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Subject: My Thoughts...


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 14:38:36 11/30/04 Tue
In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "Thanks for your careful analysis Ian." on 13:52:09 11/30/04 Tue

The idea has its merits. I think you are right that to get New Zealand on board, you would have to give them the kind of representation that Scotland currently has at Westminster. This is another good reason for advocating Aus/NZ unification first.

However, 1300 MPs would require a new Parliament building, and would raise the question of what we do with the existing Parliaments, Two of which, are great historical assets. I liked the rotation idea mentioned earlier.

I am coming round to the idea of having a reasonably small Federal Government, with around 600 MPs. With this Government being responsible for foreign policy, defence, legal and constitutional matters, there is less of an argument for smaller, more representative constituencies.

I have some ideas which I will work on and present in due course…

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Could we make a Parliament of 1300 members work?


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 17:07:45 11/30/04 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: hmm - it would certainly create some noisy debates!


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 17:25:17 11/30/04 Tue

Order! Order!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I do not see why not...


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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 20:31:00 11/30/04 Tue

Especially if policy is to encourage devolution of local affairs. Also, if we halved the number of MPs it would dilute the people's power to vote-in a local representative to serve their local interests.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: More of my ideas...


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 23:03:20 11/30/04 Tue

State Province # of MPs
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Australasia New South Wales
(inc ACT and Jervis Bay) 74

Australasia New Zealand 43

Australasia Northern Territories 3

Australasia Norfolk Island 1

Australasia Queensland (inc Coral Sea Islands) 40

Australasia South Australia 16

Australasia Tasmania 7

Australasia Victoria 54

Australasia Western Australia
(inc Christmas Island) 22

British Isles Bermuda 1

British Isles British East Caribbean Islands
(Anguilla, BVI, Montserrat) 1

British Isles British South Atlantic Islands
(Falklands, South Georgia,
South Sandwich, St Helena,
Ascension etc) 1

British Isles British West Caribbean Islands
(Cayman, Turks and Caicos) 1

British Isles England 525

British Isles Gibraltar 1

British Isles Isle of Man 2

British Isles Jersey 2

British Isles Northern Ireland 18

British Isles Scotland 59

British Isles Wales 34

Canada Alberta 30

Canada British Columbia 38

Canada Manitoba 15

Canada New Brunswick 10

Canada Newfoundland and Labrador 7

Canada Northwest Territories 1

Canada Nova Scotia 12

Canada Nunavut 1

Canada Ontario 112

Canada Prince Edward Island 4

Canada Quebec 79

Canada Saskatchewan 15

Canada Yukon 1

Commonwealth
Overseas Territories Commonwealth Antarctic Territory
(Australian and British sectors,
Heard and McDonald Islands) 0

Commonwealth
Overseas Territories Commonwealth Cypriot Territory
(Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri
and Dhekelia) 0

Commonwealth
Overseas Territories Commonwealth Indian Ocean Territory
(Deigo Garcia and minor
outlying islands,
Cocos/Keeling Islands) 0

Commonwealth
Overseas Territories Commonwealth Pacific Territory
(Pitcairn, Henderson,
Ducie, Oeno and Sandy) 0

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TOTAL MPs 1230


Perhaps they could all sit in the existing buildings, linked by video?

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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 23:04:26 11/30/04 Tue


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 09:55:24 12/01/04 Wed

Commonwealth MPs by Region/Province

Total: 1230


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Australasia
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New South Wales (inc ACT and Jervis Bay)
74

New Zealand
43

Northern Territories
3

Norfolk Island
1

Queensland (inc Coral Sea Islands)
40

South Australia
16

Tasmania
7

Victoria
54

Western Australia (inc Christmas Island)
22

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British Isles
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Bermuda
1

British East Caribbean Islands (Anguilla, BVI, Montserrat)
1

British South Atlantic Islands (Falklands, South Georgia, South Sandwich, St Helena, Ascension etc)
1

British West Caribbean Islands (Cayman, Turks and Caicos)
1

England
525

Gibraltar
1

Isle of Man
2

Jersey
2

Northern Ireland
18

Scotland
59

Wales
34

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Canada
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Alberta
30

British Columbia
38

Manitoba
15

New Brunswick
10

Newfoundland and Labrador
7

Northwest Territories
1

Nova Scotia
12

Nunavut
1

Ontario
112

Prince Edward Island
4

Quebec
79

Saskatchewan
15

Yukon
1

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Commonwealth Overseas Territories (No Parliamentary Representation)

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Commonwealth Antarctic Territory (Australian and British sectors, Heard and McDonald Islands)
Commonwealth Cypriot Territory (Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia)
Commonwealth Indian Ocean Territory (Deigo Garcia and minor outlying islands, Cocos/Keeling Islands)
Commonwealth Pacific Territory (Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie, Oeno and Sandy)

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