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Date Posted: 19:48:39 10/14/02 Mon
Author: kris
Author Host/IP: cache-mtc-ah06.proxy.aol.com / 64.12.96.171
Subject: Re: WAR ON IRAQ
In reply to: PLEA FOR PEACE 's message, "Re: WAR ON IRAQ" on 16:31:14 10/14/02 Mon

ok Mr. plea for peace, which is ironic because you are pro war... I don't think we should just sit back and do nothing, but attacking Iraq is not the answer. first of all the UN doesn't support this idea we have, and by not agreeing with the UN we will just piss more countries off and they will hate us too. that is the reason we didn't invade Iraq back in the gulf war, we just got them out of Kuwait. we could have easily just destroyed them then, but the other countries fighting the war on our side didn't think it was a good idea. also bush is a moron, he can't speak correctly, and I never said anything about anarchy so shut the hell up.
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>>Many of us oppose President Bush’s proposed war on
>>Iraq. We are of the opinion that this war is an
>>illegal act of aggression and we hope the punk rock
>>community will join us in protest before it’s too
>>late. This article includes information and weblinks
>>to help you get involved.
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>>Iraq is 7000 miles away, ˝ the size of Texas, and has
>>a GDP (Gross Domestic Product) 20% less than that of
>>Idaho. Their forces are significantly weaker than they
>>were before the Gulf War. Twelve years of constant
>>bombing and sanctioning have taken an enormous toll on
>>the innocent civilians of Iraq. The United Nations
>>estimates that the sanctions cause the death of 5000
>>children each month from preventable diseases. More
>>people have resigned from the U.N. in protest due to
>>these sanctions than any other issue in U.N. history.
>>A first strike military attack would lead to even more
>>suffering for the innocent civilian population of
>>Iraq. Saddam Hussein was not elected and does not have
>>the mandate of his people. We should not hold a
>>civilian population responsible for the actions of
>>it’s leader (that is what Bin Laden and his gang did
>>to us).
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>>This march to war is political conquest timed
>>perfectly with the midterm elections. It certainly has
>>taken the heat off of the Bush administration in
>>regards to the corporate scandals in which many of
>>their top patrons were involved. We should force the
>>Bush administration to work with the United Nations to
>>bring the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks to justice,
>>and to deal with other pressing domestic issues. They
>>seem to want us to be, as Gore Vidal has stated, at
>>“perpetual war for perpetual peace.” We all have a
>>responsibility to speak up.
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>>Most of the neo-conservative, pro-war ideologues in
>>the Bush administration love wars as long as they do
>>not have to fight. Neither Bush nor Cheney fought in
>>Vietnam; neither did Paul Wolfawitz or pundits such as
>>George Will. These imperialists have a crude vision of
>>the world where conquest is morally expectable if we
>>do not approve of a country’s leader. Iraq is the
>>target now, but next it will be North Korea, Iran,
>>China…. it never ends. An invasion of Iraq will give
>>other countries justification for similar actions,
>>such as China’s ominous intentions towards Taiwan. It
>>will give Pakistan and India the justification to
>>destroy each other (while ironically the Bush
>>administration preaches peace to them). All the while
>>our own leaders continue to mislead the US public by
>>claiming ties between Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.
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>>During the height of the Cold War, during the Cuban
>>missile crisis, nuclear weapons were 90 miles off US
>>shores aimed right at us. We did not have to go to war
>>then. We settled it without violence. We contained
>>Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Empire and can certainly
>>contain Iraq.
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>>Dissident voices have been shut out of the public
>>debate as the corporate media beats the drum of the
>>Bush Administration’s war. Many of the real facts
>>about the war on Iraq are not being heard.
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>>The Nation magazine has provided and excellent Q & A
>>about war in Iraq page
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>>Let your voice be heard.
>>
>>E-mail Congress:
>>www.progressiveportal.org/letters/global/iraq/
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>>Call Congress:
>>www.congress.org/
>>
>>Sign a Petition
>>www.moveon.org/nowar/
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>Ok, I heres what i think, as if anyone cares.
>War is NEVER good. People die, both the good guys and
>the bad guys and the innocent. But sometimes its just
>something that has to be done. Its just one of those
>things. Its our human nature. However the purpose of
>this "war on Iraq" is because number one they ARE
>terrorist. (Im not saying every indiviual, but a good
>percent and leader) They have ties with the terrorist
>networks and if your not gonna oppose it and take a
>stand against it. Then in my eyes your a terrorist.
>Second, there has hard proof or biological and
>chemical weapons that i doubt they will hesitate to
>use them. Or try real hard to keep them out of hands
>of terrorists.
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>What im really trying to say through all this. is do
>you want the gov to just ignore this. That what they
>did with some of the possible warning signs of sept11.
> Then when this terror does strike again. You can
>start another message column about how our government
>sucks cuz they do nothing about it. Or do you want us
>to sit back like we did during WW2 and help at the
>last minute after millions are already dead. Pres
>Bush is a good president hes not gonna let the same
>mistakes happen again, that would be stupid. Hes gonna
>take care of the problem before it starts.
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>I hope you can understand what im trying to say
>through this LONG message. But know your facts. stop
>this anarchy shit. Be honest it dosen't work. Its not
>even in our human nature for a government-less soceity
>to work. Try standing behind your government for once.

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