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Subject: Do you have any principle as a person?

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Summer

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Date Posted: 05:35:04 04/26/03 Sat
In reply to: 7b26 's message, "兄弟們，大功告成，收Band喇！（上）" on 05:15:56 04/26/03 Sat

There is no use to make a simple principle so complicated. Please read my answer to a student again:
>不如這樣說會比較直接
>美國人眼中, 伊拉克統治者獨裁, 為救伊民於水深火熱之中,
>應打
>在伊拉克人眼中, 美國人是為石油這舊肥肉而衝?來的野狼,
>應抗
>那麼, 支持解放者的美軍是正義,
>還是支持民族捍衛者的共和國衛隊是正義?
As I said, what we know in HK is only based on information from the media.It may not be true. When you said something like"在伊拉克人眼中, 美國人是為石油這舊肥肉而衝?來的野狼", you are making your own judgement with no statistic to support. If I were you, I won't make such conclusion.
So what I said is: we must have enough true information before we can make decision.
But still there is a principle. For example, though the Chinese revolution led by Suen Chung San is a wrong thing from the view of the Ching Dynasty, and the revolution also killed a lot of people, we can still say Suen Chung San is doing the right thing. Can you see the principle?
That is why I can still say to support a horse in gambling is wrong, to have extra-marital affairs is wrong..etc, etc.
If you challenge this simple principle, there will be no right and wrong in this world. This will be a terrible world.

P.S.
So if you come across someone, especially teachers, who always say that there is no right or wrong in everything, think twice and be careful. Ask yourself what kind of principle is he or she teaches to students.

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[> [> Subject: Goodbye, Summer
Author: Spring, autumn & winter [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:17:07 04/26/03 Sat Spring, summer, autumn and winter are four season in a year. But the three brothers feel ashame of him. So, goodbye, Summer. 好自為知la, brother!

[> [> [> Subject: Re: 欲窮千里目?

Author:
獨眼龍
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Date Posted: 09:21:11 04/26/03 Sat

從你們這話開始吧:
“講開公仔佬，佢今次真係無辜辜，無啦啦走黎搭訕。其實，我地覺得佢只係想出黎扮下中立，提醒下我地注意發言既態度同禮貌，多從不同角度思考問題，不要把自己的說話當做真理，講真佢講既野有mud唔妥？”

公sir「出黎扮下中立」並非道德上唔妥,而且可能係基於好心,但好心是一件事,佢認為世事難分對錯這觀點是不妥的,與道德無關的事當然 “難”分對錯因為無對錯可分,但關乎道德的問題怎會難分對錯呢? 我和summer不同意他這觀點並不等於對他不敬,你們真是誤天下之大會! 你們欣賞公sir盡責教學等優點,很好,相信summer也欣賞,事實上, summer以前在九濟堂的的留言曾經不止一次地贊成公sir一些合理的意見, (請你們自己翻查,我懶得代勞了),可見summer 是一個凡事講理的人,當今趨炎附勢的商業社會, 不怕萬人誤會指責堅持道德信念的人真是鳳毛麟角,此所以是我獨眼龍敬重summer之一處; 你們卻群起向他筆伐責罵,卻都是誇大和不相干的謾罵 (例如這句”: “公sir比Summer鬧到PK，話佢講野無point屎、討好壞學生、枉為德育老師、影衰濟記、叫佢收皮。”), 反之summer卻極少以謾罵式的惡毒的字眼回敬你們,誰是誰非,直在其中矣.
你們欣賞公sir的優點但卻看不見他某些觀點的錯謬(不全是道德上的錯),是你們有待改進的地方,也許這才是你們今次上九濟堂的最大收穫;欲窮千里目?訓練自己做個講理的人吧.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Single-eye Dragon, you have made a good analysis!
Author: Summer [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:16:46 04/26/03 Sat I think your Chinese is good and you write very clearly with good points. Long live reasons!

[> [> Subject: 純綷個人感覺，不需要你所謂的統計吧！
Author: 人一個 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:59:11 04/26/03 Sat 睇完你o既留言之後，一個字形容我o既感覺，嘔！睇完你o既留言之後，一個字形容我對你o既感覺，狗！睇完你o既留言之後，一個字形容我對你o既忠告，走！

[> [> [> Subject: 以上是對於獨眼龍的感覺
Author: 人一個 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:01:56 04/26/03 Sat

[> [> [> Subject: Don't just scold with no point
Author: Summer [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:11:25 04/26/03 Sat If you still continue to scold without a single point in it, you continue to show you are uneducated.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Summer is WELL-educated?
Author: 7B someone [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:05:08 04/26/03 Sat >If you still continue to scold without a single point >in it, you continue to show you are uneducated. From this, i can say u are not educated. Even the teachers can't judge a student is uneducated.

[> [> [> [> Subject: 多如

Author:
人一個
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Date Posted: 09:12:10 04/27/03 Sun

我係unedcated？你憑乜野咁話我？
以係下取錄自Summer回應公仔佬﹙龔Sir﹚o既一句留言：「you should keep your mouth shut.」
一個學生用咁強硬o既話氣同一個老師講野，咁算唔算uneducated？你唔好回應我呀，你實係話唔算嫁，仲要用埋o的係人都知係o岩o既事實，但係又同主題無關o既所謂「reasons」去support你o既意見。