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Author: Frank (US) | [ Next Thread |
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] Date Posted: 14:41:14 12/07/04 Tue In reply to: Nick (UK) 's message, "I think we were too." on 10:00:40 12/07/04 Tue I do admit that the British Empire of the 19th century was the most benevolent and culture-respecting empire in history. I mean yes it did the modern world through its enforcement of free trade, development of colonies and investment into underdevelopment countries, etc. And it did respect most cultures...but there were some dark actions done in this period to. The Boer War was obviously one, the brutal savagery that occured on both sides of the Indian mutiny, and of course the burning of the Emperor's summer palace in the opium war (Im chinese..had to throw that in). So the British did have some dark spots too...to put everything into perspective. Oh and I think that it was British diplomacy in the 1800s that coined the term "gunboat" diplomacy...im not sure...Niall Ferguson's Empire seems to suggest that but not outright say it... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:54:53 12/07/04 Tue Gunboat diplomacy was first coined at the time of Palmerston's longest ministry. It had to do with the shelling of Piraeus after the Greeks arrested David Pacifico - a Maltese jew who, because he was born in Gibraltar, had a British passport. They tried to impeach Palmerston, but failed after he gave a 3 hour speech without notes defending his policy. Look up the speech if you can... it is worthy of George Bush... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:16:47 12/07/04 Tue "I therefore fearlessly challenge the verdict which this House is to give... whether, as the Roman, in days of old, held himself free from indignity, when he could say 'Civis Romanus sum'; so also a British subject, in whatever land he may be, shall feel confident that the watchful eye and the strong arm of England will protect him against injustice and wrong." Lord Palmerston, House of Commons, 6/25/1850. And when he said it it was actually true... those were the days, eh? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |