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Date Posted: 23:00:38 01/26/07 Fri
Author: NewMember
Subject: Re: stony sewage
In reply to: Clark Fisher 's message, "Re: stony sewage" on 13:12:46 01/26/07 Fri

At 9 Monday morning, I'll start calling the planning commission, DEP, the school, etc. Until i find someone who knows whats going on. I'll post whatever I find out , here on this forum by lunchtime Monday.


have a good weekend.






>The Daily American article states that a large public
>forum is going to be scheduled "as early as Jan 29."
>Please post the date on here if anyone finds out when
>it is.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
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>>>This is the first I heard of a proposed new landfill
>>>across the river from the existing one. Does anyone
>>>have factual information on it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>We are all intelligent enough to believe what we
>want
>>>>and make our own decisions.......hopefully based on
>>>>fact and not conjecture (a little more research may
>>be
>>>>in order to find out what really stopped the acid
>>rock
>>>>dumping in Indiana County).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If I put trash out on my curb and it ends up in my
>>>>>backyard that is one thing. When Bruce Springsteen
>>>and
>>>>>Rudolf Guiliani put trash out on their curb and it
>>>>>ends up in my backyard, that is a completely
>>>different
>>>>>matter.
>>>>>
>>>>>Remember the acid rock controversy in Indiana
>county
>>>>>last year? That was stopped dead in its tracks. Not
>>>by
>>>>>cooperation, or by "having a voice at the table",
>>>that
>>>>>was stopped by a bunch of angry locals just saying
>>>>>"NO!".
>>>>>
>>>>>Look at Paint Creek, Shade Creek, Blacklick Creek,
>>>the
>>>>>Little Conemaugh...that smelly orange water isn't
>>the
>>>>>result of protests and opposition. That is the
>>result
>>>>>of cooperation.
>>>>>
>>>>>What more can be lost? As it stands they are set to
>>>>>bury yet another 5 million tons of solid waste
>along
>>>>>the banks of the region's best whitewater river.
>>What
>>>>>worse fate is there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>That is certainly one way to look at it. But, try
>>>to
>>>>>>read this with an open mind...Another may be that
>>>the
>>>>>>landfill is EXACTLY the type of partnership that
>is
>>>>>>necessary for the paddling community. The
>landfill
>>>>>>understands they do have somewhat of a negative
>>>>impact
>>>>>>on the surrounding community and does what they
>can
>>>>to
>>>>>>give back to the community, whether the reasons
>are
>>>>>>selfish or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is not the place to solve waste management
>>>>>>issues, but whether the paddling community accepts
>>>>>>sponsorship from a landfill or not will not affect
>>>>the
>>>>>>fact that the landfill is there...and is
>>>>>>necessary...and is not going away under the
>current
>>>>>>system as long as you keep putting trash on your
>>>>curb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, on the other hand, if we take a standoffish
>>>>>>approach and make yet another enemy, then certain
>>>>>>community improvements may not happen and guess
>>>>>>what??? The landfill is still there and, most
>>>>>>importantly, WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE A VOICE AT THE
>>>>>>TABLE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would you have more success getting your point
>>>across
>>>>>>to a partner? Or an enemy? Anyone treated like an
>>>>>>enemy will certainly not listen to our
>>>issues...which
>>>>>>is why the landfill is a good to keep as a
>partner.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That does not mean we should not question or even
>>>>>>challenge them if warranted...the key is how one
>>>goes
>>>>>>about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If an organization has an event and some other
>>>>>>>organization sponsors it,then that act of
>>>>sponsorship
>>>>>>>gives, at least, the appearance of an alliance
>>>>>between
>>>>>>>the two organizations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which is probably why you don't see hunting rifle
>>>>>>>companies sponsoring PETA events. A paddling club
>>&
>>>>a
>>>>>>>landfill seems just as unlikely of a partnership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But this is probably something best discussed at
>a
>>>>>>>meeting. The internet is a great place to
>exchange
>>>>>>>info, but a an absolutely awful place to have a
>>>>>>>discussion about real issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't recall anyone stating they supported
>>>>>>anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just for confirmation sake. There's a group
>that
>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>turning the entire stoneycreek watershed into a
>>>>>dump
>>>>>>>>>for New York/ New Jersey and we support them
>>>>>because
>>>>>>>>>they promise us rocks?
>>>>>>>>>How well do you think those dumps will hold up
>>at
>>>>>>>full
>>>>>>>>>capacity during a Johnstown flood?

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  • Re: stony sewage -- NewMember, 13:06:50 01/29/07 Mon
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