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| Subject: Sounds like the answer is a true UK federation like Canada and Australia | |
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] Date Posted: 14:30:23 10/22/04 Fri In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "SNP" on 11:45:24 10/22/04 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:36:09 10/22/04 Fri The population of each constituency would be much larger under this arrangement than the current formula in the UK, as the FC Parliament would have roughly the same number of MPs as the UK Parliament now (and there isn’t enough room for all of them at Westminster). If we were to keep the existing formula, we would have about 1300 MPs, so we would have to construct a spectacular brand new Parliament building fit for the new era. Now where have I heard that before? Still, I doubt it would be any more expensive than the Scottish Parliament. What kind of building would you like to see? Personally, I would favour a grand neo-classical design, rather than the “contemporary” style, as many of these new buildings look like they have been designed by Picasso, and will not date very well. Neo-classicism may be derided by many modern architects as imposing irrelevant grandeur, but I feel that the building should reflect the history of our democracy, rather than the current incarnation of it. I believe that many modern building, including the new barnacle in Edinburgh, are equally guilty of being self-indulgent nonsense. Additionally, in a Federal Commonwealth, what role would the current national Parliaments in Westminster, Ottawa, Canberra and Wellington play? Up until now, we have been talking of a central parliament/executive, with devolved Government in each of the states/provinces/territories. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:01:51 10/22/04 Fri >in a Federal Commonwealth, what role would the current >national Parliaments in Westminster, Ottawa, Canberra and >Wellington play? Up until now, we have been talking of a >central parliament/executive, with devolved Government in >each of the states/provinces/territories. I would like to see the existing federal governments of Australia and Canada disappear, the government in Wellington would be the government of the FC province of New Zealand. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:15:46 10/22/04 Fri It would be a shame to make museum pieces of the beautiful Parliament buildings in London and Ottawa. I’m not so keen on the Canberra one, sorry Ian. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It's nicer inside than out, but I do think it's silly to hide a building under a hill | |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:37:32 10/22/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Joel (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:47:56 10/31/04 Sun i would have the current NZ national parliament become the NZ state/prov parliament. The Australian parliament, government buildings and jobs could be turned into a civil service or administrative hub for the FC in the southern hemisphere (Aus and NZ with dependencies etc). - it could be made a priority to redirect and setup federal agencies departments (for Aus and NZ) and even headquarters in the city. - There is still the option to move the NSW parliament to Canberra but i seem to remember the building used in Sydney is quite nice. Previously I said that Westminster should be the federal parliament and perhaps something similar to what i have proposed for Canberra should happen in Ottawa. That is still and option but how about: The federal parliament being swapped between the Palace of Westminster and Parliament Hill every two terms of gov (so every 9 or 10 years) or perhaps 3 terms. The length of stay needs to be much longer than the current situation with the EU parliament (about every 6 months?). Advantages: - when one building is not being used for parliament it could be used to generate money as a tourist attraction - important and substantial building work, security features etc could be carried out and installed. - the two (original) CANZUK countries with highest populations would have democracy closer to home. - the governemtn would appear less UK-centric [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:08:15 11/02/04 Tue IF we gave Canada a time with the capitol we would have to give it to Australia also. Its bets to keep it one place. The most obvious place is London, though perhaps Cardiff, simply because people wont be worried about Englash dominance that way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: David (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:45:15 10/31/04 Sun I tend to agree with this approach but what would we do with Canberra? Almost 50% of employed people there are civil servants. The place would turn into a large goast town and its economy would be in ruins after the capital was moved. Perhaps Canberra could be made the Capital of NSW? Although even if this happened the city would still face significant problems. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:28:54 10/31/04 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Number of MP's | |
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Author: JIm (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:06:33 10/22/04 Fri On my rep by pop formula, I doubled the number of constituents in each English constituency. Currently, a typical English one has about 90,000 people, so I doubled it to 180,000. This gives us an FC parliament roughly with the same number of MP's as the current Westminster. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |