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Subject: Mbeki


Author:
Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 11:54:52 01/06/05 Thu
In reply to: David (Australia) 's message, "Mbeki attacks Britain's colonial record in Africa" on 02:10:56 01/06/05 Thu

He's not a nice chap, Mbeki. His hobby is jumping on bandwagons. But it is a sad truth that, when African presidents are having crises and don't have the faintest idea what to do, they think, "I know, I'll make a speech showing that I am a pukka anti-colonialist, to distract attention from the fact that we can't do the blindest thing about our problems..."

And that business about Churchill's book: "Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live."

I defy Thabo to refute any of that in terms of the current goings-on in the Sudan and elsewhere.

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[> [> Subject: So he's blaming Britain for Zimbabwe's current strife?


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 12:11:55 01/06/05 Thu

There is only one man responsible for Zimbabwe's current post-colonial enlightenment, or lack thereof, and it is not Winston Churchill, Harold Wilson or Tony Blair.

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[> [> [> Subject: Oh yes


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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 13:46:51 01/06/05 Thu

Our Robert is the African Anglophobe par excellence. You can always tell if someone is living in the past if they blame Britain for all their problems rather than America, which is the up-to-date fons et origo mali, so to speak.

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