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Subject: Some Thought!


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Gary
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Date Posted: 17:30:03 09/19/04 Sun
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In reply to: Lyssa 's message, "Suicidal Thoughts...I'm There!" on 23:34:43 09/18/04 Sat

Dear Lyssa,

Yes, there is a fair amount of information about what happens when you commit suicide. The information comes from near-death accounts. There are several books (check Amazon.com), but I have not read them.

However, I do have an interest in near-death studies, and the feedback on suicides is all the same. These are people who thought it would be better to die, but who ended up being recused in some fashion medically. Their conclusions are:

1. They do not wish to take their life again. They discovered that life is a gift, and therefore precious.

2. They discovered that they do go on living, but that the attempt to take their life was a mistake. By mistake, I mean two things: 1) It didn't solve any problems, and 2) they were better off going through their challenges here.

Besides the near-death studies, there is also information available now on why we chose our life (and the experiences that life will expose us to). While there have been people doing life regression work for years and years, some are specializing in "life between life" regression. This is where we go after death. It is also from there that we chose our next adventure. Some of us select very difficult encounters. You seem to be one of those people.

Why would you select such a life that you have experienced? I don't know, but from the other size it offered you something that you wanted. By wanted, I mean an opportunity to grow in some area. I would also check out these books. Michael Newton, Ph.D., is the individual who developed this field, just like Raymond Moody, M.D., openned up the near-death field.

Some suggestions:

1) Research and read in the above two fields. This is "no-bull" information.

2) Take a longer frame of reference than where you are right now. When an individual is young, it seems that the world is hopeless from where they are. But is that true? I have a friend who is writting her second book. This book is why some people get through tough times, and others do not. For example, in war, the young give up and die while the older soliders and sailors hang on and live. Why? Because they have more tough times under their belt, and they know the sun comes up the next day. Read about survival, and how one does it (I probably could get you a reading list from this author if you wish).

3. Life experiences, such as yours, are a giant gift from the Universe to you (which may be why you signed up for it). But the gift in them comes years and years later. It comes in your understanding that can them help others. Others will follow you because you have been there and know. This is like the concept that prision immates or drug addicts make excellent counselors, to others in the same situation, once they get their lives together.

4. Get a better understanding of hwo life works. Question what I or others say you should believe. You must test those beliefs, and determine if they will work for you.

5. Live only in the moment. This is very important for you, because the future is bleak. Concentrate on doing well what is in front of you. Concentrate on the now. Get through this minute, hour, then day. If you try to live further ahead, you will get discouraged. And since you know how tough life is, try to give kindness to others in need.

6. Read books on transitions. You are in one. A transition has an Ending, the Void, and New Beginnings. You are in the Ending phase. The Void phase, which you can already sense, is in front of you. In that phase, you are, well, in a Void. You don't know what to do. But out of the Void will emerge a New Beginning. You can not rush the New Beginning, nor predict what it will be. The author who discovered this life experience is William Bridges. Another author is Unity minister Robert Brumet: "Finding Yourself in Transition." By the way, my recent transition experience lasted from 1998 through two weeks ago. I would not wish anybody to ge through what I went through, and I don't understand why I had to go through it, but transitions do end and the ending is better than before you started your transition.

7. Understand that stuff happens to people. Yes, you got yourself into your present troubles, but you were also lead there by life. You are in your situation for a purpose (again, you will not know that purpose for many, many years).

8. Pain. If you think you have pain now, please realize that when you die from suicide, you will find yourself facing the pain others have from your passing. When you cross over, most experience a life review. They sense how their actions helped or hurt others. Intention was the key. For a sucide, the grief they caused others seems to be with them until the other people's feelings of grief subside. We are interconnected with each other, but that connection is far more real on the other side.

Do not accept what I've written above. Check it out for yourself. You are young and bright. This material can be obtained from a library or purchased.

You have experience a massive amount of bad stuff. It is there on purpose in your life. Why waste the intensity of the emotions you feel. Instead, investigate the why and how of what life is about. You may well have the time. As for resources, the Universe (God, etc.) will provide as you need resources.

Finally, I would also suggest Robert Scheinfeld's book "The Invisible Path to Success." This is one of the best non-religious books on how prayer (and in a way life) works.

Finally, you are deeply loved. Loved by people here, by people on the other side you do not remember, and by God. You knew of that love before you came here, and you can get back in touch with that love with the passage of time and with practice. We all are cheering your progress, because you have picked such a difficult life (you are the Special Forces soliders in life). What you heal is healed for us all.

Now, ask me further questions. Do some reading, and ask more questions.

Love,

Gary

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Re: Suicidal Thoughts...I'm There!Allen Wicklund11:42:16 12/14/04 Tue
    Re: Suicidal Thoughts...I'm There!Gary17:36:12 12/14/04 Tue


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