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Date Posted: 11:44:23 03/16/03 Sun
Author: Kevin
Subject: Re: well excuuuuuuuuuuuse me
In reply to: harry 's message, "Re: well excuuuuuuuuuuuse me" on 03:55:30 03/16/03 Sun

Look in the dictionary to find out what covoluted means exactly but yes they do possess a comprehensive advanced vocabularly and are not slow to use it.

>didn't i say that i agreed with a lot of stuff bad
>religion said? i think I did, rendering your entire
>'you could learn something from them' argument dead in
>the water.

Yes, you did write that. I wrote that for other people's benefit who may not know what Bad Religion are all about. The truth is you can learn something from then. YOU not meaning (Harry) but you (as in any person)! Kinda like the royal 'we' but with the word 'you'.

now who has an over inflated sense of self
>importance?

Being an educator through music is a selfless act of benevolence. Like i said earlier i think being in a band does sometimes inflate one's sense of importance. Using such language as they do i think they can be perceived to be arrogant by some but i don't think they set out to be.

i mean, you think because of my appearance
>i'm not intelligent enough to hold this debate with
>you? you think your university education gives you the
>right to look down on me? well to be perfectly honest,
>fuck you (oh, sorry, i'm not allowed to say that), one
>thing I can not stand is people's assumptions that i'm
>not intelligent. my political and social views aren't
>based on an education system or anything i've been
>taught, and i don't need a piece of paper to tell me
>that i'm clever enough to be spoken to.

I haven't said anything about your appearance (apart from reminding me of the 4FT Fingers lead singer)yet alone linking it to intelligence levels. I think you assumed that i assume you're not intelligent. So you're using the fact that i have a university education AGAINST ME? Again you are assuming that i think i'm on a higher intellectual plane to you. I haven't written this! Where have i written that i think i'm intelligent? i have not and do not think i have above average intelligence. My piece of paper hasn't gotten me very far yet! I'm sorry (sincerely) for writing that Bad Religion write about stuff you don't understand! I don't understand it half the time as it is pretty high level (Phd stuff - as Greg is doing a Phd) but i find it interesting and stimulating. What i was getting at Harry is why do you have resort to expletives time after time? You know good words why can't you use them. Show me an intelligent person that says "fuck off" a lot! Perhaps maybe over use of the word "Fuck" has led people to assume that you are not intelligent. I use to swear a hell of a lot but have weened myself off that particular affliction.

>and i'm angry for an awful lot of reasons, reasons
>that i don't need to justify to an arrogant know it
>all like you. if you honestly think that anyone can
>shout like I do, then try it, try screaming your lungs
>out for 4 hours in a practice room and shredding your
>vocal chords. i can sing perfectly well, and sometimes
>i would like to expand the range of btw, but at the
>moment i have an awful lot to shout about, and i shall
>continue to do so.

An arrogant know it all - wow that's quite a compliment! I'm not arrogant in the slightest, whatever gave you that impression? All i know is that Bad Religion are not shit! I don't know why you're angry but i wish you all the best in finding happiness. No, i don't expect you to justify your reasons to anyone on a forum if you don't want to. I just found it funny how you called everyone "miserable cunts" during a gig in the summer (i've haven't forgotten since) when you looked the epitome of misery. Here is the first verse of Bad Religion's 2000 song 'The Hopeless Housewife' which reminds me of you (not the housewife bit obviously, just these words):

Get out of your 1950s fantasy, your face shines with misery transparently.
Spew out that sobering half-assed victim rhetoric.
Make 'em all squirm while they chew on it.

>starting a band isn't about 'not having enough money',
>that's a shitty excuse, i'm piss poor, and i still
>manage to do it, if you think you have something to
>say then get up and say it.

How did you manage to do it? Did your parents help you out? or do you actually work? What do you do with your life and with your intelligence? or do you live off the state and watch daytime television? I don't have enough money! But if i could find a drummer, a guitarist and a bassist who has then come seek me out and we can start a band! it's just that you'll have to contribute towards all the equipment and one will have to be a driver!
I do have plenty to say actually. As you have noticed i'm not short of a thing to say when i'm provoked. Normally i am a mild-mannered young man but when riled i don't exactly hold back,

>as for the greatest punk rock song writers? johnny
>cash, against me!, justin sane, converge, vic ruggiero
>and dave hillyard, tim armstrong and lars frederiksen
>(apart from the transplants who can go burn in a pit
>of their own dog eat dog meets apollo 440 created
>hell) and probably a million more who make me happy
>every day with four chords.

So we agree on Justin Sane!! that's amazing!! - he is great though. Yeah i like Rancid, Lars Frederiksen and i do actually like The Transplants! Why couldn't you have just written this originally instead and save us all a lot of hassle? What do you think of AFI? I think their new album is amazingly good.

>I don't really know what hardcore is, and i don't
>really care, definition always struck me as an
>impossible task, mainly because people will always
>disagree with you. you can't pigeon hole people's
>taste in music with simple words, especially not words
>that have core attatched to them. music is about
>personal taste, and it's impossible to discern exactly
>where this taste comes from. I like punk, but i like
>an awful lot of other genres as well, I would never
>say that I know for sure I'm not gonna like something,
>that strikes me as ignorant and close minded. I'm like
>my brother, I give most things a chance.

You can be closed minded about Metal and Pop when you can't get away from it in your daily lives. Closed Mindedness and prejudice is saying you're not gonna like it without even hearing it. I hear metal/heavy rock when i go out every single weekend so i think i am justified in making such a statement.

>anyway, i can't think of anything else to say, and i'm
>sure kevin will have some witty retort to dazzle us
>all with, so i'm off

I'm not trying to dazzle you with any witty retort! I'm just telling you what i think! Look just because you don't like a band doesn't make them shit! I haven't called BTW shit have i? you maybe the best technical band in the world because obviously not being in a band makes my ears untrained! I've just said i don't find listening to constant periods of silence rivetting. You probably won't act on my criticisms with you thinking i'm an arrogant know it all - i guess that makes you punk (not giving a fuck what other people think) but it also makes you blander than bland!

>love peace unity and a distinct lack of smug self
>satisfaction


>harry
>xxx


Love, Peace, Unity and also a distinct lack of smug self satifaction.

Kevin.
xxxx

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