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Date Posted: 01:03:20 05/19/05 Thu
Author: Silk
Subject: Re: Defending Return of the Jedi
In reply to: Dog of War 's message, "Defending Return of the Jedi" on 22:47:16 05/18/05 Wed

I thought Luke's attack on Jabba's palace was cool, but the rest excessive. Also, this section raises huge chronological issues.

In Empire Yoda tells Luke that he's not yet a Jedi, that his training's incomplete, and he can't face Vader. When he does so, he comes off as pretty inexperienced, (and that Skywalker trait - whining - is prevalent).

When he sees Yoda in Jedi, Yoda tells him he's completed the necessary training, and he'll become a Jedi by facing Vader.

What the f . . . ?

I'd always thought that between Empire and Jedi Luke had gone back to get more training, which is why he's decidedly tougher in Jedi, but it seems that's not the case. So why the evolution in Luke and the turnaround from Yoda? (That's not to mention that Luke's training lasts all of 3 or 4 days on Dagobah - that's some crash-course; I measure the time by the time it took the Millennium Falcon to get to Cloud City, as both stories run parallel).

The space-battle in Jedi is awesome, but inventing a second Death Star was redundant, (and the framework of the first one appears in Sith, so if that took 17 years to complete, how'd they get the second one out so quick? Also, the Death Star was essentially reinvented in Phantom Menace with the Control Ship).

Then there's the acting; Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher didn't seem overly interested, the woman who played Mon Mothma grossly overacted, and nobody seemed to know how to treat the Ewoks, (who I hated back then, too; btw, why wouldn't they see Chewbacca - a bigger version of themselves - as a God as opposed to C3PO?)

Overall, I thought the movie was a hodge-podge of filler-scenes designed to flesh out the flick one hundred minutes, with the only truly interesting bits between Luke and the Emperor (and even that tended to fizzle out).

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Re: Defending Return of the Jedi -- Dog of War, 18:13:26 05/19/05 Thu