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Subject: 下...

Author:
蔡進步

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Date Posted: 11:13:57 06/05/03 Thu
In reply to: 7A monitor 's message, "Grad.dinner(to all 7A classmates)" on 05:04:57 06/05/03 Thu

我去的,因為太忙,未能有空比$$~~我會盡快的了,sorry
不過...乜唔去都要比$$的嗎?
咁有冇搞錯.....一句tradition都唔得嫁wor....tradition是以前的人既事.....
就算係官方搞既活動都唔可以咁收人錢啦
至於你話對收左果d唔公平....更加係離晒譜既argument,呢個係你地自己唔諗清楚收左其他人錢之麻...咁關d同學咩事....
(p.s.可能我搞得唔係好清楚,100是自願既就當我冇講過,sorry)

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[> [> Subject: Re: 下...

Author:
7B5 朱世洛
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Date Posted: 12:20:44 06/05/03 Thu

>我去的,因為太忙,未能有空比$$~~我會盡快的了,sorry
>不過...乜唔去都要比$$的嗎?
>咁有冇搞錯.....一句tradition都唔得嫁wor....tradition是?>H前的人既事.....
>就算係官方搞既活動都唔可以咁收人錢啦
>至於你話對收左果d唔公平....更加係離晒譜既argument,呢個?>Y你地自己唔諗清楚收左其他人錢之麻...咁關d同學咩事....
>(p.s.可能我搞得唔係好清楚,100是自願既就當我冇講過,sorry
>)

第一、90%唔去的同學(7B7C全部唔去的同學，再加部份7A的同學)真係自願交0個100蚊，而且今日已經交左

第二、決定去謝師宴的同學的人數成日都係到變，我地之前問到一個決定去的人數，用呢個人數計左每人$330，之後又突然話唔去，但係我地又晨早通知晒全世界交錢，可是只要有一個人話唔去，我地已經由有鬆動的資金變財政緊拙，再多少少人話唔去已經赤字，因為我地係大約80人請廿靚個先生的關係，所以每個同學用頗為大份錢來請一個老師才有咁既情況，也暗示如果唔收$100，越少人去就越貴，如果各位一早可以下好決定，我們也不打算收$100

基於類似的考慮，其他學校甚至會採取投降輸一半(唔去都俾一半)，甚至係唔去都要俾全費的辦法，各位同學，冷靜d諗下，點解咁多同學會俾呢$100先，就算真係因為即使有d事去唔到，佢地都想出番先生一份，聊表心意，多謝佢地咁多年來教誨，也會攞番去的同學會攞到的souvenir
你可能覺得我屈你錢，也可能是我解釋得不夠清楚，但係，你聽完以上的原因，係咪仲覺得0個$100係全無意義，屈你埋牆呢？

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不愧是辯論隊冠軍,將我抹黑

Author:
7A wolf
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Date Posted: 13:50:43 06/05/03 Thu

I just want to point out something:

1. 可是只要有一個人話唔去，我地已經由有鬆動的資金變財政緊拙
Risks are needed to include in planning. I believe that you will not make the budget so tight, even buying some pens for drawing is not available.

2. 如果各位一早可以下好決定，我們也不打算收$100
I HAD ALREADY SAID "GO" AND PAID to the grad. dinner fees to Muscle on 29/5 when I know the day will be fixed on 27/6 at Mongkok. However, some of my classmates had some arguments with you, so someone changes the day and place. Then, how can you assume everyone will make the same choice again?

3. Until now, I have not decided join the grad. dinner or not since I may can't change the day of off. If I can't join, why I need to pay $100? 聊表心意? 多謝佢地咁多年來教誨? From F.1 / F.6 to F.7, is it only cost $100? Make it as be a slogan is ok!

4. 你可能覺得我屈你錢，也可能是我解釋得不夠清楚，但係，你聽完以上的原因，係咪仲覺得0個$100係全無意義，屈你埋牆呢？
Not 屈 is what? Even now I can't get back my money. It does seem that if I get back the money, grad. dinner will be destroyed & I will be 不尊師重道. However, what have you said when Muscle collected my money? Nothing!!! Also, 依合約精神,是你毀約 (27/6 grad. dinner),再定新約(26/6 grad. dinner). Then, assume I will follow 新約. Is it 屈?

Mr. Chu, everyone wants to make the grad. dinner perfect. However, it is not the excuse. Finally, please mind your wording. You will hurt other carelessly. I don't have time to have a war on here and I don't want to have a war here.
Let's us have a cold down period, is it ok?

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 不愧是辯論隊冠軍,將我抹黑

Author:
Lo
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Date Posted: 21:18:23 06/05/03 Thu

I won't go not because of what, just because i'll have an exam on that day. I won't give that $100 because I think it's unfair. If anyone think that it's unfair to those who have paid, I would like to apologize here.

What makes me angry is that no one care about why I can't go. All they care is money. And when I loved and ready to participate the Grad.dinner held on 27/6, someone change it to 26/6 which I'll not be able to go.
Is it's fair to me? Anyway, no one care. They care about money..

(This is all I can say for those who like excuse and know the truth)

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 不愧是辯論隊冠軍,將我抹黑

Author:
7A monitor
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Date Posted: 06:57:28 06/06/03 Fri

算吧!我們不打算跟不滿意的人逐點反駁
無謂令grad.dinner蒙上污點
(1)一百元將會退回俾你
(2)至於我地係咪只講$,唔拗啦,大家話係就係啦(義工都講$?)
只想講,confirm不到人頭就訂唔到hotel,而之後就我地和hotel
就傾唔到配合的安排和節目,要知道時間已不多
(3)'屈',都係唔拗啦,大家話係就係啦...大圍野話屈就無意思la
7A同學都知點解找我傾la,咁我無錢收,去4次學校開會,3次hotel this week,係咪又俾人屈呢,我唔覺lor...福昇為人群ar ma
(4)無話過一定27號搞.揀26唔係針對任何人,係要配合hotel選擇,志師etc決定.係咪毀約?大家話係就係啦,我無讀過Law,唔識
(5)最後希望大家支持下個謝師宴la,同明白無開過會的人其實所知
不多,唔好太過一刀切我地la.thx

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: 好!

Author:
7A wolf
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Date Posted: 10:08:34 06/06/03 Fri

好,班長出到聲,唔拗點唔拗la!

今日同老細講左調假,成功與否要一、二日先知。如果得我一定去! 吳得,SORRY,我想囉返個一百...
另外,我對你或7A並無不滿,只是留言不知你是誰(WONG or CHAN),所以才寫DEAR SIR,我亦寫得好客氣。
只不個朱生篇雄文,我不強硬點回應,何能解我心中對其用文用字之不滿?

[> [> [> Subject: 咁就叫解釋左?

Author:
7a6蔡進步
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Date Posted: 12:36:31 06/06/03 Fri

1.活動者要對自己搞的活動負責,唔通我下年搞生日會,deficit又問你收(衣加係搞活動者定話關唔關任何一個人事)
2.90%自願....就算有一個唔係自願都覺咁做唔岩,另外,我只係講果d人,請不要混入自願的同學為一談
3.唔係比人屈的義務工作好偉大,唔等於想點就點,更加唔等於有權屈人,咁不如我搞個植樹日,同晒全校收$$
4.最後,亦是最重要一點,就係搞一個活動係想大家開心,而唔係想要最多既參加者,自由選擇情況下先可以做到呢一點.即係話如果有同學
唔係因為安排問題,只係個人好惡問題而唔去,唔比壓力佢而由佢唔去自係令最多人開心既做法

[> [> Subject: 負責搞Grad Din既同學冇諗住o係度辯論, 更加冇人得閒抹黑其他人!!

Author:
7c Cyrus
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Date Posted: 10:26:33 06/06/03 Fri

我地呢排聯絡左好多間酒店, 全九龍既酒店都比我地聯絡得7788, 原因就係因為前o個排a班話$400太貴, 我地要重新去搵間價錢平d既酒店, 等我地可以減低個成本,我地每搵一間, 就計一次成條數,目的係想minimize個費用,等大家唔使比得咁吃力,而家我地左減右減,減到$330,每人減左$70,加加埋埋就成5千幾蚊!我地重覆計左好多次先至可以做到呢個價錢,事實上成個function既財政都好緊拙,我地都好想收多少少等財政方面可以鬆動d,唔好話收$400,收$350我地都已經好做好多!我地而家收$330,的確係冇鬆動既資金,wolf同學知唔知道我地計條數計得幾辛苦,辛苦唔係因為成日要對住部計數機,而係因為要左度右度,將條數減到最低,仲要承受埋"負資產"既風險,如果wolf同學咩都唔知但又話唔信我地財政緊拙,咁我地仲可以講咩?!

$100係用黎請老師一齊食一餐,當然,一餐飯又點能夠報答老師之恩呢?謝師宴既目的只係希望師生一齊開開心心食餐飯,當係一份心意,亦係一個回憶,如果wolf同學你認為呢個只係個slogan而否定謝師宴既意義,咁我地唔需要再傾,謝師宴方面我地根本冇討論既餘地,就當我地對你唔住,之前阻你咁多寶貴既時間!!

羅同學,正如7A monitor所講,揀26/6係因為酒店o個邊27/6冇期,我地都唔想,我地都知對你唔fair,令到你黎唔到,不過其實揀27/6都有同學唔得閒黎,咁咪又係對佢地唔fair!100個人裡面我地真係好難就到一日係全部人都得閒,同時,仲要考慮埋酒店比我地既期,希望你明白我地既苦處,對於揀左26/6令你黎唔到,抱歉!!

最後,好多謝o個幾位唔去grad din但都肯付出$100黎支持呢個謝師宴既同學,為我地免卻好多麻煩,感激不盡!