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Subject: Re: Lower Pitched chanters????


Author:
Mike Miller
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Date Posted: 19:58:48 05/22/03 Thu
In reply to: John Mitchell 's message, "Lower Pitched chanters????" on 15:22:25 05/22/03 Thu

>John,

Most of these discussions are around 466 vs every one else at 474 or what ever numbers you want to choose. But if you are a soloist, and there is no one else around to compare it to and the chanter is perfectly balanced at 466. Would it still be Flat?

If a tree falls down in the woods and no one is around, it would be flat!!

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Author:
Brian MacColl
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Date Posted: 22:03:55 05/22/03 Thu

Mike,
Excellent point, one of the best made so far in the debate.

BUT...if a soloist is on the boards at 466 after a few "brighter" 474 or so players, than that 466 piper may get a comment of "chanter not bright" or something similar. That could be the difference between first and second. I am not saying which one I prefer is best, but you have to admit, a brighter higher pitch projects better and has a certain crispness that is desirable. Eventhough it is a soloist out there on their own, they are still going up against each other. And some of these judges have memories like elephants...they'll remember who was higher and lower pitched even if their roster for the day had 20 pipers on it!

Brian

>>John,
>
>Most of these discussions are around 466 vs every one
>else at 474 or what ever numbers you want to choose.
>But if you are a soloist, and there is no one else
>around to compare it to and the chanter is perfectly
>balanced at 466. Would it still be Flat?
>
>If a tree falls down in the woods and no one is
>around, it would be flat!!

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Author:
Jock
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Date Posted: 07:03:26 09/23/04 Thu

>Mike,
> Excellent point, one of the best made so far in
>the debate.
>
>BUT...if a soloist is on the boards at 466 after a few
>"brighter" 474 or so players, than that 466 piper may
>get a comment of "chanter not bright" or something
>similar. That could be the difference between first
>and second. I am not saying which one I prefer is
>best, but you have to admit, a brighter higher pitch
>projects better and has a certain crispness that is
>desirable. Eventhough it is a soloist out there on
>their own, they are still going up against each other.
> And some of these judges have memories like
>elephants...they'll remember who was higher and lower
>pitched even if their roster for the day had 20 pipers
>on it!
>
>Brian

Don't agree with you at all Brian, the common perception of a flatter pitch is actually derived from people hearing discrepancies between where top hands and bottom hands are pitched- 'flatter' chanters are often percieved as such because (for example) a reed has taken moisture and the bottom hand flattened relative to the top hand- even a slight change and it can easily be percieved as flat in general. I have played at bang on B flat all season, with a Naill chanter with the problem bottom hand notes (b and d) sharpened by drill, this is not bravado but they sound fantastic there- loads of harmonics. Our ears adjust really quickly- judges will notice a change of pitch when you first blow up, but by the time you have tuned and are halfway through the ground they will just be focusing on whether it sounds good or not. Pipes can sound great at any pitch, take a listen to Chris Armstrong then Gordon Walker in quick succession their pitches are miles apart but both sets of pipes sound mighty.

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