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Subject: Um...


Author:
Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 16:35:46 11/29/04 Mon
In reply to: Michael J. Smith (Canada) 's message, "Americans may be welcome to join...." on 16:06:15 11/29/04 Mon

I have a couple of points to make about that website.

Firstly, although the authors of the site listed point-by-point all the jolly good things about Canada, I rather do get the impression that this is an anti-US sentiment rather than a pro-Canadian sentiment, let alone a pro-Commonwealth or even pro-Anglosphere sentiment. I don't know if you had something in your papers earlier in the month about the East and West Coasts of America joining Canada and the rest - south and central USA - being renamed "Jesusland"? That sort of thing... It's an anti-Bush protest and little more - that business about the recent war in the Middle East is a case in point: Canada opposed it, but Britain and Austalia supported it, and quite right too, in my opinion. Does this make them pro-Commonwealth? No. Does it even make them pro-Canadian? I doubt it.

The second point is that I have been given to understand that the American Loyalist association (whatever it is called) has more members than the American communist party. This is encouraging on the one hand, but when you remember that, in both US and UK, the Communist Parties have a smaller membership than the British and American Flat Earth Societies, it begins to seem a little hopeless...

And in any case, I bloody hate Vermont! If I were Canadian I'd want to keep 'em out.

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[> [> Subject: Ed, you might hate Vermont, but...


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Brent (Canada)
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Date Posted: 13:26:13 11/30/04 Tue

...one of my Loyalist ancestors, Rev. Samuel Peters, is actually officially credited with giving the state its name. Also, my wife and I took a driving tour there on our honeymoon.

I beg to disagree.

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[> [> [> Subject: Fair enough


Author:
Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 15:00:06 11/30/04 Tue

But I am a city pigeon at heart, and find all those orchards and farmland and hills rather soul-destroying. Also I could never get used to the plaid shirts. Besides, it's bloody cold and anything less than 80 degrees makes me nervous and irritable!

But why did your ancestor decide on the name 'Vermont'? I should be interested to hear the story, because it's an unusual name.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Apparently it was a french flourish to make 'Green Mountain' sound more impressive...a reference to Killington Peak where he lived


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Brent (Canada)
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Date Posted: 17:00:04 11/30/04 Tue


Here's the link (although the claim, like most historical facts, is in dispute...probably because he was a "Tory")

http://www.dhca.state.vt.us/HistoricSites/html/markers2.html

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: And another thing...


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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 23:07:50 11/30/04 Tue

Why has everything in Vermont got the word "kill" in it? Killington, the river Battenkill... just frightening.

Mind you, everthing else seems to be named after something in Britain... Hartford, Manchester, Hampden. Perhaps there's hope for the place after all!

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