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Subject: Fundamentalists

Author:
Forest

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Date Posted: 09:24:37 07/03/02 Wed
In reply to: Mark7 's message, "Selling the people on it" on 00:54:26 06/26/02 Wed

Frontline had a program recently about Israel and the Palestinians. It left me very depressed. The fundamentalists on both sides were prominently displayed, and they are ugly people, Jew and Arab alike.

One comment that really stood out for me: someone said Arafat has not worked to prepare his people for peace. It strikes me as a true statement. That silly speech he gave after Barak pulled out of southern Lebanon. . . the negotiations where they worked so hard to settle, but it was all undone by such little effort. No, they aren't prepared for peace.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Fundamentalists

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JeffF
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Date Posted: 10:15:06 07/03/02 Wed

While Arafat is extremely unhelpful and interested mostly in his own survival, it would take a lot to prepare the people for peace. You have to realize that textbooks in schools in areas controlled by the PA don't even acknowledge Israel's existence. As much as I despise Arafat, it's far more than one man that's the problem. The press and the schools incite hatred.
I also repeat that unless the major surrounding Arab states sign off on a peace treaty, it won't hold.
As far as Israel, the fence is an understandable, but very bad idea. Families are going to be separated, which will just increase resentments. The coalition government is very divided and this is a rare case when Sharon is doing something he doesn't much believe in. I'm not sure how much longer the current Israeli government can last. Either labor or the religious parties may bolt at any time for different reasons.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Well, we agree about the media

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Mark7
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Date Posted: 00:07:37 07/04/02 Thu

I agree with you about the media inciting this war. American media does not acknowledge the right of people to live, exist and have rights in the land they were born.

The American media has managed to portray the Arab as a born terrorist, while if you look at the fundamentals of the Palestinian situation and you judge in fairness, I would expect any nation under same circumstances to behave in similar fashion.

One editorial was telling about how IDF snipers were shooting at workers trying to repair the running water in Jenin, even though their work was approved by the Israeli government in advance.

I am sure that will not be considered as an act of terrorism (attack against civilian population) by our idiot leader.

What do Jewish school text tell Jewish kids about Palestinians born in their back yards? Do they acknowledge the right of Palestinians to live in Gaza or the West Bank?