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Subject: I might as well be ignored on my own board as well...


Author:
Kris
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Date Posted: 14:02:11 06/12/03 Thu

From Planetout.com:

Within hours of the Ontario Court of Appeals ruling that legalized same-sex marriages in the Canadian province, plaintiffs Michael Leshner and Michael Stark were married in a civil ceremony in front of a group of about fifty friends. Many other gay and lesbian couples, including Americans, are expected to follow suit, as provincial leaders confirmed Wednesday that they will follow the court's orders. "I'm charged to follow the laws and will follow the laws with regards to this matter," Ontario Attorney General Norm Sterling told Canada.com.

In Canada's capital, Federal Justice Minister Martin Cauchon said the government knows it must find a prompt "national solution" to the question of same-sex marriages. Courts in Quebec and British Columbia have ruled that same-sex marriages must be legal. But unlike the Ontario Court, the ruling judges in the other cases gave the government a deadline of July, 2004, to take action. Yesterday's ruling, which took effect at once, made next year's deadline irrelevant, as couples from throughout the country may now marry in Ontario.

Syndicated news reporter Rex Wockner spoke Wednesday with the Toronto city clerk's office, which confirmed that couples who marry in Ontario are not required to be a resident of the country, meaning that American couples may go to Canada to marry.

Couples must first apply for a license with clerk, Wockner said. Subsequently, they must have the marriage solemnized by a judge, justice of the peace or an appropriate authorized religious representative. The person who conducts the ceremony then files paperwork with the Ontario Provincial Office of the Registrar General, and the married couple may apply to receive their official marriage certificate in about 12 weeks.

Evan Wolfson, Executive Director of Freedom to Marry, confirmed that anyone may marry in Canada. American couples who do so, he warns, should realize that they will be "as married as anybody on the planet." The decision is not a political gesture. "It's not just a sign-up on a list," said Wolfson. "They will be assuming all the responsibilities and commitments of marriage, and when they come home -- although they might face uncertainties and discrimination -- they will be married."

Wolfson anticipates that it will take a few years for American courts and legislators to agree on the status of gay Americans who marry in Canada. During this time, Wolfson says these couples will have a unique chance "every day to role model what married gay Americans look like, and help dispel the scare tactics of the religious right."

Although litigation is a sure bet, as certain states or public agencies resist recognition of the Canadian same-sex marriages, Wolfson cautions couples not to race across the border and come home ready for a lawsuit. On behalf of all gay and lesbian couples seeking the right to marry in the United States, he says, such suits should be chosen strategically and handled, he hopes, by legal groups who are well-experienced in working on the fight for marriage in the courts.


My comments: Okay it isn't the whole bowl of Cheerios yet. But it's getting there. AND as the world circles around the "in its own mind 'most progressive nation on Earth'" will have to get off its ass and live up to its ego. My prediction? By 2025 gays will be able to marry and have all the same benefits of marriage: a partner unable/inwilling to pay his bills, bankruptcy, and creditors calling *yes I know its his bill but YOU are married to him*... Welcome to heaven bois.

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[> Subject: *ignores Kris and sings "In the year 2525"*


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Wolfie
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Date Posted: 15:35:05 06/12/03 Thu


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[> [> Subject: Sorry, did you say something, T?


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Trevor/TJ
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Date Posted: 18:12:02 06/12/03 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: I was singing ... IN THE YEAR 2525 ...


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Wolfie
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Date Posted: 18:34:39 06/12/03 Thu

... If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find...

In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do, and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to do
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms are hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got nothing to do
Some machine is doing that for you

In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube

In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
Maybe he'll look around himself and say
''Guess it's time for the Judgement day''

In the year 8510
God's gonna shake his mighty head
He'll either say ''I'm pleased where man has been''
Or tear it down and start again

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man's gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing...

Now it's been 10,000 years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man's reign is through
But through the eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it's only yesterday

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[> [> [> [> Subject: I had that one on vinyl..


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Kris
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Date Posted: 20:47:39 06/12/03 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Vinyl? Wow, you're old!


Author:
Wolfie
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Date Posted: 22:28:43 06/12/03 Thu

*runs and hides*

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: young whippersnappers! *grumbles*


Author:
Kris
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Date Posted: 08:28:19 06/13/03 Fri


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[> Subject: Comes back from the dead just to ignore Kris on her own board!


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Granny
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Date Posted: 20:14:05 06/13/03 Fri


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[> [> Subject: Welcome Back! Good to see ya.


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Trevor/TJ
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Date Posted: 22:12:04 06/13/03 Fri

Hmm - does this really qualify as living? Me thinks it debateable. "Hey!" anyway.

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[> [> [> Subject: Oh its living.. it just aint "a life" or reality....


Author:
Kris
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Date Posted: 08:52:39 06/14/03 Sat


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[> Subject: *ignores Kris some more, so she doesn't feel unignored*


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Wolfie
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Date Posted: 19:54:30 06/14/03 Sat


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