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怒!!!有學生在九濟堂留言後遭秋後算帳!慘!

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Date Posted: 10:32:32 01/30/03 Thu

近日廿三條立法在香港引起很大爭議,其中以言入罪一項直接威脅新聞和公眾自由.濟記近期發生的一件事便是以言入罪,秋後算帳的典型例子:
話說早前有同學在九濟堂留言指出有中四同學參與服務活動時遭受到對方人員不禮貌和不公平的對待.由於此人是九濟堂常客,因此他的身份也廣為人知.然而事後相信有二五仔向有關的執事老師報料,結果在數天後本人在濟記教員室外目睹該位老師老羞成怒地責罵該位同學多口,又罵他:.."你而家好醒啦!" ..."咁多事!"等等...而一些相關的同學當時也有在場.而這位遭算帳者當時的反應只是...無奈.我真係擔心佢以後仲有得"歎".
我事後曾偵詢過兩位有參與該服務活動的同學,他們也同意這位同學的留言絕非無中生有.
我覺得這位老師真是十分幼稚兼且無謂.人有言論自由,身為老師應深明這道理.遇到學生的批評,老師應該虛心接受.作出跟進兼對有關同學作出恰當的解釋.而非作出反智,乏心腔的秋後算帳和共產黨式的封鎖消息做法.而且留言事件是在網上發生則應通過網上對話處理,絕不應濫用個人權力在學校找告密者算帳.這種行為真是令人生厭.
九濟堂一向是自由,下情上達的討論地方,想不到有人竟在事後公然找學生出氣,真是於理不合,濟記不容.
至於向老師報料的二五仔,我只好用無品和無義氣來形容.
在九濟堂這種不記下留言者真實身份的自由地方尚且發生這種事,若果是在記名留言的地方不知會怎樣了.

我衷心希望公仔佬可以解釋一下教員室內到底有沒有"秋後算帳"的機制?

希望不要應現陳日君主教的一句說話:

"有時社會上講真說話的人是不一定會有好結果的."

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Re: 怒!!!有學生在九濟堂留言後遭秋後算帳!慘!

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同場中四另一人
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Date Posted: 13:08:22 01/30/03 Thu

係咩！真有其事就梗係要講出o黎啦！但我又唔覺個同學覺得無奈喎！我都親耳聽到o個位同學親口話佢自己將個實際情況特登誇大o黎講喎！個老師同佢心平氣和討論，認為若果實際情況被歪曲，對整體士氣有影響。個同學仲大大聲話：「係唔係o係網上發表o下唔得先！？」佢又認佢自己作大，咁即係藉「九濟堂」發表非事實言論。再者，在服務期間遇到問題，好應該同有關老師匯報，尋求解決方法，點都好過作大o卦！之前o個就將件事情作大，而家你又歪曲老師同學生談話情況，乜咁叫講真話咩！？你唔好亂用陳主教o的說話啦，唔該！（你講o個個同學係乜o野性格，用意何在，大家心知肚明。）

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Author: 當時上緊課室 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:28:25 01/30/03 Thu 當時我由樓梯上緊課室,明明見到果位Miss幾怒咁同個肥仔講野bor.不過條肥仔都未必係好人.

[> [> [> Subject: Re:Miss Yau 太幼稚了
Author: ,,, [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:28:46 01/31/03 Fri Miss Yau 太幼稚了,唔夠修行.

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你估下先?
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Date Posted: 04:49:59 02/14/03 Fri

>係咩！真有其事就梗係要講出o黎啦！但我又唔覺個同學覺得無
>奈喎！我都親耳聽到o個位同學親口話佢自己將個實際情況特登
>誇大o黎講喎！個老師同佢心平氣和討論，認為若果實際情況被
>歪曲，對整體士氣有影響。個同學仲大大聲話：「係唔係o係網
>上發表o下唔得先！？」佢又認佢自己作大，咁即係藉「九濟堂
>」發表非事實言論。再者，在服務期間遇到問題，好應該同有?>鬖悎v匯報，尋求解決方法，點都好過作大o卦！之前o個就將件
>事情作大，而家你又歪曲老師同學生談話情況，乜咁叫講真話?>均I？你唔好亂用陳主教o的說話啦，唔該！（你講o個個同學係
>乜o野性格，用意何在，大家心知肚明。）

呢位同學,請唔好屈我,我從來無話過自己作大,亦都無話過：「係唔係網上發表下唔得先！？」我絕對絕對無講過,如果你係話我作大既,咁我作大左d咩,你有無證據,你地話我唔係好人,但係你地淨係識係背後罵我,你係咪覺得自己係好人,好光明正大???最好笑既係,你唔覺得我無奈我就唔無奈,我話俾你知丫,我係勁無奈,請不要亂加罪名於我頭上,雖然我個名係臭晒,但係都唔好屈得就屈,諗住多個唔多,少個唔少!!!仲有你條仆街最尾果句,話我係乜野性格，用意何在，大家心知肚明,我唔明wor,我想問下我有d咩用意,我有d咩好處呀究竟,我自己都諗唔明wor??仲有,敢問閣下是誰,我有一樣叫勇氣既野你係無既,我夠膽認係我寫,咁你有無丫???

[> [> [> Subject: 點解無人答我架,縮頭烏龜!!!!
Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:54:19 02/19/03 Wed 係度鬧過我既人,點解唔答我呀,唔係身有屎,其身不正呀,你話我居心叵測,你比證據出黎丫,答我啦,縮頭烏龜!!!

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Author: 係唔係兄弟先~ [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:22:04 02/19/03 Wed To:做義工比人不禮貌待遇的人我上年都有做，有時ｄ人係咁唔禮貌ga...做得義工就唔好唔計較，算吧啦...

[> Subject: 係咪Zoe Yau?
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[> Subject: Re: 怒!!!有學生在九濟堂留言後遭秋後算帳!慘!
Author: ...捕靈手...... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:29:04 01/31/03 Fri 講得是非就遇左......

[> [> Subject: 係咪miss邱?
Author: 小友 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:03:32 02/01/03 Sat 係咪miss邱?

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[> [> Subject: Re: 怒!!!有學生在九濟堂留言後遭秋後算帳!慘!
Author: /AL [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:13:40 02/14/03 Fri Really?