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] Date Posted: 16:16:53 12/04/04 Sat Dream on chaps, history has passed you by. The Americans and European Union have scuppered what chances you had to get together, not to mention the fact that most English while aware of a common language don't feel much in common with Australians, let alone Canadians (the average Englishman thinks that Canadians have an American accent - at least he can't tell the difference). Not to mention the fact that few people anywhere either like or care about the silly monarchy and its inbred scions. You'd be better off watching the USA. If you don't watch out, there'll soon be a "union of English speaking nations", with only one country running all the rest. Once the USA has bases on your soil, and controls your economy, yikes, watch out! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:52:56 12/04/04 Sat I've often wondered about something with which you might be able to help me. Could you take me through the dichotomy between the Free and Abtract manifestations of the Universal Idea and why they are necessarily antithetical? Perhaps it's just my translation, but I've often thought that you didn't explain that clearly enough, nor delineate in sufficient detail the impact of this intellectual model on historical dialectics. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:05:36 12/04/04 Sat All of human history progresses dialectically towards the realisation of the World Spirit? Sorry, it's just metaphysical nonsense dressed up in pretty jargon. What is real is reasonable, and what is reasonable, real? Bollocks to that! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:40:47 12/04/04 Sat The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short, but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:04:35 12/05/04 Sun You could infact be one person using different pc's. If for example I was sad enough to spend my life spamming pointlessly, I would make use of both or my PC's. And "Evan" why do you have a personnal problem with me? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ben.M(UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:20:00 12/04/04 Sat Is it possible to IP ban certain address' on this forum? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Bent Boy (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:56:08 12/05/04 Sun "Is it possible to IP ban certain address' on this forum?" Yes, but it won't prevent you being a bunch of losers. Isn't going to happen chaps. :-) p.s. I have the best part of 20 IPs I can use. Good luck finding them all. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain the Umpteenth [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:24:24 12/05/04 Sun Now, seriously, whoever the hell you are, this is getting ridiculous. I mean, I post under different names and different personae (my real name is Evan - you, I would imagine, are youngirelander). But I never actually set out to be nasty to people or to wreck things. You, on the other hand, seem bent on nothing but puerile idiocy. These guys are not losers. Admittedly, they may have certain beliefs that ah dinnae always agree with, but at least I'm civil. Except with Owain, and we all know why that is. Can we please have a decent discussion here about the issues involved? If you disagree, fine. But I think that I speak for us all when I say that you do not have the right to call us idiots or losers (except Owain). In recognition of this fact, I'll post as Evan from now on in order to avoid confusion. We don't need two anonymous posters on this forum. And I'd prefer you to refrain from posting with my name, thanks very much. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Evan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:27:44 12/05/04 Sun Yes, I've said some dumb things in the past under different names. Generally speaking, they were all in fun. As far as my pro-EU beliefs, I'm back and forth on the whole thing. Sometimes I think that you lot are being a bit hard on the whole European project, but I often believe that the world is organised along the wrong lines and we'd be better off with our cultural neighbours than our geographical ones... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Not Rumplestiltskin (Rutland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:30:58 12/05/04 Sun I'm not Young Irelander. Nor Rumplestiltskin. Put it this way. More people oppose your Victorian ideas than support them... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:30:04 12/05/04 Sun We should immediately abolish every idea that can in any way be connected with the past, especially with the evil 19th century. Abolishing the past is always a good way to nobble the future. It is, however, rather quantly nostalgic of you to use "Victorian" as a swear word. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Matt [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:45:24 12/05/04 Sun Its not young irelander you ritard! People don't always agree with your point doesn't mean they are the same person. There are plenty of people that won't agree with this idea. You have got to learn to respect that and ignore the posts. And to Ben..wtf? Banning IPs whats the point in saying that. One post by someone that doesn't agree warrents a banning...well so much for the freedom of speech tradition that goes with the English speaking and later all other democracies. That guy is now probably going to deliberately SPAM the site thanks to your suggestion of Banning! Get a grip! You have to learn to take other peoples opinions that may not always agree with yours. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They'll have to ban free speech through the "federal" commonwealth too | |
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Author: Jan the Man [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:47:29 12/05/04 Sun Because not everyone wants to be part of some stupid empire ruled from London. p.s. If you check, my IP is not the same as "Matt"'s - sorry! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Matt [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:35:09 12/06/04 Mon Its about an equal partnership of countries [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:33:33 12/06/04 Mon It was even an equal partnership of countries before the War. The phrases "in no way subordinate" and "fully autonomous nations within the British Empire" appear in a certain rather famous document of 1930. Had you tried to tell a Canadian in the 1930s that he was ruled from London and he would laugh. Mind you, this reminds me of an amusing thing which I read some time ago. The American ambassador to Ottowa - a man, it seems, who shared the 1930s American delusion that the Empire was a coherent and homogenous unit even in peacetime - asked a Canadian chap in 1939, just before the Polish crisis, about Canada's constitutional position. I can't remember the exact words except for the final reply, but it went something like this: "If England were to go to war, would that mean that Canada had to go to war?" says the American. "Certainly not!" replies the Canadian, mildly affronted. "But," the American goes on, "if England went to war, would Canada go to war?" "Of course," says the Canadian. "But why?" "Well, you see, we'd sort of have to..." And if that doesn't give you hope for the FCS, nothing will! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:41:53 12/06/04 Mon Actually, there were no Canadian embassies until 1944. Up until then, we had diplomatic missions, which were subordinate to the British Embassies. Most business in the 1930's usually went through British embassies. A Canadian diplomatic mission was opened in Washington in 1929, but it was upgraded to full Embassy status in 1944 (probably because of the war) - it was our first foreign embassy. Ofcourse, we had High Commissions in Commonwealth countries, which were opened at that time. Today, in my Canadian passport, there is a line that if I needed help in a foreign country which did not have Canadian diplomatic representatives, it advises me to go to the nearest British consulate. This is encouraging. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:56:02 12/06/04 Mon But this was an American in Canada, not a Canadian in the USA. And the details in my recounting of this story may be innacurate - it was something I read years ago - but the conversation is about right. I am glad to hear of the addendum in your Canadian passport. Come to Venice and look at the plaque on the Consulate here. It advises British citizens in what circumstances they should address themselves to the consulate, and says underneath "In the absence of Commonwealth diplomatic missions in the city, Commonwealth citizens are advised that the above information applies to them also." Bravo. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:20:48 12/06/04 Mon And, I must say, it gives me a very good feeling to know that our governments work together on that level. Isn't it a ridiculous inefficiency having British, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand Consulates in the same cities? Trade missions make good sense, but we should all be able to use each other's consulates anywhere. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:31:58 12/06/04 Mon Can any of the Australians/Canadians tell me if your passports have the same statement on the inside front cover as ours? It states: "Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty, all those whom it may concern, to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary." [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:56:37 12/06/04 Mon "The Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia, being the representative in Australia of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, requests all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer, an Australian Citizen, to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford him or her every assistance and protection of which he or she may stand in need." [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:22:08 12/07/04 Tue It remains shocking that Britain is now the only Commonwealth country without a blue passport. Makes me want to froth at the mouth, or, more practically, do what I have done, which is to go down to Smythsons on Bond St and buy an original-style blue and gilt passport cover (without, of course, the phrase "European Union" at the top). I recommend it to everyone and they even sell online! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Andrew(Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:47:05 12/07/04 Tue 'The Secretary of State for External Affairs Canada requests, in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without hinderance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.' This, along with the French translation is on the inside front cover. As well, on the back cover, it states 'In countries where there is no Canadian office, application may be made in an emergency to the nearest British diplomatic or consular office.' Nice to know that at least on our passport they acknowledge our connection. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 01:00:26 12/07/04 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:59:00 12/07/04 Tue This...  [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:20:28 12/07/04 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:21:39 12/07/04 Tue However, this was a suggestion for a current passport holder, prior to the creation of the FC - mainly to get that bleedin "European Community" or whatever it is called today, off my passport. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |