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Date Posted: 30/11/09 4:50:17pm
Author: dave (not suprised!)
Subject: Re: jesus army and xmas
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "Re: jesus army and xmas" on 24/11/09 7:21:12pm

>>Well done Nelly well said !!!! we speak the same
>>language....
>
>me too
>
>Back in the day....the "persecution" of the 1980s when
>some of us were kicking up a bit of a stink about life
>for children in the community (which is where the vast
>majority of the membership lived in those days), three
>were articles in the tabloids about how Christmas was
>regarded as evil and was prayed against and chuildren
>didn't get presents etc....
>
>....so Dave Resolute and others cooked up a classic
>bit of misinformation by telling the press that, on
>the contrary, the children in community would be
>having a special day of games and jollity....but as
>John and others can tell you, Xmas was like any other
>day.
>
>A few years ago when I was in touch with the local JA
>household, I was told that they were going to do
>something different...and I wondered if things had
>changed! But it turned out they filled a minibus with
>brothers and sisters, drove up to Snowdonia, where it
>was bitterly cold, slept in the bus seats with the
>engine running for warmth, then the next day, went for
>a walk, had a sausage roll or two and then drove back.
>I think doing nothing sounded better.
>
>I am not unsympathetic with their view of Xmas - if
>you are an adult. I felt relieved not to have to take
>part....but it is different for kids. Christmas us
>really about kids...so being a kid in the JA must be
>miserable at that time of year, especially for the
>very many kids who will have some recollection of a
>more festive time.


thanx guys for the feedback,youve convinced me that i havent been living in a parallel universe were this sorta shyte is normal.yeah pete,agree xmas is a non event for us adults,but for children,a big thing,which is why i swear now these scum[because make no bones,thats what the ones still in there right minds are,too make a childs life so different and freakish to there little mates lives]will no longer be an issue for me.theyve pressurised my child into feeling so bad for spending xmas with us last year]in what they would term a 'material'way] that they[the child]has informed me,at the very last minute,after talking about it all year that theyre choosing to spend xmas with the ja.even the way in which my child told me sounded like theyd been coacfhed by the ja's prize spokesperson![and after some carefull conversations has admitted such]is there anyone here that would be prepared to consider being an 'expert witness' sort of thing,on their experiences with the ja and how children are expected to live[john smiths account very much brought it home,among others]when this custody case comes to court?not to vouch 4 me in any way but to discredit there inevitable bullshit?

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