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Date Posted: 7/12/09 7:01:20pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: Noel taught what its current crop now call heresy
In reply to: dave 's message, "Re: Control Freak with a Bible" on 7/12/09 6:26:40pm

>>"Noel was a bit the same with the Bible, though. I
>>have him on tape exhorting people not to read ahead of
>>the verse he had quoted. He took things right out of
>>context. People who read on were told to look up and
>>told that they needed to trust him, he wouldn't
>>mislead them about what was there."
>>
>>Yes, I remember that as well. Wow, Noel really had a
>>massive ego, never mind John Lennon muttering about
>>being bigger than God, WOE BETIDE if the Holy Spirit
>>interrupted one of Noel's Sunday Morning Declamations,
>>oooer!
>
>
>if the guy wasnt the age he was when i first had
>problems,via my family,thats exactly what id of done!

He really was the most conceited and arrogant churchman I have ever come across...and I have come across a fair few. I never liked him, let alone loved him.

In fact, I always find myself surprised that people claim to have loved him because I always thought he was an insufferable bully.

In my day he was referred to as the prophet and was regarded as infallible. If what you believed the bible was saying didn't fit with what Noel preached, your interpretation was plain wrong.

Even now you cannot get away with saying that anything he taught was wrong. I tried it on the JA's forum and they refused to host my posting. Back then I claimed that Noel had taught that if those who left would backslide into apostasy (without imagining for a moment that anyone would challenge my recollection - EVERYONE KNEW IT) but Tschaka said I was accusing the JA of heresy. Well, perhaps I was.

Eventually, after asking around, he came back to me and admitted that some older members had confirmed that that had been the belief in those days; he didn't go as far as to admit that it must have come from Noel, but where else did Jesus Fellowship belief come from, but from Noel?

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Snigger -- Barbara, 7/12/09 8:01:29pm
- Re: Snigger -- Peter Eveleigh, 7/12/09 8:46:17pm
  - Re: Snigger -- Baldy, 7/12/09 11:04:15pm

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>>>"Noel was a bit the same with the Bible, though. I >>>have him on tape exhorting people not to read ahead >of >>>the verse he had quoted. He took things right out of >>>context. People who read on were told to look up and >>>told that they needed to trust him, he wouldn't >>>mislead them about what was there." >>> >>>Yes, I remember that as well. Wow, Noel really had a >>>massive ego, never mind John Lennon muttering about >>>being bigger than God, WOE BETIDE if the Holy Spirit >>>interrupted one of Noel's Sunday Morning >Declamations, >>>oooer! >> >> >>if the guy wasnt the age he was when i first had >>problems,via my family,thats exactly what id of done! > >He really was the most conceited and arrogant >churchman I have ever come across...and I have come >across a fair few. I never liked him, let alone loved >him. > >In fact, I always find myself surprised that people >claim to have loved him because I always thought he >was an insufferable bully. > >In my day he was referred to as the prophet and was >regarded as infallible. If what you believed the bible >was saying didn't fit with what Noel preached, your >interpretation was plain wrong. > >Even now you cannot get away with saying that anything >he taught was wrong. I tried it on the JA's forum and >they refused to host my posting. Back then I claimed >that Noel had taught that if those who left would >backslide into apostasy (without imagining for a >moment that anyone would challenge my recollection - >EVERYONE KNEW IT) but Tschaka said I was accusing the >JA of heresy. Well, perhaps I was. > >Eventually, after asking around, he came back to me >and admitted that some older members had confirmed >that that had been the belief in those days; he didn't >go as far as to admit that it must have come from >Noel, but where else did Jesus Fellowship belief come >from, but from Noel?
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