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] Date Posted: 10:01:12 11/26/04 Fri In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "..." on 23:53:23 11/25/04 Thu "Firstly, it is deplorable to use the Queen as a vehicle for party political headline-grabbing, and probably unconstitutional, since it places HM in the position of having to defend a particular government policy." Indeed, do you remember the recent Entente Cordiale anniversary in France, where the Queen made a speech, obviously written by Mr Blair, in which she extolled the virtues of European Defence? I thought this was outrageous! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:30:27 11/26/04 Fri I have to say that I am glad that I didn't see it, or my television would certainly have got a well-made Italian shoe crashing through its screen at about 37 feet per second, and then the old lady downstairs would have seen a broken television fly through my window and land in her herbacious border accompanied by strange Anglo-Saxon oaths from my floor which would have shocked her pure, innocent Catholic soul to its foundations; and both of these things would have cost me dearly... Did he really make HM talk about Euro defence? I feel slightly ill. If this goes any further I'm going to move to Rockies and take up yak farming and chase anyone away from my shack who tries to tell me news from dear old Blighty. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:38:30 11/26/04 Fri Here is the text of the speech, if you can bear to read it: Messieurs les Presidents, Ladies and Gentlemen Thank you for your most generous speech. I am grateful to you for this opportunity in these magnificent surroundings to meet so many members of both houses of the French Parliament, as well as some of their colleagues from both houses of the British Parliament, during this visit to mark the centenary of the Entente Cordiale. This anniversary gives this, my fourth, State Visit to France particular significance. Looking back, it marks the anniversary of the far-sighted agreement which laid the foundation for the vital alliance of our two countries throughout the turbulence of the twentieth century. Looking forward, it gives us both an opportunity to put behind us our recent tensions to address some of the challenges and opportunities ahead. We have both made the choice of Europe and the European Union as a principal vehicle for our economic and political aspirations. For both of us this does not, nor should not, in any way weaken our strong ties of friendship to the United States. These are complementary relationships. More than ever we are working to make Europe's voice in the world count, and to ensure that Europe's diplomacy can be backed up by military credibility where necessary and where NATO are not engaged. In a dangerous world our two nations have so much to offer when we use our strengths together - our diplomacy, our military capability, our common permanent membership of the Security Council, our positions at the heart of La Francophonie and the Commonwealth. Let us move on from our recent differences as our forbears did a hundred years ago. As we all know governments can only do so much. This is where our parliaments and our people can also guide us. Our mutual attachment to parliamentary democracy is the foundation of our common freedom and values. Democracy is the most precious gift we have and we can never take it for granted. Links between our two parliaments have long existed but have not been as broadly based or as deep as either side would like. National parliaments continue to have a huge role to play not only within our own countries but also in the development of the European Union of the future. Our two peoples are perhaps showing the way. We know each other better and better, as we visit each other more often, work together more effectively, settle in each other's countries, and enrich our two cultures whether it be in music or art, fashion or sport. It is at this all-important popular level that so much has been going on in recent years. Parliaments can not only follow these developments more closely, but can also lead them too. I hope the Entente Cordiale centenary will contribute to this. Messieurs les Presidents, thank you again for this magnificent reception and for the warmth of your hospitality. May I conclude by asking all present to join me in a toast to the Parliaments of France and the United Kingdom, and to the Entente Cordiale. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:58:16 11/26/04 Fri Settle in each other's countries? I think not. The South of France is practically a British colony, but how many French people think, "I know, I'll retire to Scunthorpe or Bognor Regis?" Not many, I should think. It's one-way traffic, really. Their fault for having better weather. Mind you, I don't know if you've been to Leicester Square recently (for your sake I hope not!), but the last few times I've been trying to get from the club in Pall Mall to China Town to get some crispy duck (sorry, but have to justify the social faux pas of being in Leics Sq.!), I haven't been able to move in Leicester Square for French school children. Perhaps this is what they mean by cultural exchange: they give us wine, food, sunshine, and pleasant little hill towns eparpillés in the Alps Maritimes... and we give them greasy burger bars, large cinemas showing crap films for £15 per ticket, embarassing street theatre, All Bar One and mangy looking pigeons. Vive l'Entente Corliale! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:11:50 11/26/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:36:42 11/26/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:59:01 11/26/04 Fri Everytime I am in Edinburgh, I hear French voices. Either a lot of French people live there, or they are all tourists. It's frustrating you know - everytime French people come to visit me, they insist on visiting Edinburgh within about five minnutes of arriving. I feel it is my duty to take them their via Glasgow, if only to show that Scotland actually achieved something in the 19th Century. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |