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Subject: Zogs and Burgs


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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 17:08:50 11/25/04 Thu
In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "All right..." on 16:50:44 11/25/04 Thu

Ah, but His Majesty King Zog of the Albanians - at least, the previous one who was ousted by the Commies and not the young fat one - is one of the few monarchs to have won a place in the Guiness Book of Records, holding the title for 'most cigarettes smoked daily'. Weighing in at an average of just under two hundred, he was a truly world-class smoker, and died in his 90s.

Of course, the very title "emperor" yields some etymological problems. It was first used by the Roman emperors... but only when they were commanding armies ('imperare - to command', 'imperator - one who commands', of course), and the rest of the time they used 'Caesar'. This got into various languages, including German (Kaiser), Russian (Csar) and early-Byzantine Greek (Kaisar). Other people whom we call emperors did not call themselves anything of the kind - the Japanese, as you point out, were Mikados; the Mughal Emperors were called 'Shehen-shaah' (great king); and so on. I suppose that its first use as primary title for a monarch was Napoleon's 'empreur', which he chose deliberately because he was a specifically military dictator in the mein of Trajan; and as such I think that the point in your first post was dead right.

Nevertheless, I think that Victoria made a splendid empress, and the two Edwards and two Georges after her made smashing Emperors.

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