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Date Posted: 23:57:11 07/05/99 Mon
Author: Maggie
Author Host/IP: spider-th064.proxy.aol.com / 152.163.213.74
Subject: Re: Topcoats getting Sticky-more detail
In reply to: Melissa NC 's message, "Re: Topcoats getting Sticky-more detail" on 14:07:37 06/27/99 Sun

> More details:
> The top coats I'm referring to are used over an
> artificial surface only (usually acrylic but can be
> silk, gel, etc.), never used over polish. I've used
> Final Touch (Premium), A-Coat (Tammy Taylor), UV 30
> (EZ Flow), and whatever the one Pinnacle came out
> with. Like I mentioned before, it doesn't happen with
> all my p&w's but others are coming back with the top
> coat gummed up. A couple have come back stating it
> turned yellow. One is a tanning client and has
> problems but I have other tan clients with no
> problems.One I put the top coat on and 4 days later
> she came back and sure enough it had discolored, she
> swears the only thing she was in contact with was soap
> and water. No lotions, sun, hairspray, hair gels,
> mousse or any cleaning products. I just had to say "I
> have no idea what caused it". All of these products
> are supposed to "block" uv rays and protect the
> acrylic from outside "whatevers". I'll call these
> company's next week(time permitting) and see if any
> act like this ever happens! Plus I don't think I'm up
> to date on all MSDS sheets, I'm a bad girl!! It is
> hard to remember that when you never have to reference
> to them. Anyway, I'll attempt to gather more info for
> you and repost later. Thanks
>
> >
> >
> > I honestly don't have an answer for you off the top
> of
> > my head.... But I'll think on it and get back to you
> > (all) when I come up with something! (This one is
> new
> > to me honestly, so I may need to do some research and
> > investigation.... so any more details on this problem
> > will be helpful!)
> >
> > I only use a "pro-finish" knock-off (from nailite) as
> > a top coat on polish, and on my P & W's (I currently
> > only do gel mind you) I leave them as is after their
> > last coat application.
> >
> > All I can think of is that since nail polish (top
> > coat) IS an (evaporative cured)acrylic, it too does
> > not cure (like liquid powder acrylics) for 24 hours
> or
> > more, and as such, clients need to exercise caution
> > with it for the first 24 hours untill it is
> cured.....
> > meaning limiting exposure to other chemicals that
> > could interfere with its hardening/drying/curing SUCH
> > AS chlorine, bleach, bromine, sunscreen, bug screenk,
> > etc!!!!!
> >
> > (BTW BUG spray IS (can be) a big problem with most
> > acrylics
> > as it is a "wax" type product, like car wax or
> > furniture or floor wax, that are intended to break
> > down polymers surface structure to remove surface
> > scratches by "melting" the top layers...... and so
> I'd
> > assume it goes with most sunscreen products!!!!!)

Melissa: HI! I'm not familiar with any of the products you mentioned except TT's A-coat. I know that among users of this product it's fairly well known that hair sprays and sun tan products and the like will cause it to get gummy and some things even make it turn black. I don't know why. The folks I talk to at TT are sales people, not chemists, they don't really know why either, so I haven't been able to get a real answer. But w/ TT at least, you can put a coat of her Z-coat right over that A-coat. I find that this works really well. Between the two clears coats nothing seems to scratch the nail (and believe me, my mother has tried!) and I never see yellowing on my P&W (but I do mostly acrylic). I will be checking up here to see if you guys can find the actual REASON these top coats do this to begin with. I do know that the A-coat is a "liquid plastic" the MSDS says it's made with acrylic polymers.

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