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Subject: Wait a sec...


Author:
Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 21:46:34 12/10/04 Fri
In reply to: Ian (Australia) 's message, "British presence" on 01:46:19 12/10/04 Fri

I just got home from a secondhand bookshop where I was having a look at things in English (remembering that I live in Brazil) and, rather remarkably, found a novel by the 'Australian' Patrick White that I didn't previously have in my collection.

He wrote "The living and the dead" in England, where he had spent most of his life up to that point, having been born there while his parents were visiting and having been sent back to go to boarding school and so on. Had he died at this point (1941), he would have been remembered (if at all) as a British novelist, not an Australian one.

In the end, the distinction barely matters. The reason I'm writing this is because the book is a Penguin, and I have a fondness for the orange spines of Penguin books that could not comfortably sit with the idea of a "foreign" company. Of course Penguin is a British company, not an Australian one, but it is so much a part of my life that it simply didn't occur to me to mention it among the British brands present in Australia. As with Patrick White, it seems the distinction barely matters.

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[> [> Subject: Weren't the troops at Rourke's Drift Welsh?


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Nick (UK)
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Date Posted: 13:26:30 12/14/04 Tue

The 24th Foot and Mouth, or something like that. A delicious irony that should be the name of an English theme pub. Another nail in the coffin of the UK.

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[> [> [> Subject: Rorke's Drift


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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 16:20:33 12/14/04 Tue

They certainly were Welsh, from the South Wales Borderers (which I think was called the 24th Regiment at the time), and they sang 'Men of Harlech' as well as God Save the Queen at various points, I believe. Mind you, their officers were English and so were many of the men. They don't call it the 'British' Army for nothing...

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[> [> [> Subject: Rorkes Drift


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David (Australia)
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Date Posted: 08:20:26 12/15/04 Wed

Yes - South Wales Borderers (24th foot), you would expect some "foreigners" in a regiment situated near the border, but it is fairly sad nonetheless.

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