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Subject: 奉勸各位一句


Author:
某教員
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Date Posted: 22:21:42 02/01/03 Sat

看到有同學因多口而比女同事抽後算帳一事.我想藉新年奉勸各位(特別是新仔)一句:唔好嘗試同班年輕Miss或者佢地任何一個過唔去.
I am not joking with you.我在濟記也有一段日子,唔好講學生,就算我地阿sir.得罪佢地的都無邊個好結果.除非你有好大後臺.

如果唔係點解平日既上堂時間表唔少較舒適的時間都"讓"左比佢地yar.

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[> Subject: Re: 奉勸各位一句


Author:
-_-"
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Date Posted: 23:25:21 02/01/03 Sat

請問你有咩証據呢??
唔好得個講wor
[> Subject: Re: 係bor


Author:
班長
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Date Posted: 00:42:10 02/02/03 Sun

唔怪之得有時入教員室搬簿果陣周不時見到部份所謂既阿姐一齊啦.算啦,Ladies first.
[> Subject: Re: 某教員說話有其道理


Author:
堂主
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Date Posted: 00:58:43 02/02/03 Sun

其實從另一方面去想,某教員也簡接地教曉了我們點樣做人.正如Brother Bosco於我就讀form 1時向我們說過:{學校唔係用來學知識,係學做人.濟記老師主要角色唔係教你知識,係教識你做人處世.}
在濟記生活,學識做人比學好知識更加重要.
我相信比我更高輩份的師兄如嘉寶等也會贊同這句說話.
[> Subject: Re: 奉勸各位一句


Author:
Nobuyuki
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Date Posted: 12:01:36 02/02/03 Sun

凡事都要講證據, 講理由既. 請問你咁講有咩證據同理由呢?有既唔怕講出黎!
請問咩野係較舒適既時間表呢? 我相信學校會根據每位教師工作既繁重而得到公平既編配.而又有甚麼是舒適呢?
新一年, 請你講既野係有根有據, 並非信口雌黃.
[> Subject: 舒適時間表並不舒適


Author:
心雲
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Date Posted: 12:29:29 02/02/03 Sun

只就一個指控回應﹕

學年的時間表我也有份參與編製。在編時間表之前先要由副校長和多位主任開會商量,所牽涉的事項很多很廣。譬如,如果老師因其他工作的需要,而不能在某些課節上課,必須在編時間表前在此提出,如龐sir多數要負責登記學生遲到紀錄表,故第一節課不會給他。除了這些,每位老師每天的課節數目和疏密程度,及同一科目在整個循環周的編排等也需小心考慮。

要編完一個學年時間表,耗去的精神和時間是十分之多的。如果還要考慮男性跟女性在時間表編排的分別,那麼要了我的命好吧!

若依據閣下所言,我是否成為了在教員室內助女鋤男的人呢?
[> [> Subject: Re: forget it/


Author:
man
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Date Posted: 22:30:21 02/02/03 Sun

Forget it la,Ladies first ma/
[> [> [> Subject: Re: 編時間表又是否如打兩隻字般簡單呢


Author:
堂主
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Date Posted: 23:23:25 02/02/03 Sun

朋友,我提議你應該隻身處地以編輯者的角度去思考這問題.編輯時間表所兼顧的問題多而繁.例如:協調教學上的需要,平衡全校整體利益,減少人事紛爭,順從上級指示.還要兼顧崗位不同的老師,令他們可抽空處理教學以外的工作等等.這些林林總總的因素又是否三言兩語,一兩條道理便可以說得通呢.執事老師要兼顧教學和處理份外事已是不容易了.各位男女教員切忌強人所難啊.有時將就下就算吧.
師弟們,社會上很多時是沒有所謂絕對的"黑"和"白"的.處理問題時能夠找出一個紛爭最少兼對團體仝人影響最少的解決方法,比所謂公平來得更重要.人世間是沒有絕對公平的.而且時間表是教員間的secret,我們還是別太多事為妙.
心雲,何須自責?你是負責執行高層和BA指示,好好編寫時間表.有什麼芝麻綠豆的問題(不知是否真的),又與你何干呢?


正如許冠傑所講"唉!邊有半斤八兩咁理想,吹帳!我地呢班打工仔,一生為錢幣做奴隸.辛酸折墜講出嚇鬼,死俾你睇.0米話無乜所謂...


[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 編時間表又是否如打兩隻字般簡單呢


Author:
心雲
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Date Posted: 14:00:41 02/03/03 Mon

先謝你!

但…

>各位男女教員切忌強人所難啊.有時將就下就算吧.

使我感到有點非我原本回應之意。
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 編時間表又是否如打兩隻字般簡單呢


Author:
Someone
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Date Posted: 06:05:08 02/15/03 Sat

認同
[> [> Subject: Re: 舒適時間表並不舒適


Author:
人一個
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Date Posted: 23:01:24 02/02/03 Sun

我都聽講過每年編時間表心雲都要捱通宵,如果真係好似你地所講,又要就晒o的女教師先,根本就幾晚通宵都搞唔掂,根本就係冇可能發生o既事。
再者,你地試諗下,如果年年都係由女教師話事要邊堂,咁點解咁耐都冇人出聲丫?冇人夠膽出聲?唔係呀嘛,唔通連高層都唔夠膽出聲咩。
莫非班女教師真係好似你地所講咁,連高層一出聲都會俾人炒?
某教員,如果你真係教職員o既話,我為你而感到羞恥,身為一個受過陪訓o既教師,竟然連講野都唔用證據,咁你點叫你o的學生服你呀?如果你唔係教職員,就唔好用呢個名啦唔該。
[> Subject: 問某教員


Author:
好想知
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Date Posted: 03:05:11 02/03/03 Mon

如果得罪佢地會有咩結果?
希望你可以答我啦,如果有女老師同你秋後算帳,就向九濟堂講出黎,
由學生比壓力佢地.

仲有,點解淨係"年輕"既女教員?
[> [> Subject: Re: 答


Author:
唉...
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Date Posted: 03:50:38 02/03/03 Mon

典型例子發生在前年下學期,查實此事已有人提過.一位姓何的新人不知何故遭提前解約,而且他來了未夠一年,還未過為期兩年的probation period.他是與一位任教相同科目的Miss YXZ關係不好.有人向校長投訴,結果下一年響濟記就見唔到佢.
相反另一位同年入來教英文的Miss,在年尾卻由原本一年制合約的pend轉成全職錄用.
[> [> [> Subject: 數個問題


Author:
人一個
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Date Posted: 06:16:26 02/03/03 Mon

問題一:閣下係親耳聽倒有人向校長投訴,定係你都係聽番黎?
問題二:你既然講得不知何故解約,咁點解你言下又有「因得罪某女教師,而被打小報告,最後引致遭解約」之意?
問題三:何sir遭解約,同另一Miss轉成全職錄用有何關係?
問題四:閣下有冇有力證據證明你所講o既野係真?如果冇,就唔好o係度混淆視聽。
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re:代答


Author:
多口
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Date Posted: 06:45:36 02/03/03 Mon

>問題三:何sir遭解約,同另一Miss轉成全職錄用有何關係?
即係趕走前者,利用此空缺去錄用後者law.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: 我亦都有想過,不過……


Author:
人一個
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Date Posted: 06:55:36 02/03/03 Mon

留意他的留言中是用了「相反」一詞,而並非「因而」。
因此他想說明的不是因果關係。
[> [> Subject: 好恐怖.....


Author:
好想知
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Date Posted: 05:44:11 02/03/03 Mon

估唔到濟記係今恐怖
[> [> [> Subject: 留下果個係咪miss yip?


Author:
小友
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Date Posted: 07:22:59 02/03/03 Mon

留下果個係咪miss yip?
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: not miss yip?


Author:
唉...
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Date Posted: 09:10:53 02/03/03 Mon

>留下果個係咪miss yip?
是Erica Li/
[> Subject: Re: 奉勸各位一句


Author:
又係我
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Date Posted: 07:26:34 02/07/03 Fri

一:
一個根本問題: 何sir和Erica Li有何關係???

二:
我聽人話何sir disappear的原因是他在大陸有層樓(i am quite sure of this)
[> [> Subject: 又關乜事~~~


Author:
Lanven
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Date Posted: 00:59:25 02/08/03 Sat

>我聽人話何sir disappear的原因是他在大陸有層樓(i am
>quite sure of this)
又關層樓乜事?
[> [> Subject: Re: 奉勸各位一句


Author:
又係我
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Date Posted: 07:43:19 02/09/03 Sun

sor, i didnt write too clearly.
i mean he went to live in mainland
[> [> [> Subject: Re: 奉勸各位一句


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Date Posted: 06:15:16 02/14/03 Fri

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[> Subject: 有感而留言


Author:
5E班一個人
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Date Posted: 07:17:48 02/19/03 Wed

我想信做得老師都有佢一定的人格,雖然有一d老師係害群之馬,但這只係好小部分,想信濟記中是很難搵到這般害群之馬.

我讀左5年,雖然有時都會覺得某某老師好有問題,但這只是我比佢地話幾句後一時意氣,錯的是自己.見到有些人說老師抽後算帳,話年輕Miss話到好似佢地係d專打小報告既人,請問你地係唔係一d錯都無?Miss們真係會無原因地話你地?

我都比你地話個班"年輕Miss"教過,Erica Li佢係我中三的中文老師,當年她是第一年來濟記,我地班直頭係"恰"佢恰到過晒火位,但係Miss Li一d都無所謂過唔去.我覺你地班人(話某某老師唔好,某某老師無理取無鬧個班人)請想清楚,你地真係無過錯嗎?如果有就唔好話老師記仇!!!!請反省.

話說我今日都係最後個堂比Miss話,雖然當時我係好火,但想深一些,都是自己錯居多,我亦不覺得她"會記我仇".在這裡奉勸各位,特別係年輕的低班同學,有時比老師話,要認真反省一下,老師係唔會無啦啦話你的,一定是你做錯先,或多或小.有時把立場站在老師方面,你會明白老師點解會話你.


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