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Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory


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Date Posted: 00:13:41 11/01/02 Fri
In reply to: Shannie 's message, "Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory" on 23:59:08 10/31/02 Thu

I never said you DIDN'T have great marks, now did I? Let me refresh your memory again...you were working on a paper that counted for a large percentage of your final grade, a very LONG paper (thirty pages, I think), and you had almost finished it when your computer crashed. You hadn't saved it since the 11th page, and you were freaking out that you wouldn't be able to redo the whole paper before the deadline in the morning, and if the paper wasn't turned in on time you'd get a failing grade on it, which would drop your average too low. You finally got in touch with the instructor and told her what had happened and she extended your deadline.

I specifically asked you at an earlier point why you'd decided to take this particular course, and you told me that at the time, it was the only nursing field job that you could train for that didn't require a lot of physical activity that would strain your back. You weren't looking forward to doing this type of work because there wasn't any real medical contact with patients, but you were required to re-train in order to continue receiving payments.

The 100% disability rule is the same in the US (thank you for clarifying that it works the same way in Canada), therefore, unless you are 100% disabled, you HAVE to be re-trained for another type of work. You never claimed to be at 100%, therefore you fall under the same guidelines concerning re-training, so how am I lying? I said that unless a person is 100% disabled, a recipient has to be trained for another job so they can re-enter the workforce. Where's the untruth in that?

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Date Posted: 00:42:23 11/01/02 Fri

Pam, the way you worded it, was like I was just skating on thin ice, marks-wise..and that if I couldn't finish this paper (due to having lost it in my computer, because I used shitty Micrsoft WOrks, which doesn't have an auto-save feature), I would fail, therefore I'd not continue to receive compensation... The way you worded it was like all I cared about was CHECKS...like I'm only about money. I was freaking out that night because 22 pages of a paper I'd worked really hard on, were gone...and you and I talked on the phone because you were trying to help me "find it" on my computer. I was freaking out more because this paper was technically due that night at midnight..and it would have been done, had I not lost it and had to start all over (I don't make rough drafts when I write a paper...I just start writing, with a very basic outline on paper....so to rewrite, I have to really start all over).

I was freaking out because all my hard work was for nothing. I had only one page left to type, plus my references. I was "that close" and it was all gone. I was upset not because of the stinkin' money. You seem to be making me out to be some money-grabbing scammer who just keeps taking free checks for as long as I can get away with it. I have never had to explain myself to anyone about this stuff, and it's highly offensive because being off like this has been very humiliating and humbling and discouraging......it's a sore subject with me. I was at the height of my career when I hurt my back and I've worked since I was 15 years old (real job....prior to that, I babysat weekly as well was a candy striper. In college, I worked part time in the college library to help pay my tuition).

It is very embarassing to have to tell someone you meet (new date) or a potential employer or a new friend that you've been off work with an injury because they look at you and you "look just fine"...no limbs missing, no disfigurements. It makes me feel stupid, though I know it shouldn't but it does because I shouldn't be this age with back problems such as these..but there are people worse off so I am still thankful.

I get very defensive when you make insinuations (or have made)...about my nursing abilities, my employment status, my disability status...becuz it seems obvious to me that you're trying to make me look like a loser.

You're taking things I told you in confidence, long ago, when we were friends, and you're twisting them around and putting a dirty spin on them, however subtle, to upset me and make me look bad. If anything, I guess you're teaching me that you can just never trust anybody online. You and I used to be very close. You confided in me about all kinds of things, of a personal nature, and I the same. You used to say we were like sisters. Now you are wanting to stir up shit again (the Ari comment started it, it was uncalled for, you knew I'd react), and you're twisting my words around, when I have no way of proving otherwise (because I checked in the archives but they don't go back to 2000).

This subject is now dropped on my end. If you want to keep trying to hit me below the belt, go ahead. Of all the people who've ever really known me, you were one...probably knew me best, and you also know just what to say to hurt me.


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Date Posted: 01:04:36 11/01/02 Fri

Okay, let me try to explain something here. First, I have NEVER said one negative thing about your nursing abilities! I think everyone I have talked to will tell you that I have always admired your dedication to health care!

I was not implying that the only reason you were taking classes was to keep the check coming. I just meant that it was part of the requirements for getting disability. I'm truly sorry if you feel that mentioning your computer crashing was divulging personal info. I didn't think it was offensive, because not too long after that, you posted on the board about staying up all night to finish another paper that was due the next day, which you had procrastinated doing. I didn't think this was any different.

I wasn't singling YOU out in my reply to Ari, others were also being pretty damn tacky to him, some even worse than what I thought you had been.

I took your comment about burlap to be another reference to my "hickdom" to go along with the previous tractor comments and suggestions that I go chew on a piece of straw. You talk about how we were so close at one time, and how I've hurt you with my comments, but it never occurs to you that it might be hurtful to be called a country hick? When we were friends, you seemed to think this hick was pretty darn intelligent and funny, now I'm just a dumb, backwater housewife?


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