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] Date Posted: 20:25:29 12/02/04 Thu In reply to: Owain (UK) 's message, "right wing youth" on 19:50:13 12/02/04 Thu Right wing national pride can be a good thing if it is not taken too far. My worry with the UK is that will it be national pride for Britain or just England, Scotland, Wales or Ulster? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:37:39 12/02/04 Thu ... Young people in our country are travelling a lot more than their parents' generation did (the so-called "Easy-Jet Setters"); and, as Ian has argued on this forum, that is something which almost universally opens people's eyes to cultural realities. I don't think it is a coincidence that my parents were better travelled as 'young adults' than most of their generation, and are all for the Commonwealth and allergic to the EEC. Many, indeed I would say most, of people around my age who are both educated and well-travelled are conservative, patriotic and eurosceptic. As for local patriotism within the British regions, I think that the same forces apply. I doubt that many SNP voters spend a good time in England; and Scots who do spend time working or living south of the border are more likely than not to discover - shock! horror! - that the Sassenachs are not bogeymen who lure children into their gingerbread houses and plot the exploitation of Scotland in leather armchairs whilst clutching globes of brandy in talon-like fingers, but are in fact just ordinary people who differ from Scots in not much more than accent and ability to cope with cold weather. Oh, and Frank, you're not alone! Socialism in all its forms is distinctly dodgy, and, if the US wants to make its health care system even worse, then the way to do it would be to adopt the British model of centralised, bureaucratic nightmare-healthcare, which has now become the biggest state-sector employer anywhere in the world since the collapse of Soviet Russia, with a workforce of 2 million, and waiting lists to match, and still we can't cure anyone... We should scrap the whole thing, remove it from the tax bill, and make insurance compulsory. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:55:46 12/02/04 Thu On a more serious note: While socialism and Europeanism, in even the mildest of forms, is enough to induce gnashing of teeth and involuntary spasms within every sinew of my being, I have grave reservations about US style healthcare. While I do not dispute that the level of care and medical prowess in the US is greater, the fact remains that healthcare ceases to be an emergency service, like fire or police. I have grave reservations about the prospect of me being wheeled into a hospital on a trolley whilst being quizzed “what kinda insurance you got honey?” by some over-zealous administrator, during brief bouts of consciousness. I agree that the NHS should be reformed totally, to cut out the bulk of the expenses such as: More managers than patients. Subsidised drugs. Free surgery for the purposes of vanity. Free drugs for feckless wasters. Etc etc etc… [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:57:34 12/02/04 Thu "Sassenachs are not bogeymen who lure children into their gingerbread houses and plot the exploitation of Scotland in leather armchairs whilst clutching globes of brandy in talon-like fingers" I was wondering if you lifted this from the SNP website? :-) [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:09:52 12/02/04 Thu Although I see it in Eye-Tie not English... but I guess that the original would have been something like that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:23:16 12/02/04 Thu He does serve as the inspiration behind much political thinking (or lack of) at Holyrood. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Nick (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:02:38 12/03/04 Fri If there's one thing that post-1945 Britain has done right it's create an NHS that could centrally purchase drugs and then pass them on for (in many cases) a fraction of their cost to patients who NEED them. I think being ill is one moment in anyone's life when the basic tenet of COMMUNISM (to each according to his need...) is EXACTLY RIGHT, and the US system is a DISASTER for people who require expensive or long-term drug care. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:48:15 12/03/04 Fri I agree with you in principle. However, in practice, things are different. My attack was on the current prescription fraud, rather than providing cheaper drugs to the long-term ill. The first part of the communist ethos (from each, according to their means) is not being practiced here. Why should I, for example, expect the state to provide subsidised hay-fever tablets all summer, when I can well afford them myself? We have an enormous problem in Britain with people who are addicted to prescription drugs. GPs are being inundated with habitual bogus patients who pester Doctors for repeat prescriptions of certain drugs. Some of these GPs routinely adhere to the requests, if only for an easy life. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:43:59 12/03/04 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |