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Date Posted: - Friday - 02/ 2/07 - 11:58pm
Author: Bill Kranidis
Subject: Well............................
In reply to: Chuck 's message, "Bill, can you claify?" on - Thursday - 02/ 1/07 - 8:21pm

Hi Chuck.

I don't think that there is any mention on the website that Garden was the designer of the TM36. What happened is that Clair, during liquidation of FEY, sold maybe just one of the M36 molds and they ended up in Taiwan.

As far as Garden having been the designer of the M35......lets put the dots together. Hardin used to work for Garden. Hardin was one of the first Americans to look into the Far East for boatbuilding. Hardin and Clair were good friends..........:-)

I spoke to Bill Garden (he claimed that ONLY the M35 was his design), I spoke to Clair, got an email from Clair's chief carpenter, and got alot of information concerning this issue. It's all under the Far East Yachts pages on the website. I arranged it that so anyone can see, step by step what really happened.

What do I think ??? Bill Hardin was the person responsible for the infusion of Garden influenced designs to the Far East. Do you blame Clair for seeing such a beautiful design as the M35 and expanding it into a full line of cruisers with the help of such competent crew as the Japanese were ??? I wish I had the chance to do that :-)

The fact that later, Garden's influence reached Taiwan's shores and building quality suffered greatly, is indeed a travesty.

I say, kudos to Bill Garden for being one of the best naval designers, kudos to Bill Hardin for being a great businessman and kudos to Clair for believing in a design and building great boats in the proccess.

Now, the Taiwanese boatbuilders.......................:-)


Best,
Bill Kranidis

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[> [> Thanks Bill -- Chuck, Mariner 40, Sea Trek, - Saturday - 02/ 3/07 - 2:35pm

Although the individual that originally posted the thread and needs to continually prove his importance and knowledge points out that the Tayana Mariner 36 brochure does indeed say it is a Garden design. Thanks though for once again providing us with further details about our great boats


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[> [> [> Chuck, I just checked out the thread you were talking about -- Bill Kranidis, - Saturday - 02/ 3/07 - 4:21pm

Hi, Chuck.

Please tell that guy to learn something about advertising and PR. By the time the TM36 was built, Bill garden had no rights to the name and design than my next door neighbor did. If they could call it a Garden design and suffer no consequenses why not do it ??? Blame Capitalism for it. !!! Jesus H. Christ !!!. Looking for importance is more like it. Tell the guy to give me a shout :-)

Best,
Bill Kranidis


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[> [> [> [> Passed it on -- Chuck, Mariner 40, Sea Trek, - Saturday - 02/ 3/07 - 10:48pm

Passed on your response. It is a pity that some folks have nothing else to do with their lives than impress on everyone else how smart and important they are. I need to go sailing again.


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