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Subject: One thing

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JeffF

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Date Posted: 10:01:00 04/09/02 Tue
In reply to: Mark7 's message, "Good vs. Evil" on 18:47:54 04/06/02 Sat

I don't want to repeat all of our past debates on the topic. We'd just go in a circle, but I will make a different point. It's very hard for any leader in the Middle East to take a brave step for peace. They have to contend with animosity from their own side as well as the other side.
What happens when anybody takes a bold step? Sadat murdered by Egyptians, Rabin murdered by a Jew. There's an unfortunate pattern. A lot of the people in the region having been incited by propoganda in the media and schools don't want peace. They want victory at any costs and the leaders on all sides get afraid to take bold steps for peace. It's why as much as I despise Arafat, I almost can't blame him for not taking gutsier steps for peace. There is a good chance it would be signing his death warrant. He knows what happened to Rabin and Sadat.
Peace takes a greater bravery than war. Anybody can make war, but only somebody with vision and boldness can take concrete steps toward peace after more than 50 years of war, especially when the media and educational systems in the area keep inciting people to keep the hatred going.

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Mark7
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Date Posted: 01:06:52 04/11/02 Thu

Both Jews and Arabs are locked in an ethnic cleansing effort.

I don't know who was there first, the Jews or the Arabs, neither was I witness to God's promise to Abraham.

In my mind, if God Almighty wants Sharon to kill all Palestinian children, like Herod killed all the Jewish newborns, that is between God, Sharon and the 10 commandments. But God won't need 5 billion $US every year to kill a bunch of kids armed with rocks. If He wanted that done, He would do it with a miracle, or a plague, not Apache hellicopter missles.

However Sharon needs the 5 billion/year from the US, to prove what a tough general he is, and what a great army of children murderers Israel has.

On this day of holocaust remembrance, it should be a shame for any Jew what happens in Israel. Because today, after 60some years from the holocaust, the Jewish state is the one with institutionalized racism in it's laws.