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Subject: Russian Men and American Women


Author:
Mark7
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Date Posted: 22:47:49 07/07/01 Sat
In reply to: Forest 's message, "very good points" on 07:12:52 07/07/01 Sat

If you want to single out who did win WW2 against Hitler at least, it was the Russian men who did most of the fighting, and American Women who built most of the war material used by all allied forces in Europe.

If any of the battles won by American troops would have been lost, the war would still have been won by America and Russia in the long run. It would have been costly and painful, but Ardens, or Sicily or Normandie had no effect on the outcome of the war, other than make it shorter.

But if Stalingrad or Kursk would have been lost, or if the Germans would have captured Odessa the oil fields in the Caspian basin, the outcome of the war would have been different.

Hitler would have had all the oil from Russia to fly his jets and shoot down F17s. And the Sherman tanks were a poor match for the Pantzers.

But the Russians did keep the oil fields from Hitler, and American women kept the war supplies flooding allied troops into victory.

Anybody else thinks this way?

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Forest
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Date Posted: 14:06:19 07/08/01 Sun

one other story we hear little of is that of the suffering of the German people under Hitler. Those that were hauled off to Dachau and the other concentration camps, whose property was confiscated by the Nazis, and so on. I mentioned elsewhere the young women forced to be members of Nazi youth camps who were undoubtedly raped then told it was good to bear children for the Reich.

No doubt it was not the same number as the targeted Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, handicapped and homosexuals, but still significant and a story to be told if we really want to understand Hitler, the Nazis and how such a thing as the holocaust could happen.



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