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Roger Buxton
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Date Posted: 14:00:05 05/01/03 Thu
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M.S. Haliburton per jfh
's message, "Daily Digest. international observers?" on 11:21:04 05/01/03 Thu
M.S. Haliburton,
I understand your interesting experience with youth substitution happen all across the country. I was a scrutineer for David in 7 meetings in the Edmonton - Red Deer area of Alberta. It never happened us until we got to the very last meeting in Red Deer. When it happened to us there I was completely taken by surprise. Of course I appealed the decision to no avail. The worst part is that the Red Deer DRO did not understand the rule either and during the audience instruction was asked a question about how the youth would be dealt with on the ballot. He replied that since there were only 2 MacKay supports that were youth on the ballot they were would be automatic delegates to the convention. Because of this information hardly anyone voted for the youth so they were give the last 2 delegate positions, 1 Orchard and 1 Prentice. The Rule that was used to justify that position was 9.10.3.
Now lets take a look at that Rule. The total section on tallying the ballots is as follows:
9.10 The DRO, ADRO or SDRO, from the tally of all ballots for delegate candidates (Form 7), shall for the purposes of selecting delegates:
9.10.1 Produce a list of all delegate candidates in rank order of votes obtained, noting beside each name the leadership candidate for whom the individual declared or whether the delegate candidate was undeclared and, if applicable, indicate if the delegate candidate is eligible to be elected as a youth delegate.
9.10.2 Produce a checklist having sections for Leadership Candidates/Undeclared, and indicating the number of delegates to which each Leadership Candidate/ Undeclared has been determined to be entitled.
9.10.3 Starting at the top of the ranked delegate candidate list, determine if that person's leadership candidate or undeclared status is entitled to a delegate. If not, the individual is not a delegate. If so, then check whether the delegate candidate is a youth and if so, that delegate candidate is elected and write that delegate candidate’s name in the appropriate place on the Leadership Candidate/Undeclared checklist and note that the delegate candidate is a youth. If the delegate candidate is a senior delegate (i.e., not a youth), determine whether the maximum number of eight (8) senior delegates have been selected. If so the individual is not a delegate. If not, list the delegate candidate as elected, and write the delegate candidate's name in the appropriate place on the Leadership Candidate/Undeclared checklist.
9.10.4 Repeat the process for all delegate candidates, proceeding down the list in rank order. If, at any time, the delegate candidate does not qualify to fill a remaining vacancy on the Leadership Candidate/Undeclared checklist or as a senior delegate, that delegate candidate is not elected. Proceed until all delegate positions are filled.
9.10.5 In the event of a tie, the delegate shall be determined by the toss of a coin.
Please take special note of 9.10.3. I cannot understand. I thought maybe I was just not smart enough to grasp the rule from reading it. So I asked 3 of my friends if they could understand the rule. 2 of them were Lawyers and 1 was a Former English professor of English literature. None of them could understand the rule either. Now I ask you how could the ordinary public understand this rule? How many others of you that read that rule instantly understood it with out an explanation from someone in the Management committee or Leadership Select Committee?
In closing, the number of irregularities in this process are fast becoming a scandal that does remind one a little of 3rd World Politics. I am very much afraid that we are really limiting the potential for this party to grow as it so desperately needs to do if we are ever going to have an alternative to the Liberal and the current one party state we are in. Thank You Mr. Haliburton for telling us about your concern.
Long Time Conservative
President of the Wetaskiwin Federal PC. Assoc.
Roger Buxton
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