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Date Posted: 08:49:25 03/08/04 Mon
Author: :-) / kashi108 - 16 Feb 2004
Subject: Re: The real Self-realization
In reply to: Khechar Muni - 12 Feb 2004 's message, "Re: The real Self-realization" on 08:48:34 03/08/04 Mon


>"Paramahansa Yogananda’s quote seems to be quite similar to the above quotes on intoxication. However is it the same as lasting Bliss ? or is this experience of intoxication one of the indications that the sadhak is on the right path."<

If one is walking to the sea he will begin to smell the sea air even though he may be a few miles away. So he follows that sea smell. But when he jumps in an immerses himself even over his head in the body of the ocean then it is something even beyond the smell of the air!
Yet that sea smell has it's source there in the ocean! That is it's source! So is the sea smell there or not? When one is immersed over one's head in the ocean is the sea smell there? This ocean is the source of the smell.

So is the sea smell lasting or is it one of the indictions the sadhak is on the right path to the ocean?:-)

At that stage it is unspeakeable!

"Is the glass half full or half empty?" :-)


"one attains the Supreme Bliss of the par avastha of Kriya. The Bliss about which no one has the ability to speak - the reason why It is “avyakta” [unspoken] -- known by oneself -- later cannot make anyone know. ....Lahiri Baba in His Gita 14:1



Patanjali had codified the stages.

One sits in posture [asana] and takes up pranayam.
this leads to pratyahar---the withdrawal of the senses.
How? How are sense withdrawn?

"what is required is a well concentrated practice of Kriya, by which a sort of drunkan or intoxicated feeling developes, and then the mind is not attracted to outward things."
.............Sri Sanyal Mahasay's Gita from 13:10

See?


>""Yoga is prevention of fluctuations of the mind"."<


How is mind held still? How are the fluctuations ended?
It is held still by the Intoxication.

Look--

"what is required is a well concentrated practice of Kriya, by which a sort of drunkan or intoxicated feeling developes, and then the mind is not attracted to outward things."
.............Sri Sanyal Mahasay's Gita from 13:10




Kechar Muni has quoted beautifully from the Paramhansa--

"The advanced Kriya Yogi learns by ectasy to shut off the delusion-imposed dream of this world and of his body"

This addiction to the Intoxication or drunakenss is gradual. First it is to the point that the senses disconnect [pratyahar]. Then the mind becomes focused via the ever increasing Intoxication in the head in between the eyebrows {Dharana or "concentration"]

Gradually the drunkaness [Joy, Intoxication] becomes so great that meditation flows effortlessly to Kutastha by itself with any efforts of Kriya. At this stage the sadhaka is is called a "Pranayam Parayan"

Patanjali ( and Swami Pranabananda in His Gita) says it is the 7th stage---Dhyana.
It is that Dhyan which gives rise and leads to samadhi.


Swami Pranabananda also explains in great detail in PRanab Gita--

What is Yoga? - “ Yogaschita Vritti Nirodhah” – Yogachitta Samaadhanam” the equanimous state of Chitta is called Yoga.
With the union of senses with their objects various kinds of sensations arise in the mind. Each of these sensations are called Vrittis.
Upon disintegration of this union of senses and Vishayas, any kind of Vrittis do not arise
in the Chitta. It becomes equanimas.". (6:2)


So one has to un-attatch the senses from their objects.

How?
Sanyal Mahasay describes---

"what is required is a well concentrated practice of Kriya, by which a sort of drunkan or intoxicated feeling developes, and then the mind is not attracted to outward things."
.............Sri Sanyal Mahasay's Gita from 13:10


Then as Pranabananda ji says---

"Sadhaka! While performing Kriya, you will observe that your mind is not falling towards attraction of senses and their objects. There is no relation (attachment) even with kriya pranayam. "


It happens gradually. Gradually the mind gets gripped more and more by ever increasing Intoxication until gradaully it becomes so still.


Pranabanandaji continues---

>"As soon as the Prana is stabilized, no desires arise anymore. Then only you will know that you have been “Yogaarudha=established in Yoga”."<

Now gradually mind becomes so still that even the pranayam falls away (as directed by Guru) and then one practices this absorption alone (in the way which was advised by Guru) ---

Pranabanandaji says---

>"At that time, mind takes refuge in Sahasrara Kriyas [absorption in BLiss in special way as directed by Gurudev] effortlessly . Then, other than that (sahasrara kriyas) there remains no other sadhana. After sometime, one attains Brahmisthiti [the most complete stillness of mind].
||6.4||


Lahiri Mahasay's letter #20:
"What comes easily and without strain, that you should do. When tranquility comes, do not disturb that by doing pranayam or any other Kriya."



Lahiri Mahasy's letter 21:
"Once there is Tranquility, do not do any Kriya. Everything else is good."

But only Guru can guide in this. So one must always be in touch with the Kriya advisor. He knows the various signs and proceedures. The variuous numbers to practice under what conditions are for how long and then the various proceedures of Sahasharar Kriya.

So there are various stages----Pratyahar, Dharana, Dhyana and then one forgets everything---even the breath and oneself! That is Samadhi!


Or in Lahiri Baba's words on the whole thing--

"There is a kind of Bliss there [Supreme Bliss] which is called Paramananda, immersing in which there is profound intoxication -- thus, when one does not contact the limited [sense-world etc.], one is without pleasure and pain; when one contacts the limited, one is with pleasure and pain. It is by this contact one experiences; observe this (titikshu = look)."......... Lahiri Baba Gita 2:14

It is unspeakable.



Look---when one puts the sweetest sugar on one's tongue then any lesser sweet fails to register.

So a man staying in the Intoxication retires from the sensory world by deeper and deeper absoprtion as Kechar Muni points out in Paramhansa's quote--

" Only by deeper ecstasies, when the yogi secures unbrokenly his soul union with the transendetal Spirit, can he consciously dissolve the cosmic dream..."


"one attains the Supreme Bliss of the par avastha of Kriya. The Bliss about which no one has the ability to speak - the reason why It is “avyakta” [unspoken] -- known by oneself -- later cannot make anyone know. ....Lahiri Baba in His Gita 14:1


Look---"The yogi who stives sceintifically to unite his soul with Spirit through guru-given techniques of meditation realizes that the greatest dharma or protective virtue of the soul is ever new joy"............Yoganandaji's Gita page 256

See? It is the same as Sanyal ji states---

"what is required is a well concentrated practice of Kriya, by which a sort of drunkan or intoxicated feeling developes, and then the mind is not attracted to outward things."
.............Sri Sanyal Mahasay's Gita from 13:10

"The man of self control enjoying the immutable bliss of the soul has passed beyond the grief-bestwoing phenomonal world. Man's wavering reason , having beocme fixed on the soul , changes into an unswerving discrimination. When the light of soul happiness comes, the accumulated darkness of incarnations is dispelled in a trice.
The sense entangled often find their reason jumping from one sense pleasure to another , seeking the permanent happiness that is promised but never granted by the deceitful senses.
The wise man, enjoying the pure unchanging bliss of the soul in constant meditation, finds that his reason no longer tempts him to fly from one material object to another".....Yoganandaji';s Gita page 313

One goes beyond words and concepts. It is known via practice.



Isn't it beautiful? See? Some discussion like this can really inspire us all to practice. It inspires us all to shut of the TV or such and to really practice.
Hence the benefit of such satsaang.
It is really beautiful.

But only in practice is it known. The talk can only go so far (ands then even the talk gets to be an obstacle! :-)

" Only by deeper ecstasies, when the yogi secures unbrokenly his soul union with the transendetal Spirit, can he consciously dissolve the cosmic dream..."


At that point it is beyond any words ormental concept.

So one has to learn from the Guru or his authorzed channels and follow the instructions exact.

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