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Date Posted: 09:37:39 07/09/08 Wed
Author: kathy
Subject: starr said soething important today, she said dad you musst really lover your fancy new house because she cant even find time to all yur daughter on the phone, it tells me starr still wants todd, hr dad, i her life,even if they though him out. if todd acted like he cared more for starr then he did care about revenge and hating everyone maybe he could have reached out to starr today and been the dad she needs. but of ocurse he didnt he jsut threatened her. how sad for both of them.


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[> Both Starr and Blair still love Todd...and he still loves them. That is the tragedy of all this. I'm sure someday Starr and Todd will come back together - that much in inevitable. -- Cathy, 09:57:30 07/09/08 Wed


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[> [> ITA, Cathy!! T&B and the Mannings will eventually come out on top. They belong together, love, & need each other SO MUCH!!! Can't wait for Todd to let his revenge go and re-embrace Blair & their family again--as he so badly wants to do!!! -- LH, 13:42:44 07/09/08 Wed


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[> [> [> Yes, I'm sure they will. It should only take another year or two. Then they will get the "blink or you'll miss it" obligatory 2 minutes of onscreen love and the whole cycle will start again. Can't say I'm up for it when the payoff is weak to nonexistent. I've been abused by the writers for the last time. -- Cathy, 13:57:19 07/09/08 Wed


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[> [> [> [> Hang in there, Cathy!! At least our next T&B Reunion will include a REAL Manning Family Manor (aka Todd's new mansion), instead of that severely outdated PH OR Dorian's former Youth Hostel for the umpteenth time!!! Talk about ridiculous. -- LH, 14:10:45 07/09/08 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> LOL at the "severely outdated PH". I still love that set. Lots of great scenes and good memories there. -- Cathy, 14:38:40 07/09/08 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I love the PH too & cherish all the years of T&B memories there. But, I've felt that T&B/Mannings needed a clean slate together for a long time & a new "Manning Manor" of their own would be a perfect start to that new beginning. I'm thrilled that Todd has finally taken that important step. Now, bring on the T&B Mating Dance & Reunion ASAP!!! -- LH, 18:03:20 07/12/08 Sat


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[> [> I don't think that Todd loves them. He desires to possess them. Love shouldn't hurt as much as this thing does. -- Lafaux, 01:27:40 07/10/08 Thu


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[> [> [> Re: I don't think that Todd loves them. He desires to possess them. Love shouldn't hurt as much as this thing does. -- Cammie, 03:43:09 07/10/08 Thu

I couldn't agree more.I think the only person that Todd truly loves is Todd.So I hope that Blair stays as far away from Todd as humanly possible.I think she needs a new man.John McBain comes to mind.I mean he's sweet,funny,gorgeous and he treats her like a woman should be treated.Todd on the other hand treats her and his children like possessions.T&B is DEAD.Long live JoB.


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[> [> [> [> T&B is never dead. They just tell the same exact story with them (and slightly switch circumstance and players) over and over and over again. I don't expect anything else this time either. I don't think they should have EVER reunited over the past two years if the end result was only going to be the same story so quickly after the reunion. The audience is sick of the exact same stuff with no variation. -- Cathy, 04:26:15 07/10/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> I never thought I would say this just three years ago, but I honestly wish T&B's romantic relationship is dead forever. Its been buried so far into the ground that its not even fun to watch anymore. T&B have gone way beyond their expiration date, and now its just foul. If tptb wanted me to feel this way, then they succeeded. -- sparklebarbie, 05:31:28 07/10/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Definitely the writers, in their refusal to write a new angle for T&B as a couple, have outright killed their appeal. Even as a T&B fan I can tell you I am not up for the same story that I just watched for 2 years. It's the SAME story! It's almost unbelievable that they are going to tell the same exact crap THIS SOON after the reunion! -- Cathy, 07:23:47 07/10/08 Thu

When Kassie said in her post that just because T&B have decided to divorce does not mean there won't be some "great" T&B scenes, my honest reaction (and remember, I'm a T&B fan) was dread. Why? Because I know exactly what these scenes will consist of. I just watched them non-stop for 2 years. They will consist of T&B screaming and insulting each other at the top of their lungs. Blair telling Todd she hates him, Todd telling Blair she's a bitch and a slut. Both telilng the other to leave them alone and then in their actions, showing (like Blair did the other day when she showed at his house) that they cannot leave each other alone.

I can't stand John and do not want Blair paired with him, but aside from that, I already know her relationship with him will be a sham - just like her relationship with Spencer was a sham, her relationship with Sam was a sham, her relationship with Cris was a sham. I also know that Todd will throw a public fit when he finds out John and Blair are together. I know that at some point, T&B will have anger sex, after which they will tell each other they still hate each other.

I am not up for another 2 years of this. I honestly thought that THIS TIME, the writers would make an effort to show T&B in a new light -- either as a team fighting a common enemy, on some kind of adventure, or, even a different angle on their breakup - like some medical reason that they'd be torn apart. In other words, something DIFFERENT! What a fool I was to even hope for this.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> The simple truth is that the "T&B Dance" is very effective for the show. TPTB know how popular & beloved TnB are as a couple/family and characters, so they know via the tumultuous T&B history that the fans stick with them for better or worse. If the show needs to be shaken up to rally viewer response, they put the "T&B Rollercoaster Ride/Mating Dance" back into action. Believe me, I wish they would pick on someone else for a change, but I am a T&Ber 4 LIFE & I do LOVE the ride, so I am here for better or worse--just like T&B!!! -- LH, 18:12:08 07/12/08 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Yesterday was all Todd, Todd, Todd. He seriously is a 5 year old trapped in 40 year old body. He did not seem to give a crap about Starr. It was all how could you do this to me garbage. Its really sad that John seemed more concern for Starr than her own father. I really wish Blair sicced Princess David Vickers on him. -- sparklebarbie, 04:53:13 07/10/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Todd doesn't even love himself. He does look out for number one, but that's a natural instinct. -- Lafaux, 05:36:20 07/10/08 Thu

I'm not sold on Blair and John yet. Somehow Blair always gets the short end of the stick. However, I will remain open to them because I do like their growing friendship.


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[> [> [> [> [> I'm not sold on John and Blair either (yeah it's the TNB in my veins) because I find John too passive and laid back. Blair right now is too on the reacting side instead of the take charge mode. I miss that. Also, I just don't buy her not wanting her grandchild. No way.NT -- leo5, 12:38:35 07/10/08 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I know what you mean about T&B in your veins, Leo. It's almost a way of life!! I adore them. As for this John/Blair stuff, they need to stay strictly platonic friends. Anything else would be a sham & as sickening to watch as Todd wooing his one-time rape victim. SPARE ME!!! -- LH, 18:17:23 07/12/08 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> My response was not Pro-John and Blair. It's in opposition of Todd, the self-loathing slug. -- Lafaux, 07:25:16 07/13/08 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Awww, even Todd "the slug" has some reedeming & endearing features....Although at the moment, they're a bit limited. -- LH, 03:46:33 07/14/08 Mon


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