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Subject: Slight double standards...

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Andrew

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Date Posted: 17:02:08 01/05/05 Wed
In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Flags at the Scottish Parliament" on 14:25:29 01/05/05 Wed

"The Nationalists have not succeeded in getting rid of it. Now, hopefully, someone can aim to get rid of that EU flag"

That's a bit hypocritical. Scotland's as much part of the European Union as United Kingdom, and moves to extricate it from the EU would be in themselves "nationalist" or even "separatist"...

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[> [> Subject: no
Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:14:25 01/05/05 Wed Actualy it is more part of the UK than the EU. Its part of the UK, but Scotland is not a member of the EU as such, the UK is a member, Scotland just happnes to be part of the UK. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: The UK is in the EU...

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Andrew
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Date Posted: 17:18:13 01/05/05 Wed

No it's not Owain, it is a part of the UK and a part of the EU.

"Scotland is not a member of the EU as such"

Scotland is in the EU. Like the Catalans are in the EU.

"Scotland just happnes to be part of the UK."

The UK just happens to be part of the EU. Whether you or I like it or not.

And no I'm not what you might term a "Europhile".

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[> [> Subject: Then why not fly the Commonwealth flag as well - the UK is part of the Commonwealth!
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:17:49 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: I think there's a legitimate argument for that...
Author: Andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:26:14 01/05/05 Wed Yes Scotland is in the Commonwealth... it plays in the games etc... so there is an argument for that. However to complain about Scot nats trying to undo one union while you're trying to do another union... well some serious questions have to be asked there. Some Scot nats use the same arguments Eurosceptics use. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I agree, I support the UK, but I oppose the UK's membership in the EU
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:55:41 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: The UK and the EU are both unions in the end, and both have their detractors and supporters
Author: Andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:27:33 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: By the same token, a Commonwealth Union is just a union and can easily be established
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:19:11 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Commonwealth flag on Scottish Parliament?
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:03:08 01/05/05 Wed It would be nice gesture, particularly given the role of Scots in the Commonwealth. However, I doubt whether most members of the Scottish Parliament could spell commonwealth, let alone understand its significance in terms other than an instrument of English imperialism. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: arrgh, wrong section - this is a reply to you Jim...
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:06:17 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Scots had a huge role in building Canada for which I am grateful. Thank you Scotland
Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:08:21 01/05/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Tell that to the Scots fishermen
Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:42:42 01/05/05 Wed Whom I'm quite sure would be happy to be branded nationalists in order to get their livelyhoods back... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Wrong kind of nat
Author: Andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:47:18 01/06/05 Thu "Whom I'm quite sure would be happy to be branded nationalists in order to get their livelyhoods back..." I'm talking about BRITISH nationalists, not Scots nats. There are several Scottish independence parties against the EU. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]