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Subject: Be afraid America


Author:
Alie
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Date Posted: Monday, July 05 2004, 4:35:54 GMT ( - 8 )

of your noble administration because they are the scum of the earth.

They even have imprisoned hundreds of small children in Abu Ghoraib and other places, and they tortured small children.

Nobody can tell me the Washington pond scum didn't know of that, or not support it.

The whole Iraq war business was sick sick sick from the beginning, but this really tops it all. Obviously nothing is too horrible as long as it keeps the US in oil and Halliburton and the likes in profits.

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[> Subject: agreed that bush and assc. are pond scum but------


Author:
rob
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Date Posted: Monday, July 05 2004, 12:33:04 GMT ( - 8 )

with all due respect,kindly post PROOF of your assertions about children and please be very specific..ie times,dates,places,and or people involved.Its one thing to rant,and i suppose one has the right,please rant with proof. .......rob

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[> [> Subject: Proof


Author:
Alie
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 06 2004, 6:07:30 GMT ( - 8 )

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6430.htm

There are more sources but I guess that you are less than fluent in the German language.

It will be the same as with the Abu Ghoraib scandal - well known and censored for months by the pond scum until it's too well known by the public to further censor it away. After that nobody but a few misguided troups will be responsible and Rumsfield will admit that he had the report for months but had not read it yet.

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[> [> Subject: It was in the L.A. Times this week about charges of some enlisted man due to the abuse of two Iraqi Children ages I believe 13 and 14 both young girls - READ THE NEWS ROB - that's just the tip of the iceberg -


Author:
<:)Duck
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 07 2004, 6:33:51 GMT ( - 8 )

Remember how the N. Vietnamese treated our prisoners of war?
Remember how the N. Koreans treated prisoners of war?
How about how the Japanese treated them or the Nazi's -

How horrified we were to believe that such barbarism could exist in the 20th century -

Now it's American troops doing the same thing - and more and more abuse is surfacing and the administration is still
blaming it on a few bad apples and denying that the memos from admin lawers stating that the President or Sec of Defense etc could LEGALLY order torture - were more then just 'discussions' of the various scenarios yea sure

the rest of the world now spells America as ameriKA and unfortunately their picture of what this country has become is probably much closer to the truth then most us citizens can accept - in 3 years we have gone from one of the most admired countries in the world to the THE MOST HATED!!

BUT IT'S PROBABLY OK AFTER ALL "GOD" TOLD HIM TO DO IT AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT GOD IS ON THE SIDE OF THE RED WHITE AND BLUE ---- quack!

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[> [> [> Subject: ps - the abuse of these young girls occurred in the same Bagdad prison what ever the fuck they call it where our soldiers tooks nice snapshots of themselves doing their evil deeds to other iraqi prisoners


Author:
<:)duck
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 07 2004, 6:37:14 GMT ( - 8 )


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[> Subject: Hi Ali, - current administration in many ways reminds me of one in ur country about 60+ years ago - Take over a country and put in a puppet regime - human rights abuses - let a few peons take the rap while the administration issues denials and more denials and deny their denials - but


Author:
<:)just a duck
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 07 2004, 6:22:30 GMT ( - 8 )

seems many in the Pentagon and the White House have the same kind of penchant for record keeping that the Reich had.

Memo's and various other communications are now surfacing and it's almost amusing if it wern't so tragic to watch the Generals and Rumsfeld and his neo cohorts try to defend these communications and convince everybody that they meant something else or that they were simply 'discussions' of various possibilities that were never implemented - yea sure we are all idiots and we can claim "but we didn't know it was going on" -- sound familiar --

Born and raised in the good old USA - after half century there certainly were many times when I disagreed over the direction both domestic and international that America followed - We like almost every country have stumbled - not followed our supposed ideals - and definitely done some self-serving evil deeds - BUT I HAVE NEVER EVER REPEAT NEVER HAVE BEEN AS ASHAMED FOR WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME AS I HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST 2 YEARS - THE NEXT TIME 'he' TALKS ABOUT THE AXIS OF EVIL OR USES THAT WORD - HE SHOULD STARE IN THE MIRROR -

THANK GOD THE SUPREME COURT RECENTLY PUT A LIMIT ON HIS MANIC DESIRE FOR POWER - AT LEAST HE CAN NO LONGER JUST LOCK UP WHOMEVER HE FEELS LIKE AND THROW AWAY THE KEY WITHOUT ANY CHARGES - IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WAS HIS POSITION - CLAIMING HE COULD DO JUST THAT TO ANYBODY HE WANTED DO AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF - JUST LIKE SADAAM OR ADOLF OR DOZENS OF OTHER DESPOTS -

OH WELL I RANT YET STILL CLOSE TO HALF THE COUNTRY SUPPORTS HIM - MINDLESS SHEEP WHO IN THEIR FEAR ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP ALL THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS STOOD FOR BECAUSE HE PROMISES THEM A LITTLE SECURITY WHEN IN FACT HE HAS PLACED US ALL IN MUCH MUCH GREATER DANGER OF TERRORISM THEN EVER EXISTED BEFORE!! I STILL RANT

BY THE WAY STARTED MANY EMAILS TO YOU BUT SOMEHOW NEVER GET THEM SENT - SOON! HOPE ALL IS OK AND YOUR WELL

TAKE CARE

<:)ME

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[> [> Subject: Hi Duckie, I'm still alive


Author:
Alie
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 20 2004, 11:26:05 GMT ( - 8 )

just barely though. I managed to get myself in a maelstrom of work and can't find a way out of it. I started countless emails too but I usually collapse faster than I can fire up Outlook. If this goes on much longer I'll have to start sending people empty emails so they know I still exist.
Hugs,
Alie

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[> [> [> Subject: Yeah, what she said.


Author:
Trevor/TJ
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Date Posted: Friday, July 30 2004, 22:39:23 GMT ( - 8 )

Hey - good to see you guys still around and kickin'. I've just been soooo busy I haven't been on the net much in a long time. Take care.

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