and are said to be derived from
>specific passages in the Torah. The
>Chabad-Lubavitcher's claim that these laws are the
>very minimal observance for gentiles (non-Jews) to
>follow.
>
>In a footnote to Yebamoth 62a, the Talmud gives the
>Scriptural source of the seven Noahide laws as Genesis
>9:7.
>
>In Genesis 9:7, God says to Noah:
>
>And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
>abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
>
>Hmmm... there's not one mention of seven laws in that
>verse, despite what the Talmudic sages tell us.
>
>According to this group, Christians are guilty of
>idoltry (for believing in Jesus Christ) and are
>subject to death (by beheading!) According to their
>own website, they plan world domination... they want
>to replace the world's court systems with Rabbinical
>courts and they also plan to do away with what they
>consider to be pagan holidays like Christmas, Easter,
>Halloween, All Saint's Day, Good Friday, Ash
>Wednesday, etc, and anyone observing any of these
>holidays is subject to death !! People can purchase
>anti-Christmas fliers from their website. I KNOW this
>sounds INSANE... but it's true ! Use the links I
>provide and go read for yourself.
>
>www.noahide.com/minimum.htm
>
>From their website:
>
>"...according to the known Jewish ruling that
>Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos
>37:198) [Likkutei Sichos is a printed and bound
>anthology of talks given by Rabbi Schneerson]
>
>A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he
>has invented a religious holiday for himself...The
>general principle is we do not allow them to make new
>religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for
>themselves by their own devices. Rather they may
>either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the
>Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his
>Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or
>diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,'
>we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is
>obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam
>Mishne TorahHilchos Melachim 10:9)
>
>http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm
>
>
>What I found to be shocking, beyond belief, is that
>the birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson and
>the Noahide Laws have been WRITTEN INTO LAW here in
>the US ! The United States Congress and the seven most
>recent presidents (Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush,
>Clinton & Bush, Jr.) have USED the guise of "National
>Education Day," "National Education and Sharing Day
>U.S.A.," or "Education Day, USA" (the names have
>varied slightly through the years, same "celebration,"
>though) as an opportunity to pay tribute to Lubavitch
>Rabbi Schneerson's birthday, to his Lubavitchers and
>to the Seven Noahide Laws (with their beheadings and
>animal sacrifices and prohibition of Christianity and
>separate courts for Jews) that they hope to impose
>upon the United States and the world. The actual date
>"National Education Day" is celebrated changes from
>year to year based on the JEWISH/Babylonian lunar
>calendar but every year the President of the United
>States gives a proclamation honoring Rabbi Schneerson
>and the Noahide Laws.
>
>The law is (House Joint Resolution 104, Public Law
>102-14)
>http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.
>ENR: and it urges us to follow the Noahide Laws as a
>basis for ethical values. I'm appalled by that ! I
>question why our presidents did not prefer to urge
>Americans to follow the Ten Commandments, IF they were
>going to mention ANY religious laws at all, which is
>what our CHRISTIAN nation believes, and not some
>man-made Pharisee laws which endorse MURDERING
>Christians for believing in Jesus Christ !
>
>Here are links to a number of the speeches given by
>several of our presidents, that honor Rabbi Schneerson
>and which have cleverly put the Noahide Laws into
>public US law.
>
>http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/404
>85f.htm - Ronald Reagan (1985)
>
>http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/419
>86b.htm - Ronald Reagan (1986)
>
>http://envirotext.eh.doe.gov/data/eos/clinton/19930402.
>html - Clinton (1993)
>
>http://sunsite.tus.ac.jp/pub/academic/political-science
>/whitehouse-papers/1995/Apr/1995-04-10-proclamation-of-
>education-and-sharing-day.text - Clinton (1995)
>
>http://198.17.75.65/fril/1996/19960402/96-8255.txt -
>Clinton (1996)
>
>http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/04-1997/970417b.html -
>Clinton (1997)
>
>http://www.ed.gov/PressReleases/03-1999/wh-0325.html -
>Clinton (1999)
>
>http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/20000324.html -
>Clinton (2000)
>
>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/03/2001032
>2-2.html - George W. Bush (2001)
>
>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/2002032
>5-4.html - George W. Bush (2002)
>
>
>Answers from the Rabbi Schneerson (website linked
>below):
>
>**** What is the primary mission for our generation to
>accomplish?
>
>The main avodah of this generation is to go out to the
>final war of the golus, to conquer and to purify all
>the gentile countries (such that "and kingship will be
>Hashem's," Ovadiah 1:21). --Shabbos Parshas VaYelech,
>5746.
>
>**** Did the Rebbe indicate that there is a danger in
>putting off the Noachide campaign?
>
>This phenomenon adds much momentum to the efforts of
>convincing the citizens of the world to observe the
>Seven Noachide Laws. When the President proclaims its
>importance it is easier to encourage average people to
>accept it and so the opportunity must not be lost. It
>also provides us with a clear sign from Above that
>there is no time to lose in teaching the gentiles of
>the world about G-d. --Shabbos Parshas Tsav, 5747,
>Sichos in English, vol. 35, p. 76.
>
>**** Aren't we busy enough working with Jews? Can we
>really afford to divert time and money to the campaign
>to transform the gentiles?
>
>The Rambam uses the expression, "lakuf ("to forcefully
>influence") all inhabitants of the world to accept the
>Noachide commands." Although obviously one must do
>this in a pleasant, gentle, and peaceful way, it still
>must be done with persistence. If you have already
>tried several times, try again nevertheless. We
>frequently see that although people are sometimes
>spoken to five times, they do not change until they
>hear it a sixth time! --Purim, 5747, Sichos in
>English, vol. 35, p. 4.
>
>**** Did the Rebbe give any practical advice on how to
>carry out the Noachide campaign?
>
>Encouraging the abandonment of Christianity:
>"...according to the known Jewish legal ruling that
>Christians are idol worshippers. --Likutei Sichos
>37:198, from a letter of the Rebbe dated 26 Iyra,
>5726, cited in Kol Boi HaOlam, p. 389.
>
>http://www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm
>
>
>In Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky's book Jewish
>Fundamentalism in Israel (Pluto Press, 1999, pp.
>58-62), Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that:
>
>Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different
>species. A non-Jew should be punished by death if he
>kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish,
>while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is
>Jewish. Two kinds of souls exist all non-Jewish
>souls originate from one of three satanic spheres,
>whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness. The
>universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the
>role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews. The late,
>highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the
>'Lubavitcher Rebbe' who headed the Chabad movement and
>wielded great influence in Israel as well as in the
>U.S., explained that, 'The difference between a Jewish
>and a non-Jewish person stems from the common
>expression: Let us differentiate. Thus, we do not
>have a case of profound change in which a person is
>merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of
>let us differentiate between totally different
>species. This is what needs to be said about the body:
>the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different
>quality from the body of [members] of all nations of
>the world [i.e., Gentile people] . . . A non-Jews
>entire reality is only vanity. It is written, And the
>strangers shall guard and feed your flocks (Isaiah
>61:5). The entire creation [of a non-Jew] exists only
>for the sake of the Jews . . . '
>
>(From "Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel," by Israel
>Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. London. Pluto Press,
>1999; as quoted by the Washington Report on Middle
>East Affairs, March 2000.)
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0745312764/202
>-0473048-9188646
>
>Follow this link to read about the "final war" the
>Lubavitcher's write about.
>http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm
>
>This is scary stuff, folks, and there's SO much more
>information available on the internet about this very
>powerful group. Do some research...

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my testimony -- Rodger Tutt, 15:37:45 12/05/06 Tue

You can access my testimony through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

Because my testimony is helping so many people, I am posting it here so it will stay on your front page for awhile if that's ok with you. The many entries in my guest book that is accessible towards the bottom of the front page on my site, and the many positive emails in my email file folders, show that the content of my testimony is helping many people.
http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/
(nothing for sale on this site)

MY TESTIMONY


The idea that God lets any creature suffer endlessly has caused me more suffering than all other problems of my life combined. By the time I had reached the mission field I had hoped to have found a satisfactory answer that would justify God allowing this to happen. I didn't find such an answer. Surrounded by thousands of people, dozens of whom were dying every day and beginning an eternity of suffering in hell was too much for me.

In 1966, at age 28, it caused me to have a nervous breakdown. For several weeks I was confined to my bed in a state of terror night and day. The terror was caused by the fear of what a God I could not love or respect would do to me after I died. It took me twelve years to fully recover from the breakdown. I quickly became agnostic, for the Christian gospel and the Bible were no longer any comfort to me at all. Many evangelical friends tried to help me. They meant well, but in the end they all had only words of condemnation towards me. This added more suffering to my already intense suffering.

Gradually I began to learn that there have been, in centuries past, and still are today, a few people in the world that see a different kind of God in the Bible. They see a God who will not let any creature suffer forever. They see a God in the Bible who will change every second of everyone's suffering into something better that it happened, including the sufferings of Satan. I learned that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. I read dozens of books, and listened to hundreds of tapes by men who believe this way and I gradually became converted to believing this way myself.

Since 1981, through my newspaper ads and my telephone ministry, I have sent out many hundreds of packets of literature explaining why I believe as I do. I have also sent this evidence to hundreds of pastors and Bible school teachers. None of them have told me that they are able to refute it. I have also read eight books that were supposed to refute the evidence in favor of universalism, but none of them do. Because of this evidence, my panic attacks became less frequent until twelve years after my breakdown they ceased altogether. Now nothing gives me greater pleasure than to make this evidence available to others who have suffered because of the same problem I had even though they have embraced Christ and His gospel for themselves, and I use a substantial amount of my money and time to this end.

Because of the enormous amount of suffering the idea of "endless hell" causes in this world, I am asking you to consider the possibility that you should stop endorsing the idea that the Bible teaches it. Or, at least, let others know that there are (and have been in centuries past) people who do not think the Bible teaches it.

Many of the responses from pastors and teachers range from a mild: "The majority don't agree with you so you must be wrong", to the vicious "For every week you leave your ad in the papers, God will increase the temperature of the fires of hell for you personally".
Most are somewhere in between these remarks. But none have told me they are able to refute the evidence. And, until they can, they will not be able to stop me from sharing the good news that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

A website that answers all the arguments that seem to support the idea that the Bible teaches endless suffering in hell is TENTMAKER. Although forum rules prevent me from posting forum links, you can easily Google it up. The scholars corner under research deals with every aspect of the subject. The more than 600 page search engine at the top of this same TENTMAKER front page is also very comprehensive regarding this subject. Just type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture passage, and ten articles will appear that refute the eternal hell and annihilation doctrines.

I am also going to guide you all to the testimony of a man whose experience was almost identical to mine. Even the thought processes that took him into, through, and out of his breakdown are the same as mine. Only he is much more eloquent in telling his story than I am in telling mine. His name is Charles Slagle.
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

You can access my testimony through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

It may well be that a few members of this form or surfers will be able to benefit from the testimonies of Charles and myself.

May God's blessing rest with your spirit!
From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
That God may be All in all 1Cor.15:28

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what I wish I had known during my youth -- Rodger Tutt, 15:39:05 12/05/06 Tue

My name is Rodger Tutt. I am 68 years old. I could have avoided a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown had I known as a youth about the following information concerning what a correctly (literally, not interpretively) Bible teaches.
You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION, THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF WHICH CAN BE READ ONLINE

1. HOPE BEYOND HELL - Gerry Beauchemin (recently published)
http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/index.html
2. CHRIST TRIUMPHANT - Thomas Allin
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm
3. THE BIBLE HELL - J.W. Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html
4. THE ORIGON AND HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT Thomas Thayer
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/OriginandHistory.html
5. THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE Dr. Loyal Hurley
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/infinitegrace.htm
6. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HELL" - J. Preston Eby
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/hell.htm
7. ONE HUNDRED SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL SAVE ALL MANKIND - Thomas Whittemore
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ScripturalProofs.html
8. TWENTY-FOUR SERMONS ON UNIVERSAL SALVATION John Bovee Dods
http://www.tentmaker.org/Bovee2.htm#Top
9. THE SECOND DEATH AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS Andrew Jukes
http://www.tentmaker.org/restitutionindex.htm
10. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND Erasmus Manford
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
11. THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS J. Patching
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/RichManandLazarus-Patching.html
12. BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT DO NOT TEACH ETERNAL TORMENT Gary Amirault
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.html
13. AION AIONIOS John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html
14. BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
15. THE CASE OF JUDAS, ETCETERA
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/Chapter16.html
16. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL John Essex
AND THE ROLE OF THE ADVERSARY James Webb
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html
17. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE James Coram
http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

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He who reject GODS instrudtions -- Pastore Franszwa (Does not reject man but GOD), 18:52:53 12/16/06 Sat

HOLY SPIRIT
2 Corinthians 4:4 [satan,] has long enough blinded us with the help of the Christian preacher, now
here is the Light for us who believe in Jesus Christ. Now then, it is unmistakable clear [ satan and his demons ] can not enter GODS HOLY TEMPLE. This means us ! Of course if we accept GODS presents.
Colossians 1:27 To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this { mystery, } which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. [However, the New Testament is clear that Christ, by the Holy Spirit takes up permanent residence in all believers ]
Luke 11:13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"
Luke 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
Acts 7:48 "However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men. As the prophet says:
1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:17 If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.
1 Corinthians 3:18 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age,
he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.
1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you,
whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
1 Corinthians 6:20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
2 Corinthians 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God,
and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.
Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
1 Thessalonians 1:6 You became imitators of us and of the Lord; in spite of severe suffering,
you welcomed the message with the joy given by the Holy Spirit.
1 Thessalonians 4:8 Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 1:14 Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you--guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
Hebrews 2:4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.
Hebrews 3:7 So, as the Holy Spirit says: "Today, if you hear his voice,
Hebrews 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
Hebrews 10:15 The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
Romans 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you.
And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
Romans 8:10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you,
He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.
Colossians 1:26-29 For ages and ages this message was kept secret from everyone, but now it has been explained to God's people. 27 God did this because he wanted you Gentiles to understand his wonderful and glorious mystery. And the mystery is that Christ lives in you, and he is your hope of sharing in God's glory.
28 We announce the message about Christ, and we use all our wisdom to warn and teach everyone, so that all of Christ's followers will grow and become mature. 29 That's why I work so hard and use the mighty power he gives me.
As soon as you realize of the reality of Jesus Christ in us, it would drastically change our Attitudes-Emotions and Actions.

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my testimony -- Rodger Tutt, 12:33:41 01/24/07 Wed

You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

Because my testimony is helping so many people, I am posting it here so it will stay on your front page for awhile if that's ok with you. The many entries in my guest book that is accessible towards the bottom of the front page on my site, and the many positive emails in my email file folders, show that the content of my testimony is helping many people.
http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/
(nothing for sale on this site)

Or, you can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

MY TESTIMONY


The idea that God lets any creature suffer endlessly has caused me more suffering than all other problems of my life combined. By the time I had reached the mission field I had hoped to have found a satisfactory answer that would justify God allowing this to happen. I didn't find such an answer. Surrounded by thousands of people, dozens of whom were dying every day and beginning an eternity of suffering in hell was too much for me.

In 1966, at age 28, it caused me to have a nervous breakdown. For several weeks I was confined to my bed in a state of terror night and day. The terror was caused by the fear of what a God I could not love or respect would do to me after I died. It took me twelve years to fully recover from the breakdown. I quickly became agnostic, for the Christian gospel and the Bible were no longer any comfort to me at all. Many evangelical friends tried to help me. They meant well, but in the end they all had only words of condemnation towards me. This added more suffering to my already intense suffering.

Gradually I began to learn that there have been, in centuries past, and still are today, a few people in the world that see a different kind of God in the Bible. They see a God who will not let any creature suffer forever. They see a God in the Bible who will change every second of everyone's suffering into something better that it happened, including the sufferings of Satan. I learned that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. I read dozens of books, and listened to hundreds of tapes by men who believe this way and I gradually became converted to believing this way myself.

Since 1981, through my newspaper ads and my telephone ministry, I have sent out many hundreds of packets of literature explaining why I believe as I do. I have also sent this evidence to hundreds of pastors and Bible school teachers. None of them have told me that they are able to refute it. I have also read eight books that were supposed to refute the evidence in favor of universalism, but none of them do. Because of this evidence, my panic attacks became less frequent until twelve years after my breakdown they ceased altogether. Now nothing gives me greater pleasure than to make this evidence available to others who have suffered because of the same problem I had even though they have embraced Christ and His gospel for themselves, and I use a substantial amount of my money and time to this end.

Because of the enormous amount of suffering the idea of "endless hell" causes in this world, I am asking you to consider the possibility that you should stop endorsing the idea that the Bible teaches it. Or, at least, let others know that there are (and have been in centuries past) people who do not think the Bible teaches it.

Many of the responses from pastors and teachers range from a mild: "The majority don't agree with you so you must be wrong", to the vicious "For every week you leave your ad in the papers, God will increase the temperature of the fires of hell for you personally".
Most are somewhere in between these remarks. But none have told me they are able to refute the evidence. And, until they can, they will not be able to stop me from sharing the good news that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

A website that answers all the arguments that seem to support the idea that the Bible teaches endless suffering in hell is TENTMAKER. Although forum rules prevent me from posting forum links, you can easily Google it up. The scholars corner under research deals with every aspect of the subject. The more than 600 page search engine at the top of this same TENTMAKER front page is also very comprehensive regarding this subject. Just type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture passage, and ten articles will appear that refute the eternal hell and annihilation doctrines.

I am also going to guide you all to the testimony of a man whose experience was almost identical to mine. Even the thought processes that took him into, through, and out of his breakdown are the same as mine. Only he is much more eloquent in telling his story than I am in telling mine. His name is Charles Slagle.
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

Or, you can also Google up ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE

You can access my forum through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

It may well be that a few members of this form or surfers will be able to benefit from the testimonies of Charles and myself.

May God's blessing rest with your spirit!
From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
That God may be All in all 1Cor.15:28

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[> what I wish I had known during my youth -- Rodger Tutt, 12:34:53 01/24/07 Wed

My name is Rodger Tutt. I am 68 years old. I could have avoided a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown had I known as a youth about the following information concerning what a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaches

You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt, or
My website is http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

You can also access most of the following writings through Google by typing in the title.

BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION, THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF WHICH CAN BE READ ONLINE

1. HOPE BEYOND HELL - Gerry Beauchemin (recently published)
http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/index.html
2. CHRIST TRIUMPHANT - Thomas Allin
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm
3. THE BIBLE HELL - J.W. Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html
4. THE ORIGON AND HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT Thomas Thayer
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/OriginandHistory.html
5. THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE Dr. Loyal Hurley
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/infinitegrace.htm
6. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HELL" - J. Preston Eby
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/hell.htm
7. ONE HUNDRED SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL SAVE ALL MANKIND - Thomas Whittemore
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ScripturalProofs.html
8. TWENTY-FOUR SERMONS ON UNIVERSAL SALVATION John Bovee Dods
http://www.tentmaker.org/Bovee2.htm#Top
9. THE SECOND DEATH AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS Andrew Jukes
http://www.tentmaker.org/restitutionindex.htm
10. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND Erasmus Manford
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
11. THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS J. Patching
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/RichManandLazarus-Patching.html
12. BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT DO NOT TEACH ETERNAL TORMENT Gary Amirault
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.html
13. AION AIONIOS John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html
14. BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
15. THE CASE OF JUDAS, ETCETERA
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/Chapter16.html
16. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL John Essex
AND THE ROLE OF THE ADVERSARY James Webb
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html
17. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE James Coram
http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

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[> [> A literally translated Bible teaches universal salvation -- Rodger Tutt, 12:35:53 01/24/07 Wed

THE ACTUAL TRUTH IS ALWAYS WORTH REPEATING

The danger in preaching the truth resides only in the imagination of the person who doesnt understand the truth.

The online book HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE by James Coram needs no defense. It stands on its own merit.
It has helped many people. It will help many more.

All comments and questions regarding this book are responded to within the writing itself, for example, WHAT ARE CORRECT TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE?

A frequent response to first learning about the existence of this book is,
You believe the words of men, but we believe the Bible.
But the actual reading of, HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE by James Coram will prove to all readers that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

IMHO, "HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE" by James Coram is the most powerful of all of the dozens of books that I have read, the hundreds of tapes that I have listened to, and the many online articles that I have read that show that a correctly, (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaches universal salvation, not eternal torment, or even annihilation. (I am 68 years old)

In fact, to me it is so powerful that it renders all arguments to the contrary completely irrelevant to the truth that it proves that, by the time Gods plan for the ages of time has been consummated, the universal salvation of all sinful creatures from everything from which they need to be saved, most certainly, will have occurred.

It can be read in its entirety online at http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

Or, it can be Googled up by typing in HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE

It has seventeen chapters, each chapter having its own highlighted heading followed by a short introduction.
Just click on the highlighted heading and the entire text of that chapter will appear.

Since I have read many writings, the sum total of which contain every argument in existence in support of the idea that the Bible teaches eternal torment or annihilation, I am confident that if anyone were to read "HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE" in it's entirety, they would change their mind about their belief that the Bible teaches eternal torment or annihilation.

However, as a friend recently reminded me, one must be disposed of the Ultimate Placer to receive any revelation; its all about Sovereign causes & effects.

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
That God may be All in all 1Cor.15:28

Write to me personally at rodgertutt@sympatico.ca

My website is http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

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Culmination of End Times -- Aurora, 16:52:12 02/11/07 Sun

The hourglass is nearly empty. The culmination of End Times is upon us and the Great Tribulation is just around the corner. There are a total of TWO things that you need in order to obtain Eternal Life and Man-Made Religion is not one of them. (1) A Good Heart Condition. (2) An Acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior. We urge those who wish to obtain Eternal Life in Christ's Kingdom to read the following very important message: An Important End Times Message

For additional End Times information also visit: End Times Truths Revealed

And for Free End Times Newsletters visit: : Free End Times Newsletter Storefront

We dont aim to twist arms or convince anyone of anything they arent ready or willing to believe as their hearts will ultimately dictate what they perceive to be truth. However, it is also our responsibility to warn those who do not accept this Truth, will face Judgment at Armageddon. For this reason we pray that the eyes and hearts of all who read our message are opened to the Truth whether that is now, or in the near future when our words come to pass.

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my testimony -- Rodger Tutt, 05:42:18 04/25/07 Wed

Because my testimony is helping so many people, I am posting it here so it will stay on your front page for awhile if that's ok with you. The many entries in my guest book that is accessible towards the bottom of the front page on my site, and the many positive emails in my email file folders, show that the content of my testimony is helping many people.

http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/
(nothing for sale on this site)

Also see the testimonies at http://www.tentmaker.org/visitorcomments.htm

MY TESTIMONY

The idea that God lets any creature suffer endlessly has caused me more suffering than all other problems of my life combined. By the time I had reached the mission field I had hoped to have found a satisfactory answer that would justify God allowing this to happen. I didn't find such an answer. Surrounded by thousands of people, dozens of whom were dying every day and beginning an eternity of suffering in hell was too much for me.

In 1966, at age 28, it caused me to have a nervous breakdown. For several weeks I was confined to my bed in a state of terror night and day. The terror was caused by the fear of what a God I could not love or respect would do to me after I died. It took me twelve years to fully recover from the breakdown. I quickly became agnostic, for the Christian gospel and the Bible were no longer any comfort to me at all. Many evangelical friends tried to help me. They meant well, but in the end they all had only words of condemnation towards me. This added more suffering to my already intense suffering.

Gradually I began to learn that there have been, in centuries past, and still are today, a few people in the world that see a different kind of God in the Bible. They see a God who will not let any creature suffer forever. They see a God in the Bible who will change every second of everyone's suffering into something better that it happened, including the sufferings of Satan. I learned that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. I read dozens of books, and listened to hundreds of tapes by men who believe this way and I gradually became converted to believing this way myself.

Since 1981, through my newspaper ads and my telephone ministry, I have sent out many hundreds of packets of literature explaining why I believe as I do. I have also sent this evidence to hundreds of pastors and Bible school teachers. None of them have told me that they are able to refute it. I have also read eight books that were supposed to refute the evidence in favor of universalism, but none of them do. Because of this evidence, my panic attacks became less frequent until twelve years after my breakdown they ceased altogether. Now nothing gives me greater pleasure than to make this evidence available to others who have suffered because of the same problem I had even though they have embraced Christ and His gospel for themselves, and I use a substantial amount of my money and time to this end.

Because of the enormous amount of suffering the idea of "endless hell" causes in this world, I am asking you to consider the possibility that you should stop endorsing the idea that the Bible teaches it. Or, at least, let others know that there are (and have been in centuries past) people who do not think the Bible teaches it.

Many of the responses from pastors and teachers range from a mild: "The majority don't agree with you so you must be wrong", to the vicious "For every week you leave your ad in the papers, God will increase the temperature of the fires of hell for you personally".
Most are somewhere in between these remarks. But none have told me they are able to refute the evidence. And, until they can, they will not be able to stop me from sharing the good news that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

A website that answers all the arguments that seem to support the idea that the Bible teaches endless suffering in hell is TENTMAKER. Although forum rules prevent me from posting forum links, you can easily Google it up. The scholars corner under research deals with every aspect of the subject. The more than 600 page search engine at the top of this same TENTMAKER front page is also very comprehensive regarding this subject. Just type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture passage, and ten articles will appear that refute the eternal hell and annihilation doctrines.

I am also going to guide you all to the testimony of a man whose experience was almost identical to mine. Even the thought processes that took him into, through, and out of his breakdown are the same as mine. Only he is much more eloquent in telling his story than I am in telling mine. His name is Charles Slagle.
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

Or, you can also Google up ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE

You can access my forum through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

It may well be that a few members of this form or surfers will be able to benefit from the testimonies of Charles and myself.

May God's blessing rest with your spirit!
From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
That God may be All in all 1Cor.15:28

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[> what I wish I had known during my youth -- Rodger Tutt, 05:46:02 04/25/07 Wed

My name is Rodger Tutt. I am 68 years old. I could have avoided a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown had I known as a youth about the following information concerning what a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaches

You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt, or
My website is http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

You can also access most of the following writings through Google by typing in the title.

BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION, THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF WHICH CAN BE READ ONLINE

0. ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST Charles Slagle
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html
1. HOPE BEYOND HELL - Gerry Beauchemin (recently published)
http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/index.html
2. CHRIST TRIUMPHANT - Thomas Allin
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm
3. THE BIBLE HELL - J.W. Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html
4. THE ORIGON AND HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT Thomas Thayer
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/OriginandHistory.html
5. THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE Dr. Loyal Hurley
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/infinitegrace.htm
6. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HELL" - J. Preston Eby
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/hell.htm
7. ONE HUNDRED SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL SAVE ALL MANKIND - Thomas Whittemore
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ScripturalProofs.html
8. TWENTY-FOUR SERMONS ON UNIVERSAL SALVATION John Bovee Dods
http://www.tentmaker.org/Bovee2.htm#Top
9. THE SECOND DEATH AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS Andrew Jukes
http://www.tentmaker.org/restitutionindex.htm
10. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND Erasmus Manford
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
11. THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS J. Patching
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/RichManandLazarus-Patching.html
12. BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT DO NOT TEACH ETERNAL TORMENT Gary Amirault
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.html
13. AION AIONIOS John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html
14. BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED John Wesley Hanson
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
15. THE CASE OF JUDAS, ETCETERA
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/Chapter16.html
16. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL John Essex
AND THE ROLE OF THE ADVERSARY James Webb
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html
17. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE James Coram
http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

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HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE by James Coram -- Rodger Tutt, 05:47:42 04/25/07 Wed

The introduction at the beginning of each chapter is not the chapter itself. You must click on the highlighted title of each chapter to bring up the entire chapter to read it. Each chapter is quite long and comprehensive.

The danger in preaching the truth resides only in the imagination of the person who doesnt understand the truth.

The online book HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE by James Coram needs no defense. It stands on its own merit.
It has helped many people. It will help many more.

Most comments and questions regarding this book are responded to within the writing itself, for example, WHAT ARE CORRECT TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE?

A frequent response to first learning about the existence of this book is,
You believe the words of men, but we believe the Bible.
But the actual reading of, HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE by James Coram will prove to all readers that JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

IMHO, "HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE" by James Coram is the most powerful of all of the dozens of books that I have read, the hundreds of tapes that I have listened to, and the many online articles that I have read that show that a correctly, (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaches universal salvation, not eternal torment, or even annihilation. (I am 68 years old)

In fact, to me it is so powerful that it renders all arguments to the contrary completely irrelevant to the truth that it proves that, by the time Gods plan for the ages of time has been consummated, the universal salvation of all sinful creatures from everything from which they need to be saved, most certainly, will have occurred.

It can be read in its entirety online at http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

Or, it can be Googled up by typing in HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE

It has seventeen chapters, each chapter having its own highlighted heading followed by a short introduction.
Just click on the highlighted heading and the entire text of that chapter will appear.

Since I have read many writings, the sum total of which contain every argument in existence in support of the idea that the Bible teaches eternal torment or annihilation, I am confident that if anyone were to read "HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE" in it's entirety, they would change their mind about their belief that the Bible teaches eternal torment or annihilation.

However, as a friend recently reminded me, one must be disposed of the Ultimate Placer to receive any revelation; its all about Sovereign causes & effects. Or as Ralph Waldo Emerson put it, People only see what they are prepared to see.

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
That God may be All in all 1Cor.15:28

Write to me personally at rodgertutt@sympatico.ca

My website is http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

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When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Gary Schooley, 07:22:13 04/26/03 Sat

My question is WHEN will the Noahide LAW be enforced? When will the accusations and decapitations start?

It appears that some sort of major, worldwide religious conflict would have to happen before the necessity to enforce it. Something that would bring about a One World Religion for example.

Any time line on when it goes into action? Since it's already law, what is keeping it from being acted upon?

Thanks!
Gary

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[> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Ray, 04:57:22 08/07/03 Thu

>My question is WHEN will the Noahide LAW be enforced?
>When will the accusations and decapitations start?

Some elements exist already. One of the details of the Noahide heresy is that for the crime of murder there is to be no appeal of conviction and the sentence is to be carried out quickly. As governor of Texas, Bush W) sent several people to their deaths even though evidence had proven them innocent (after their conviction). For many years this thing has been growing behind the scenes and the current administration is essentially controlled by those pushing the Noahide Laws. A new legal "reform" called justice 2020 is being installed all over the country and it has nothing to do with justice. There may never be an announcement that the Noahide Laws have replaced the constitution, but that is what is happening steadily and surely.


>It appears that some sort of major, worldwide
>religious conflict would have to happen before the
>necessity to enforce it. Something that would bring
>about a One World Religion for example.

I think you're right. Such a great crisis is certainly planned. Probably another staged terrorist attack, but this time with many more deaths and a declared martial law emergency.
>
>Any time line on when it goes into action? Since it's
>already law, what is keeping it from being acted upon?
>

The only time line I can offer is that when we see Jerusalem circled by foreign armies, the sh-t is about to hit the fan. As to what is keeping it from being acted on, I think the forces of antichrist are still in the organizational phase of the project. It'll come soon enough.

Ray

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[> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Gary, 16:40:08 08/09/03 Sat

Thanks Ray.

Yes, I agree that we are just one major terror act away from marshal law and drastic changes all over the place. "Experts" say, there's no doubt at all that another terror attack WILL happen, sooner or later. The only questions are when and what?

I also take into consideration the rumblings of certain antichrists, and I'm wondering how Noahide and the antichrist ambitions work together? The New Age Movement / New World Order / antichrist / Noahide (etc.) all will be working together, even if they don't know it.

One thing that baffles me about marshal law and the disarming of citizens that's been going on around the world is, since 9-11, gun sales in America has been at an all time high, and the American citizen is now "armed to the teeth". How are they going to deal with that? While most of the world is disarming, Americans are arming themselves all the more. It's gonna be interesting to say the least.

Gar

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[> [> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- QUITTNER, 12:43:50 08/11/03 Mon

Gary, as I see it, the Noahide laws have been incorporated into current legal codes of many countries, and the courts of justice of these countries enforce these laws. The Noahide laws were, if it is true that Noah actually taught them, very old and rudimentary.
..... There are now very many religions, and some of them have many versions/denominations, but their clergy often not at all enforce the requirements of these (quite out of date?) religions.
..... All countries are not only entitled, but even required, to defend their citizens, and terrorists can only be counteracted by "proper" countermeasures that must remain in place as long as more terrorist acts can be expected. Unfortunately terrorists do not conform to "civilized" methods/customs, and therefore, in my opinion, they should be treated in the same way as they are treating their victims.
..... Terrorists know where guns are located, but after their activities their victims are rarely in a position to use guns against the terrorists. And suicide bombers WANT to die, they couldn't care less if they are killed by police or the military or the judicial system. It's highly unlikely that terrorists even think of Noah, or about his laws.

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[> [> [> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Gary, 11:29:42 08/12/03 Tue

Quittner-

I wasn't refering to gun ownership in the context of terrorists, I was speaking of that in the context of when antichrist appears and Noahide decides it's time to disarm America like it has the rest of the world. The reference to terrorism and 9-11 was only to illustrate how *we*, as opposed to the rest of the world, are "armed to the teeth".

You see, I expect that the disarming of the rest of the world, along with mounting talk and plans to disarm America as well, are all being coordinated to make it easier for true Christians to be rounded up and beheaded. My mention of terrorists was just incidental tho this.

Gary

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- QUITTNER, 09:26:06 08/26/03 Tue

>>> Noahide decides it's time to disarm America like it has the rest of the world. <<<
..... Gary, I am not aware that the Noahides had, nor ever will have, the power to disarm the people living in ANY country. Where did you get that idea?

>>> ... true Christians to be rounded up and beheaded. ... <<<
..... WOW!!! Why not hanged or (whatever)??? As I remember history, some unauthorized denomination(s) of so-called Christianity actually declared true Christians to be "heretics" or "witches" or "..." and did all sorts of terrible things to them.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Gary Schooley, 18:41:19 08/27/03 Wed

>>>> Noahide decides it's time to disarm America like
>it has the rest of the world. <<<
>..... Gary, I am not aware that the Noahides had, nor
>ever will have, the power to disarm the people living
>in ANY country. Where did you get that idea?

It's a the New Age Movement / New World Order thing, and doesn't directly have to do with Noahide. There is a world wide movement going on to disarm everyone, but it's not to America yet. For further details, look to Austrailia. It's all (going to be) part of the end time, marshal law scenario. But, it will make it easier for them to coral and behead people if they aren't armed.

>>>> ... true Christians to be rounded up and beheaded.
>... <<<
>..... WOW!!! Why not hanged or (whatever)??? As I
>remember history, some unauthorized denomination(s) of
>so-called Christianity actually declared true
>Christians to be "heretics" or "witches" or "..." and
>did all sorts of terrible things to them.

Not only is it all right there in Scri[ture, but the NWO already has plans to "kill all the useless eaters". Their prefered method, so they can harvest body parts, has already been stated as beheading.

Likewise, the Georgia Guide Stones also prescribe maintianing the world population below 500,000,000. There are a number of NWO, etc., sources calling for a "major die off", and Scripture, Noahide and the NWO all agree that beheading is the way it'll be done.

In light of the fact that Noahide is an end time "conspiracy" sort of thing, I'm surprised you are not aware of these things. There's far more to tales of guillotines in sealed railroad cars, and concentration camps, than a vivid immagination can conjur. End time beheadings are supported by a number of NWO, etc., documents.

Gary

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- Gary Schooley, 08:44:12 08/29/03 Fri

And, in case you doubt, here's something to corroberate that:

http://www.angelfire.com/d20/philadelphians/guilloti.html

http://www.angelfire.com/d20/philadelphians/urgent.html

http://nwo-warning.tripod.com/nwo_guillotines.htm

There's plenty more where that came from. If I had not recently lost my old hard drive, I could provide you with countless more examples of what's going to happen. I found these using a Google search of "100,000 Guillotines".

Gary



P.S. WOW! I just read the one above called "urgent". That is some freaky stuff! About 3/4 down, marked "URGENT, URGENT ALLERT!!!", it talks about foreign forces coming into America. I've been reading things similar in many other places, about foreign forces already being here, and how *they* will be used to control Americans and enforce marshal law. Well, it now dawns on me, that before they can do that, they need to create the need (for foreign troops) by having OUR military "conveniently" out of the way. Well, the war in Iraq, along with other proposed military actions around the world, would pretty much accomplish getting *our* troops out of the way. Man, that's some ominous stuff! Are they right? IS it starting to happen NOW??? It's starting to make some sense now; pieces are starting to fall into place. I'm glad *I* know Jesus and am ready to go!

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[> Re: When Will Noahide Be Enforced? -- john, 14:41:15 08/21/07 Tue


STOP WITH THE EXTREMIST IDIOCY.THERE WILL BE NO BEHEADINGS.RESEARCH NOAHIDE NAZARENE,THE EMERGING NEW THEOLOGY.

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Filmmaking Chat on SpotLight Tv -- christian Lestat Bussiere, 14:49:24 11/12/07 Mon


Film Talk on Spotlight Tv with Host Paul Gorman (Erie Pa )

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 9

7:30 P.M. "Two" by Jim Lechesfsky

8:00 P.M. "Pole Positions" more... (Short) by Paul Gorman & Jason Hull
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9:30 P.M. "Fist Of The Vampire" by Len Kabasinski

11:00 P.M. "Grindhouse Massacre" by Dustin Austin

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Agree Truth Prevail! -- EMA (<3), 14:12:28 02/17/08 Sun

That The Holy One of Israel would give strength by His Rightious Right Arm to create Shalom among His emisaries in prayer;

Shama, Israel; The Holy (echad)ne of Israel, He is Echad;
B'Ruch Shem, Elohenu, The Holy One; Echad

Sar Shalom - come quickly!

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If you cant love a god who lets anyone suffer forever -- Rodger Tutt (http://www.tentmaker.org), 05:37:53 04/22/08 Tue

If you cannot love a god who would let anyone suffer forever, you can copy and paste (if necessary) the following urls into the address bar and find out that a literally (not interpretively) translated Bible actually teaches universal salvation, not even annihilation.

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD

If necessary, copy and paste the following url into the address bar.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

At the top and bottom of that same THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD page, there is the following link to fourteen other writings in the same series that are related to this same subject.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

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If you cannot love an eternal torment god -- Rodger Tutt (http://www.tentmaker.org), 15:37:08 06/28/08 Sat

If you cannot love an eternal torment god

Im 69 years old. The idea that God lets anyone suffer forever has caused me more suffering (including a twelve year nervous breakdown 1966-78) than all the other sufferings of my life combined.

This suffering was caused by the fear produced by not being able to love a god who would let anyone suffer forever and wondering what this god would do to me for not being able to love him. Even though I was and am trusting for my salvation in what Jesus accomplished by His death and resurrection, through the power in the blood of His cross, I was, and still am unable to love a god who would let anyone suffer forever. Here are testimonies similar to mine.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html

http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/consequences.html

If you are like me and cannot love a god who would let anyone suffer forever, you can copy and paste (if necessary) the following urls into the address bar and find out that a literally (not interpretively) translated Bible actually teaches universal salvation, not even annihilation.

THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD

If necessary, copy and paste the following urls into the address bar.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

At the top and bottom of that same THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD page, there is the following link to fourteen other writings in the same series that are related to this same subject.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

Dont kid yourself. If anyone suffers forever JESUS IS DOING IT TO THEM

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

THE GOD THAT CALVINIST AND ARMINIAN ETERNAL TORMENTORS PROFESS TO LOVE

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-called free will and luck.

The god that Arminian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you dont have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an inescapable state of eternal torment forever.

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian relies on God alone, not free will at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP: Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

"I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to heaven where you will be happy forever." John Calvin said there will be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect. (A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say that the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is love.

To read a description of eternal torment combination Calv-Arminianism see
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST Charles Slagle
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html

This next url sums up the end result of all three
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

Without Gods sustaining power everyone would cease to exist.
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Thank God the Bible does not teach such an insane idea!

Here is what the God that universal transformationists love and worship with complete abandon will do. He will complete the process of salvation for the first fruits of election, (the remnant chosen by grace), after the first resurrection. Then He will complete the process of salvation for the non-elect after the great white throne judgment. For some, it will include an experience in the lake of fire.

Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead to guarantee that any necessary "kolasis aionian" (age-during corrective chastisement) will be 100% effective in changing wrong attitudes. All acts of sin have been forgiven for everyone. Attitudes cannot be forgiven. Attitudes must change. This is what the lake of fire which is the second death will do. It will last no longer than God sees is good for everyone involved.

You can Google up good articles on this subject by typing in kolasis aionian

Also see

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/index.htm

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Copy and paste the following urls into the address bar

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http://www.christianuniversalist.org

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Information, and frequently asked questions in support of a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible teaching universal salvation,

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and they will learn that the Bible actually teaches universal salvation instead, not even annihilation.

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This was the information that enabled me to recover from a twelve year nervous breakdown 1966-78, and it gives me great joy to keep learning that it is helping more and more other people too!! Im 69

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Greetings from a Noahide -- Daniel Daly, 03:20:07 12/27/02 Fri

Hello everybody

I am one of those Noahides that you are so opposed to. I came out of Christianity with the revelation that worship of Jesus is actually idolatry (it violates the 1st and 2nd commandments of the 10 commandments)

I am not out to ruin any christians life, as I am sure the coming Davidic Messiah likewise will not want to do. I hope you guys don't have a too-negative viewpoint on us.

Anyway, here is a website which shows my beliefs

http://www.geocities.com/xaddadaxx/Index.html

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[> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Michael von Shearer, North America, 15:53:56 01/01/03 Wed

With all the debate about
following the Noahide Laws,
please remember what
Christ taught:
Our God is one God.
Love Him as you love yourself.

To even your enemies,
do good.

If they are sick, or hungry,
or naked,

heal them, feed them, and
clothe them.

There's lots of other good stuff
Christ said as well. Read his
"Red Letter" words in the Gospels
of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

I suspect about the Noahide Laws
things, That they're a huge TRAP.

Some aspects of Judaism and Zionism
consider worship of Christ Idolatry.
It seems that any believe that Christ
is God, or Detity, or was antthing
other than a deceiver and a sorcerer
must be eventually exterminated.

Right now they have 95% of Israel
excluded from non-Jewish ownership,
leasing, or even rental. It could
happen here under the Noahide Laws.

The Noahdie Laws could one day
be used even as an excuse to exterminate
Christians.

I'll stick with complete
Freedom of religion myself.

Mik







>Hello everybody
>
>I am one of those Noahides that you are so opposed to.
> I came out of Christianity with the revelation that
>worship of Jesus is actually idolatry (it violates the
>1st and 2nd commandments of the 10 commandments)
>
>I am not out to ruin any christians life, as I am sure
>the coming Davidic Messiah likewise will not want to
>do. I hope you guys don't have a too-negative
>viewpoint on us.
>
>Anyway, here is a website which shows my beliefs
>
>http://www.geocities.com/xaddadaxx/Index.html
>
>Sincerely
>
>Daniel Daly
>Canberra, Australia

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[> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Joshua Immanuel, 02:04:23 01/14/03 Tue

I am a Noahide too. I never knew the Salvation of The Lord God until I covenanted to walk in His Torah. Now I am Saved!

Shalom

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[> [> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Ray, 05:21:18 08/07/03 Thu

At least you're honest about where you stand. Some come pretending that they are somehow Christian-Noahides (whatever that would be).

If you think you can be saved by keeping the law then go for it. Jesus said it won't work. But nobody can force you to take His word for it.

I think you'd find a lot more love and happiness under grace than under the law, but it's your decision, good luck.

Ray

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[> [> [> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Hez, 09:54:23 12/16/09 Wed

>At least you're honest about where you stand. Some
>come pretending that they are somehow
>Christian-Noahides (whatever that would be).
>
>If you think you can be saved by keeping the law then
>go for it. Jesus said it won't work. But nobody can
>force you to take His word for it.
>
>I think you'd find a lot more love and happiness under
>grace than under the law, but it's your decision, good
>luck.
>
>Ray

No,Paul, the self proclaimed "apostle" to the Gentiles that never laid eyes on Jesus said it wouldn't work, Jesus said the law was forever.

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[> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Gary Schooley, 15:39:21 08/10/03 Sun

If you "came out of Christianity", you never were a real Christian in the first place. You never KNEW Jesus; you never shed one tear of remorse or repentance; you never allowed Him to come into your heart and be Lord of your life; and, you never had any real allegiance to Him for what he did for you. You have never known the sheer JOY of knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt, that all your sins are forgiven; that your name is written in Jesus' book of life.

It's no surprise really. The bulk and majority who profess "christianity" (85% in America), clearly have not, do not and will not ever know the Lord on a personal level. Do you think that the remaining 15%, who do not pretend to be Christian, are responsible for the woes that plague the rest? I think not. The world is full of false and damning (invented) religions; you and yours is no exception. Now, you have NO ATONEMENT FOR SIN. I guess you must ignore this, too:

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Once again, as Jesus warned, FEW will enter his kingdom; all but a few will perish, because FEW really dare to KNOW him. That's why he put it on a personal level, and will say to so many religious hypocrites, "Depart... - I never KNEW you"
(remember those words, you'll be hearing them again!)

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy
name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

In studying and writing about religious hypocrisy vs. true, born again Christianity, I have found one common denominator; one common thread that runs through them all: avoidance of faith in the atoning blood of Jesus. In the many invented religions, Satan uses many different ways to accomplish this. In some religions, it's rather blatant, while in others (like Catholicism), it's much more subtle and subversive. But, they all work to deny, pervert and otherwise destroy the child like faith that Jesus requires.

Meanwhile, how do you deal with the IRREFUTABLE FACT that Noahide intends to fulfill Scripture prophesies exactly, particularly where beheading Christians is concerned?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Only Noahide comes close to fulfilling this. How does it feel to be used by Satan to kill so many Christians (future tense)? How will YOU answer God for your role in that? You have no atonement; what sacrifice for sin will you have?

Well, thanks for once again for illustrating how shallow religious "christians" shop for a religion like people shopping for vegetables in the grocery. Thanks for showing
how easily so many "christians" can never really KNOW Jesus, and WHY he'll one day send so many away to eternal separation from God.

Shame on you, hupocrite, for ever pretending to be a born again Christian! You never were.

Have a VERY good life! Your eternity IS bleak!

Gary Schooley





Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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[> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Jonathon, 14:46:10 02/10/04 Tue

Poor deluded fool.

Don't you see that once they have forcibly converted all to a Noahide Regime, Zionists everywhere will seek to turn the entire earth into a mirror image of the oppression of Palestine?

If Zionist Jews in Israel can not treat Arabs with Justice, then how the hell do you expect they will treat the rest of humanity (if given the chance)?

With decapitation for all who refuse!

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[> [> Re: Greetings from a Noahide -- Hez (Wake the hel up!), 10:13:54 12/16/09 Wed

I hear Sears is having a White Sale so why don't all you KKK racist scumbags goosestep on down there.WTF does Zionism have to do with a religion concept debate? The concept of the Noahide Laws existed before Jesus was a thought. In fact, the Christian book says Gentiles are supposed to follow them.Remember Acts 15 or do you ignore that part like you ignore the love thy neighbor part?Face it, every sect of Christianity is just an offshoot from the Catholic church you fundie twits love bashing so well.You're all Catholic Light,like light beer but alot less fun.Pull your heads out and think; if Torah law wasn't in efect then why the debate over whether Gentile believers should convert and follow it or not?

Acts15:17: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18: Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
This is the foreword of the laws that Paul gave to the Gentiles. G-d's works from the beginning of the world includes laws that man must live by.Cain broke one of these laws by murdering his brother and was punished.If these basic laws did not exist,then what law did Cain break?What sin did he commit?
19: Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Verse 19 shows the decision of James that Gentiles are not bound to the Torah laws.This is further elaborated in verse 24,where it says "to whom we gave no such commandment"
20: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

1Tim5:19: Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
A definate reflection that it requires two or more witnesses to convict a man.In Torah law,there must be no less than two witnesses.This is part of the original 7 laws to establish courts of justice.
Rom:13:9: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
This is a reflection of what Hillel wrote 100 years prior to Paul and 40 years prior to Jesus,"What you dislike yourself,do not do unto your neighbor".It also reconfirms the Noahide laws listed below.

Eph:4:28: Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

The Seven Noachide Laws
====================================
1) It is forbidden to eat a limb or any meat that was
severed from a live animal.<-- prohibition of eating blood,
Acts 15:20. But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.


2) It is forbidden to blaspheme the name of G-d. <--Rom 2: 24. For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

3) It is forbidden to steal or rob.<-- Eph4:28,Rom:13:9: 9. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

4) It is obligatory to appoint judges and set up a
court of law in order to pronounce and mete out
just decisions to all mankind.<-- 1Tim5:19 19. Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.


5) It is forbidden to worship idols. <- No idols,Acts15:20, But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

6) It is forbidden to commit sexual sins
(adultery, homosexuality, bestiality).<- No fornication,Acts15:20,Rom:13:9: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery,...

7) It is forbidden to murder a human being.Rom:13:9: For this, .....Thou shalt not kill, ..It is already established earlier that the Torah laws were not to be followed by the gentiles,yet these laws,which are the Noahide laws also contained in Torah were to be followed by the gentiles as taught by Paul.

When meat is prepared at your local market,it is not salted and soaked to remove the blood.Matter of fact,many products list blood as an ingredient such as scrapple,polish liver sausage and others.Hence christians do eat blood.Acts 15:20,29 and Acts21:25
The command not to eat a strangled animal is dirrectly tied to not eating the limb of a living animal.The stun method used in non-kosher slaughter frequently leaves the animal still living when they begin to eviserate and cut it up.A strangled animal was often simply unconciencous in the old days.Acts15:20,29 and Acts 21:25
Have a cross at church that people kneel before to pray?This falls into the graven image catagory,never mind paintings of saints and Jesus,same idea.Acts15:20,29
The church has driven Jews from thier homes to take thier property and pocessions for over 1800 years.Refer to Thou shall not steal and covet,Eph4:28,Rom:13:9: For this,..... Thou shalt not steal, .... Thou shalt not covet Now,I have heard the old standard of "They weren't real christians" yet they were the only christians.Adherring to the words and proclamations of the church and leaders.
So,the church has consistantly broken the laws they were instructed to obey,almost since its inception.If as John states in 1Jn:3:4( Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law),the church transgresses these laws on purpose.According to Paul,salvation is lost due to sinning purposely,Hebrews10:26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hence,the church has led all of its followers astray from what was taught.

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In Reply -- Whitey Lawful (Against the law... that has no spirit.), 02:02:34 03/26/10 Fri

The Noahide movement is a logical conclusion to Jewish regulation, and activism of/in (popular) Christianity. Their Civil Rights Movement, and Government Mitzvot of bondage to the law.

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Many people go through each day feeling exhausted and tired mentally and physically or feeling constantly sleepy. Sometimes this is merely a feeling that is tempting you to reduce your physical and mental activity level. Other times the feeling is combined with a real physical weakness and a reduced ability for mental activities.

Often however, you will not be that weak as you feel, and the hidden strength that you have can be a help to overcome your problem.

CAUSES OF CHRONIC TIREDNESS AND EXHAUSTION

Chronic fatigue syndrome is a neurological disease that often occur suddenly and often after a viral infection. The main symptoms of the disease is emotional, cognitive and physical exhaustion and feeling of being sleepy and tired. Other common symptoms are poor sleep, joint and muscle pain, sore throat and tender lymph nodes.

The symptoms tend to aggravate after a short period of activity and are not well settled by sleep or rest. The symptoms must have existed at least in 6 months for the diagnoses to be given and there must not be another specific disease present that have tiredness as a main symptom.

Common diseases that often causes tiredness are hypothyroidism, sleep disturbances, depression, anemia and fibromyalgia. Nearly any kind of chronic disease will have tiredness as a symptom. Tiredness will also often rise from conditions like diabetes, cancers, inflammatory bowel diseases, celiac disease and heart insufficiency. Chronic tiredness should always be investigated by a doctor because it can be a sign of something serious.

Often however tiredness is a result of a bad lifestyle with a poor diet, excessive work, stress, lack of exercise and bad sleeping habits. If the life situation gives constant struggle and worry, chronic tiredness will often be a result. Also where there is a specific disease causing the symptoms, lifestyle causes may contribute too.

Deficiency of vitamins and minerals often contribute to tiredness and exhaustion, and such deficiency is often directly caused by a bad diet. Many people have iron deficiency. Such deficiency will give general symptoms, for example exhaustion, before the blood count is affected.

PRACTICAL ADVICES AGAINST TIREDNESS

Here are some practical advices that may be helpful for tiredness caused by bad lifestyle and also help to decrease the tiredness by chronic diseases in addition to specific treatment against the actual disease..

- Get enough sleep. Try to go to bed before 11 o'clock each evening and sleep at least.7 hours. Taking a siesta in the middle of the day and sleep somewhat less in the night can also work well.

- Regular exercise are very effective against chronic tiredness and exhaustion, and to improve sleep quality. Condition exercises like swimming, running cycling and skiing have the best effect. The exercises must of course be adjusted to your medical situation.

The feeling of exhaustion will tempt you to stay away from physical activities. But when you overcome that temptation and start a session of exercise, you will often discover that you are stronger than you thought, and the feeling of tiredness will often suddenly decrease drastically some minutes after starting the activity.

- Do some regular yoga exercises, for example at the days you do not do condition training. These exercises stimulate the internal organs to work better. The internal organs support the whole body with distribution of oxygen and nutrients and with elimination of waste. By chronic tiredness these functions often work poorly.

- Some regular meditation can help you to relax and give you good sleep, and thereby make you less tired. Meditation also stimulates your internal organs to work better.

- A good diet with all necessary nutrients will counteract tiredness and exhaustion. You should eat 3-4 good meals each day.

In each meal there should have some ingredients giving energy like full corn bread, cereals, beans, peas, potatoes and sweet fruit. There should be some protein sources like lean meat, fish, poultry, seafood, mushrooms and lean dairy products.

You should also eat some almonds, sunflower seeds and nuts. These food types both give you a healthy type of fat and protein. Each meal should also contain some vegetables and fruits.

- An extra supply of vitamins and minerals can sometimes help to overcome tiredness. It is for example important to get enough iron. Too much iron will however be bad for the health and give the opposite effect.

- You should reduce the consume of sweets, sweetened drinks, cakes, snoops and fast food.

- Some coffee and tea can help you to overcome tiredness. Too much of these stimulate however, will give you bad sleep quality and contribute to chronic tiredness.

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The Basic Principles of Physical Yoga, also Called Hatha Yoga


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The Basics of Physical Yoga Exercises- or Hatha Yoga

Systems of physical exercises that can be called yoga have been developed many places and with different ultimate purposes, but the improvement of health and physical abilities is always a purpose. In many traditions, especially many of the the Indian traditions of yoga, these bodily improvements are seen as a means for a further higher spiritual goal. In other traditions the bodily improvements together with coupled mental improvements are seen as the main goal, as for exmple in the Chinese traditions.

The basic principles of physical yoga exercises are simple, however, and if you follow these principles, you actually are doing yoga. Therefore you can make your own yoga exercises that fit your own need as long as you follow the principles. In the following these are explained.

An important part of physical yoga is the breathing exercises, or pranayama. This part is in many ways the most fundamental, because the basic type of breathing is also a part of the yoga postures - the asanas. The postures consist of stretching and holding the body in specific stretched positions for some time, while breathing in a specific way. One usually do both pranatama and asanas in the same session. You can do the pranayama before or after the asanas.

BREATHING EXERCISES

The complete yoga-breath is a basic exercise upon which all other breathing exercises are based, and this is also the way you breath during the body postures. It is however also an independent exercise that you can do any time to refresh yourself. It begins with lungs in a totally empty state obtained by contracting your stomach muscles and all of your chest muscles.

Then breath in as much as you can by letting your stomach expand. Then proceed breathing in by expanding the muscles in the mid of your chest. At last complete the filling of your lungs by expanding the upper part of your chest. It is not possible to separate these three faces completely, though, and they shall also glide over into each other in a smooth way.

Then you empty your lungs completely in a similar sequence. First you contract your stomach muscles and empty as much as possible using these muscles. While holding your stomach muscles contracted, you proceed emptying by contracting the muscles in the mid of your chest and then complete by contracting the upper part of your chest.

All other breathing exercises are essentially variants of the complete yoga breath. When doing the exercises you sit in an upright position on a chair or on some cloth at the floor with crossed legs. Some of these exercises are:

- You breath in and out rapidly 8-15 times, and then hold your breath some while.

- You breath in rapidly, using 4 seconds, then hold your breath 16 seconds or as long as it feels comfortable, then breath out using 8 seconds.

- In a more complex variant of the above exercise you breath in while closing one of your nostrils with a finger, hold your breath some while, and then breath out closing the other nostril. Then you repeat it while still closing your other nostril, hold the breath and then breath out while closing the first nostril.

- You can breath in and breath out through your mouth while pressing your lips towards each other so that you get an extra pressure in your lungs. You can also press your lips together while breathing in so that you get an under-pressure in your lungs.

BODY POSTURES

A yoga posture begins with your body in a relaxed position, either laying flat down or sitting right up. You empty your lungs before the posture as in a complete yoga breath.

- Then you slowly swing or twist your whole body or parts of your body into a stretched position. While doing this your breath in as in the complete yoga breath.

- Then you hold the position for a short or longer time. If you hold it long, you are breathing relaxed with the complete yoga breath method, but not in such a complete way that the breath makes you exhausted.

- Then you slowly swing back from the stretched state to the original position while breathing out like in the complete yoga breath.

Most postures are variant of these basic principles, of which a few are:

- You lay on your back on a cloth at the floor. Then swing your arms up and behind your shoulders, stretching all of your body from top to toe. Then slowly sit up and swing your torso forward while stretching your arms towards your toes. If possible bend your torso all the way down to your knees. After holding the position some while, slowly sit up and then lay down to the original position.

- You lay on a cloth at the floor on your stomach, with another cloth under your lower stomach to protect your genitals. Then lift and swing your upper body up as long as possible, while also bending your head back. Push with your hands towards the floor to help the lifting and to get an effective stretch. Then slowly lay down again at your stomach.

- Sit at the floor on a thick cloth with your legs flexed up halfway towards your stomach and your knees together. Then twist your torso and also swing your head to one side, while pushing against your knee with your hands to help the twisting and get an effective stretch. Then, after holding the position a while, swing your torso back and twist to the other side in the same manner.

- Lay on your back on a cloth at the floor. Swing your legs up so your feet come over your head. Then lift your torso up from the floor so that your body rests upon your shoulders, and straighten your body upwards as much as you feel comfortable. Help the lifting and holding the position with your arms. After having been in that upright position some while, descend your torso and legs again.

The classical description of this exercise prescribes that your body shall point straight up, but that causes your neck to bend unpleasantly and a great pressure in your head. Therefore it is best for most people not to straighten out completely when resting the body on your shoulders.
Yoga explained - Learn The Principles of Yoga exercises

HOW TO LEARN YOGA

You can find exact descriptions of yoga exercises in books and in web-sites or you can attend courses. You will probably find that the exercises are difficult to do as described in the beginning. It is however possible to do them approximately in the beginning and gradually learn to perform them perfectly.

But you can also compose your own exercises that fit your personal condition and need. To be yoga exercises they must be composed according to the principles outlined above. Weather you learn standard exercises or compose your own, you should however choose a set of exercises that will stretch or twist all your body parts.

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When a man or woman gets an orgasm, the good feelings in the genital area or other sexually loaded areas increase to a peak and then settle down to a lower level again. There will also be an increasing mental ecstasy that reach a peak and then settles again.

After the orgasm the person feels satisfied and relaxed, but can feel revitalized in many ways. A relaxed ecstatic state can remain a long time after the orgasm.

Physiological reactions like engorgement by women, erection by men, fluid secretions and undulating muscular reflexes also get to a peak and then settle down again. By men the orgasm usually, but not always have ejaculation of semen as a component.

Orgasm usually occur after prolonged and repetitive stimulation of sexually sensitive body zones, either physically, mentally or both. The stimulation results in nerve impulses being sent to the spinal cord and the brain and good feelings as a result. The central nervous system then sends impulses back to the stimulated area and other sensual zones resulting in all the physical reactions.

The physical reactions increase the impulses sent to the brain and the resulting feelings. The central nervous system respond by intensifying the impulses sent back with more intense bodily reactions as the result. The increased feelings also tempt the person to intensify his stimulating actions.

This way the feelings, behavior and reactions steadily intensify, often in a wave-like manner until the peek is reached. During the peak there will be many subsequent waves of intense feelings, muscular contractions in the pelvic zones and undulating body movements.

Many persons can experience a new increase of arousal when all the orgasmic reactions have settled, and by new stimulation a new orgasm can be reached. When this is possible several times without any waiting time between, the phenomenon is called multiple orgasms. Probably more women than men have this ability. Most persons, however, experience that stimulation just after an orgasm do not result in so good feelings. But with a relaxing pause of some minutes between each orgasm it is possible for most persons to have two or more orgasms.

A women or a man can get orgasm by stimulation many body areas. Orgasm by stimulation at the genital area is the most commonly occurring, but there will be reflexive feelings and reactions in the whole pelvic area and other body parts.

By women, there seems to be three kind of genital orgasm. By clitoral orgasm the process has the clitoris as the origin and the orgasmic process spreads to deeper area like the G-spot, the inner vaginal area and the uterus.

By G-spot orgasm the process seems to start in the area between the vagina and the urethra and the area around the urethra, the so-called G-spot, and spreads to the clitoris and other areas. Some women also report getting orgasm with the innermost parts of the vagina and the uterus as the center.

A man most often gets orgasm by stimulation at the penis, and especially the penile head, but the process spread to all parts of his genitals and backwards along the area around the urethra to the prostate. The whole of this area is involved in the reflexive pumping during ejaculation.

Some men can also achieve orgasm by primarily stimulating the prostate, most often through the rectal wall. In this case the reactions spread forward to the penis.

Some men and women can get orgasm with the rectal and anal area as the center, by stimulating the rectal opening and the inner lining of the anus, and especially if deep anal stimulation is involved.

Many women and some men report having orgasms upon stimulation of the breast nipples, the sensual brownish area around the nipples and the area in a wider circumference around the nipples. This area is sexually sensitive in both sexes.

A stimulation of the breast area, seems however to create reflexive processes in the genitals and in the uterus and inner vaginal area. The orgasms achieved through breast stimulation may therefore often have its centre in the genital zone, even though the breasts are the zone primarily stimulated.

The lips and the deeper parts of the mouth and throat are still a sexually sensitive area. A person can therefore sometimes get orgasm through kissing and oral sex. Also in this case reflections in the pelvic zone plays a great part, and the centre of orgasm lies probably in the pelvic area. When two person kisses, they usually also caress each other and mutually stimulate each other at many sensual body parts.

Orgasms can sometimes occur upon pure mental stimulation or as a result of mental processes. In these cases the mental process usually results in reflexes in the genitals and the orgasm will have the genitals or other pelvic areas as the centre of the process. Mental stimulation leading to orgasm is especially common during dreams. By teenage boys and men such dreams can lead to ejaculation and subsequent wakening.

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Do you know where you will spend eternity? -- JacquelineDeane55, 09:40:08 07/29/17 Sat

Where do you think you would spend eternity, if God forbid, you were to die later today?

I am not sending this to you to preach religion. I am asking you if you were standing before a Holy God do you think that He would have an issue with your sin if you were standing in front of a Holy God?

Because that is exactly what the Bible tells us. That a Holy God can not be in the presence of sin. So every human being that has ever lived has had the exact same problem. This sin problem. But do you also know that Jesus Christ offers all of us a free gift, the forgiveness of sin. And faith and belief is all God wants from you. So, do you believe that Jesus was the Son of God who came to earth and lived a perfect life? Do you know that God will accept Christ's perfect life and let Christ be your Advocate, so on Judgement Day God doesn't look at all the bad stuff you've done. Instead, God will look at His perfect Son when He see's you. Because Jesus and His perfection literally stand in our place.

Something like that. I would try to lay it out in the most simple terms so they know what the problem is and what the solution is and how it works.

Then in the last sentence just write a quick sentence like "there really is little difference between you and I, I am a sinner too. But I have accepted Christ's free gift of salvation and I know that I will be with God in eternity. I sincerely hope that this has helped you and I do apologize for being so forward, but I have to share this with you because I'm sure neither of us gets free gifts often. At this point, I would recommend for you a good Bible-based church that can answer any questions you have and will surround you with like-minded believers. Just Google bible church in your local area. God bless you!"

Rom 3:23 :
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Now that you know that no one is good in God's eyes, how do we then become good? How do we become vindicated before God? The Bible teaches that we need to have Jesus' righteousness but the only way to do that is to come to Him by faith:

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Jesus commands everyone everywhere to repent of their sins, to ask for His forgiveness, and to turn from their sins and to put their faith and trust in Him. Repenting means that you are sincerely sorry for all the bad things you have done in life and you want Jesus to change you into his holiness and righteousness.

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MEDICAL AND PSYCOLOGICAL ORDEALS IN CHILDHOOD AND TEENHOOD - interesting polls and stories -- Knut Holt, 01:56:56 05/23/18 Wed



Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

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