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Subject: The current exiting quarrel distracts public attention from Alie’s original topic: America is a fascist country. Is it true?

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brattyratty

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Date Posted: Saturday, October 04 2003, 2:47:12 GMT ( - 8 )

If we use the world �fascism� not as a common insult ( like the word �bitch� for example. But I recently found out that �bitch� is just a female dog, one of the kindest creatures in the world. At least my dictionary says so) but in more narrow political meaning we can say �Fascism is national-socialism, that is a kind of socialism using nationalism as its official ideology. � It also has some kind of Great Leader ( Fuhrer) so it�s mostly a dictatorship.
Does America meet these conditions?
America is a socialist country in many ways. She has such socialistic attributes as some nationalized industries, support of family, the political police ( FBI, CIA, EPA etc), compulsory public education, social security, price control, cartelised political structure ( though to be accurate two-party system is not one-party system but I don�t think the difference is huge especially if both parties are socialist ones), racial quotas in colleges, government-funded health-care, strict government�s control over private businesses ( over banks especially) and other stuff typical for Hitler�s Germany. ( You must admit however that it is not American exclusive features. European countries have the same and even more, like, for example, Nazi�s policy of disarming citizens).
However America doesn�t meet two other conditions. American official ideology is not nationalism but some foggy mixture of patriotism, multiculturalism, free market, socialism, environmentalism, geopolitics so on. ( if you take a risk to name this mess �ideology�). And then, America is not a dictatorship. She is a democracy. Of course, democracy in no way is better than dictatorship but technically it�s not the same.

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[> Subject: The more you write on politics the more confusing you become - I believe you could be described as a NEOANARSERVATIVE which is of course is a combination ANARCHIST AND EXTREME NEO CONSERVATIVE that of course being an oxymoron makes me think perhaps genetics are involved - could it be you are the progeny of an ULTRA CONSERVATIVE WHO GOT BANGED BY AN ANARCHIST AND LIKED IT BUT WILL NEVER ADMIT IT!

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<:)duck
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 04 2003, 21:41:08 GMT ( - 8 )

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[> [> Subject: Excuse me it�s you not me who confuse everything

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brattyratty
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Date Posted: Monday, October 06 2003, 1:52:14 GMT ( - 8 )

Comparing me to neo- conservatives? Hah! You are living in the country where they rule and you haven�t realized yet who they are? They are pure socialists, even more than an average liberal. Look at the budget statistics! They spend on those stupid �social needs�� more than Clinton & Co! Have you seen a neocon who is agree with me that public education should be abolished? No, they say �no child behind� and throw another billions into that dirty hole. Have you seen a neocon who is agree with me that all kind of foreign aid should be stopped? No, they are ardent supporters of those socialist charity agencies like WTO and are ready to feed them forever. Have you ever seen a neocon who is agree with me that Democracy is shit? No, they love it so much that easily kill both Americans and Iraqis to expend this pagan religion onto Middle East.
( Yes, I know you liberals don�t believe in it and you are inventing fantastic versions about reasons of the war but it�s just a mental self-defence. To admit that those assholes are convinced socialists and they worship the same sacred cow Democracy that nice guys? Never never! Let it be oil companies, weapon producers, other gangs of greedy capitalists, Bush�s personal stupidity, cow madness, aliens� conspiracy, whatever but truth.)

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[> [> [> Subject: Yea I'm with you bratty - TO HELL WITH A SOCIAL CONSCIENCE - MISANTHROPES RULE - or as SHE REPORTEDLY SAID (while her vocal cords still were functional) "LET THEM EAT CAKE"
Author: <:) duck/ed [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Tuesday, October 07 2003, 13:14:00 GMT ( - 8 ) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, and she was justly punished for her political incorrectness. As well as her son and thousands of others. And then in 20th century kind-hearted socialists killed 100 000 000 greedy misanthropes. The social conscience is a great thing, really.
Author: brattyratty [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Wednesday, October 08 2003, 11:43:14 GMT ( - 8 ) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Socialism

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Kevin
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Date Posted: Monday, October 06 2003, 8:03:14 GMT ( - 8 )

I think America has sort of an advanced socialism. We could probably use a little more of socialism actually. To many Americans, don't really give a crap about anybody but themselves. Many of the people that didn't actually elect our President, but did vote for him would rather save 10 bucks in their check than wipe out hunger and homelessness, or even provide healthcare to all who need it. That is sad really, but true. The evidence shows us that republicans are the party of the rich. Most of them are foolish enough to think they are rich enough to be republicans. They need to ask themselves, 'Do I make over 3 million dollars every year?" If the answer is no, you are not rich enough to benefit from the noeconservative platform. Hope they wake up and realize they are getting screwed to.

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