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Date Posted: 18:13:26 05/19/05 Thu
Author: Dog of War
Subject: Re: Defending Return of the Jedi
In reply to: Silk 's message, "Re: Defending Return of the Jedi" on 01:03:20 05/19/05 Thu

In Empire Yoda tells Luke that he's not yet a Jedi, that his training's incomplete, and he can't face Vader. When he does so, he comes off as pretty inexperienced, (and that Skywalker trait - whining - is prevalent).

When he sees Yoda in Jedi, Yoda tells him he's completed the necessary training, and he'll become a Jedi by facing Vader.

Well, the difference is, by the time he goes back to Yoda, he HAS faced Vader. I think this is the significant change. Luke has survived Vader face to face, he's learned that Vader is his father. It's these experiences that have tempered Luke, forced him to grow up. It's very clear that by the very beginning of Jedi, Luke is no longer the whiny petulant kid he was in the first two films. His rage at Vader's killing his father has changed to a desire to save him, and I think this is the emotional block he needed to get over to become a true Jedi.

The space-battle in Jedi is awesome, but inventing a second Death Star was redundant, (and the framework of the first one appears in Sith, so if that took 17 years to complete, how'd they get the second one out so quick? Also, the Death Star was essentially reinvented in Phantom Menace with the Control Ship).

Yes, but these are flaws of the prequels, not of RotJ itself. Lucas was fine until he started rewriting history and making illogical changes to the core story (i.e. the force is a blood parasite, instead of just a nebulous magical energy).

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